OFFICIAL WEIGHT REDUCTION THREAD (MS6)

[qtrmile beast]

I this thread i just want proven input of weights on the car aftermarket and stock. When you post your findings i will add it to the first post so that it will all be in one place. Notice this is directed at the speed6. If you want i can make a speed3 thread as well...

ENJOY

(AFTERMARKET)

Carbon fiber hood vented (ms6) 16-18lbs( according to street unit this included vent and ducting)
Carbon fiber hood non vented (ms6) should be slightly less than the vented one.
Cob dual catback (ms6) 28lbs (thanks amp)
If you really want to get crazy with lightweight Racing Lug Nuts from Upgrade Motoring
ATP turbo gt3071 and 76 turbo and housing with internal gate 18lbs (GT3071R Turbo assembly with internal wastegate (Not Kit) for Mazdaspeed6 manifold (Now Shipping!) : atpturbo.com)
ATP turbo kit 3071/76 38lbs (http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant...Category_Code=)
ATP gt35r with housing 20 lbs (http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant...Category_Code=)
BSD and PTP windage tray 1/2lb (thanks amp)
utima battery 43.8lbs Optima Dual Post 750 CCA Deep Cycle Battery (Group Size-D34/78) - INSSC34DU
CPE FMIC with all the piping 16-17lbs (thanks amp)
Act pressure plate 11lbs(thanks steve)
Act flywheel 16lbs. (thanks steve)
Act 6 puck disc 4lbs (thanks steve)
1 gallon of methanol (6.6lbs per gal)
WikiAnswers - How much does a ... methanol weigh
1 gallon of unleaded gas 6lbs