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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Updated 2/2015 by @Inquisitive; with more current information. MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $511, MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $532Mufflers / Silencers are expensive and offer the least bang for buck when compared with the HP gains to costs of (from highest to lowest) N2O, BT plus MAP, TP / RP, WMI, SRI / TIP, DP, Camshaft, IC, PNP, EM and IM. Having said that, a straight muffler / silencer delete is the least chosen option below. However, more members have deleted their resonators than have purchased ABEs or the majority of CBEs (barring the top two). CBE and ABE are mainly about the sound and partially the looks (4” Tips?). If you do not have a lot of HP, perhaps you can bluff your way with loudness. For guidance, decide upon a fast cat or not depending upon your emissions inspections and choose either a TP / RP (cat-2 delete) or DP (cat-1 delete) first for more power. That will provide a lower frequency tone, which is a bit louder. If you didn’t purchase a Long / Full DP with fast cat, then you need to decide on a second cat (cat-2) delete via a Test / Race / Track Pipe, which also adds sound level volume and adds more power through less exhaust restriction. “The increased exhaust flow will move the detonation threshold up and creates enough VE to allow for slightly higher boost targets.” (Cobb) However, running completely cat-less can create severe boost spikes as well as over boost conditions. Do not restrict your future BT decisions by going less than 3” if you decide to continue with a CBE with resonator delete. You must decide on your drone tolerance level, which is why the above progression is proposed. Exhausting Cat-back Exhaust (CBE) (from fast cat to back of vehicle) Axle-back Exhaust (ABE) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Cat-back Exhaust (CBE) (from fast cat to back of vehicle) Ultimate Racing MS3 Gen1 CBE 4” Single Angle Cut 4” Rolled Angle Cut 4” Titanium Tip MS3 Gen2 CBE 1.41 HP, 2.8 Torque, 3” 304 SS, 4” tips, 3/8” flanges, TIG welded, 26 lbs v 42 lbs stock Available from: MS3 Gen1 Ultimate Racing MS3 Gen1 MS3 Gen2 Ultimate Racing MS3 Gen2 MS6 (Not found) MS3 Gen1 (Yes) CBE $550, Resonated +$100, Tips: polished straight, angle, angle rolled or +$75 angle Titanium; Gasket $18 MS3 Gen2 (Yes) TBE $1,195 Catless or +$100 Ceramic Core or +$150 Metal Substrate Core, +$50 V2 DP, +$25 Wideband Bung, +$80 Resonated TP or +$100 Ceramic Core TP or +$150 Ceramic Core TP, +$100 Resonator, Tips: 4” straight, angle, +$50 rolled angle or +$145 Titanium angle; CBE $750 Tips: 4” straight, angle, rolled angle or +$145 Titanium angle; +$100 Resonated or +$100 Ceramic Core or +$150 Ceramic Core; +$18 Gasket Muffler $475 Tips: 4” straight, angle, rolled angle or +$145 Titanium angle; +$18 Gasket CorkSport MS6 Power Series MS6 Gen1 TBE MS3 Gen1 CBE MS3 Gen1 TBE MS3 Gen2 CBE MS3 Gen2 Single Exit 21%: 80mm pipes, high flow silencer / muffler or 100mm single exit exhaust saving 22 lbs, 2 year warranty, ovaled 80mm tips Available from: MS6 CorkSport MS6 MS3 Gen1 CorkSport MS3 Gen1 MS3 Gen2 CorkSport MS3 Gen2 MS6 (Yes) Power Series $699.99; TBE $1,217.99 Resonated RP or +$90 High Flow Cat MS3 Gen1 (Yes) Power Series CBE $449.99; TBE $807.99 MS3 Gen2 (Yes) TBE $1,197.99; CBE $749.99; ABE $450.99; Single Exit $549.99 Resonator Delete See TP / RP in: http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...-thread-99627/ CP-E MS6 Austenite MS6 Single CBE MS3 Gen1 Nexus MS3 Gen2 Triton MS3 Gen2 Tips 3” SS, dual resonators, dual 4” tips Available from: MS6 CP-E MS6 MS3 Gen1 CP-E MS3 Gen1 MS3 Gen2 CP-E MS3 Gen2 MS6 (Yes) Austenite $1,061.75; Single CBE $726.90 +$100 Resonator; Stock or 3” DP MS3 Gen1 (Yes) Nexus $720.51 Tips: Polished, Titan, +$100 Black Chrome MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Triton $882.52 Tips: Standard, Polished or +$50 Black; +$150 12” Oval Muffler Magnaflow Dual Split Rear Exit CBE MS6 CBE MS3 Gen2 CBE 2.5" (might actually be 2¼” at restriction) pipe; 4" tips, mandrel bent piping and a lifetime MagnaFlow warranty WARNING: may not align well with UR RP / TP (leaks, carbon build-up - rfinkle2) Available from: MS6 Magnaflow MS6 MS3 Gen2 Magnaflow MS3 Gen2 MS6 (Yes) $716.95, MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $717.95 OBX MS3 Gen1 MS3 Gen2 T-304 SS, lifetime warranty of factory defects, CNC machined flanges, DUAL-TIG Available from: MS3 Gen1 OBX CBE MS3 Gen1 MS3 Gen2 CNT MS3 Gen1 MS3 Gen2 Racing 76mm CBE: 3” 304 SS, 4” blue or silver tips, gaskets and hardware included, 4 - 6 weeks to manufacture Available from: CNT MS3 MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) Blue Tip $369, Silver Tip $359, MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Blue Tips $550, Silver Tips $499 Cobb MS3 Gen 1 CBE MS3 Gen 1 TBE MS3 Gen 2 CBE MS3 Gen 2 TBE 3" pipe; 84 dB conforms to California’s SAE J1169's 95 dB noise level limit; T304 SS Available from: MS3 Gen1 Cobb MS3 Gen1 MS3 Gen2 Cobb MS3 Gen2 MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) CBE $725, TBE $1375; MS3 Gen2 (Yes) CBE $895, TBE $1,475 Speed Daddy (eBay) 10 - 20 HP, 3” T-304 SS pipes, mandrel bends, TIG welded, CNC machined, Tips 4.5”, gaskets and hardware included Available from: Speed Daddy (eBay) MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $348.99 Racing Beat Power Pulse MS3 Gen1 Twin-Tip MS3 Gen2 3” 304 SS utilizes all stock hangers and mounting brackets to ensure a secure fitment, cast SS flanges are used to mate each component section and incorporates a Mazda OEM-style O-ring crush gasket for superior sealing WARNING: many posts of poor customer service Available from: MS3 Gen1 Racing Beat MS3 Gen1 MS3 Gen2 Racing Beat MS3 Gen2 MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $565 4” Single or Twin Tip, MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $791 XForce 3” Available from: XForce TBE MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Australian$1,600 TBE; Australian$880 CBE ARK Performance DT-S Exhaust System Info: http://www.arkperformance.com/ 10 HP, 9 torque, provides the perfect combination of sound, style and performance, 3” mirror polished T304 SS, mandrel bends, TIG welded, no silencer, 72 dB @ 3000 RPMS, 4.5” tip finishes such as polished, burnt and “tecno”, installation time: 40 minutes claimed Available from: ARK Performance DT-S CBE MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $1,087.20 GReddy Racing CBE MS3 Gen1 RS MS3 Gen1 TiC MS3 Gen2 SP Elite MS3 Gen2 Supreme SP Info: http://www.greddy.com/products/ 80mm unpolished SS pipe; 4" titanium tips, dual polished SS mufflers / silencers, not available - replaced with SP Elite: 70mm, single resonator, no muffler / silencer, sound level 79db, 47 lbs Available from: MS3 Gen1 Ti-C GReddy Racing Ti-C MS3 Gen2 SP Elite GReddy Racing SP Elite MS3 Gen2 SP GReddy Racing Supreme SP MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) RS (Racing Sport) Exhaust $?, $699 TI-C; MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $699 TI-C (single); $1,135.25 SP Elite and $? Supreme SP Exhaust TurboXS Cat-Back or Stealthback Exhaust System 3” T-304 SS, mandrel bent, CNC flanges, dual resonated, 5” slash cut tip Available from: TurboXS CBE MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $599, MS3 Gen2 (Not found) Vibrant Downpipe-Back (CBE) Exhaust System 20 HP, 25 ft. lbs. at 4500 RPMs, 3” SS, CNC, mandrel bent, unrestricted exhaust flow, two straight-thru StreetPower oval mufflers and resonators, 4” angle cut exhaust tip Available from: Vibrant Downpipe-Back (CBE) Exhaust System MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $665.95, MS3 Gen2 (Not found) HKS Hi-power Exhaust System Hasegawa, Kitagawa, and Sigma Info: http://www.hksusa.com/ 3”, mandrel bent, SS muffler, O2 bung Available from: HKS Hi-power CBE MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $514.95, MS3 Gen2 (Not found) ETS CBE Extreme Turbo Systems Available from: ETS CBE MS6 (Yes) $1,018.95, MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) GHL CBE MS6 MS3 Gen1 3”, SS, 4” double wall tip Available from: MS6 GHL CBE MS6 MS3 Gen1 GHL CBE MS3 Gen1 MS6 (Yes) $938.95, MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $759.95, MS3 Gen2 (Not found) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Axle-back Exhaust (ABE) CorkSport ABE silencer / muffler delete, mandrel bent, TIG welded 80mm corrosion-resistant T304 SS polished piping for a smooth flow and clean solid connections with 100mm SS tips, two-year warranty Available from: CorkSport ABE MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $450.99 Ultimate Racing Performance Muffler 304 SS piping, dual high-flow (straight through) polished SS silencers / mufflers, 4” tips (options: single wall, rolled, titanium), TIG welded, upgradeable to CBE Available from: Ultimate Racing Performance Muffler MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $465 HKS Legamax Axle-back Hasegawa, Kitagawa, and Sigma Info: http://www.hksusa.com/ SUS304 SS, 65 mm (2.55”), 2 110 mm tips Available from: HKS Legamax ABE MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Legamax $995.95 Borla Axleback 2¾" pipe; T304 SS premium austenitic stainless steel, superior to T-400 series; 5" tips, straight-through to unleash hidden horsepower. Increased exhaust velocity adds power, fuel economy, distinctive BORLA Sound of Power, mandrel bends, computer-controlled CNC, Million-Mile Warranty Available from: Borla ABE MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $772.99 AutoExe ABE Premium Muffler Exhaust Chamber Available from: Axela BK3P AutoExe BK3P Tail Muffler Axela BK3FW AutoExe BK3FW Tail Muffler MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $486.81 to 550.31 Axela BK3P Muffler; $599.70 Axela BK3FW Muffler Last edited by Raider; 03-05-2015 at 06:09 AM. |
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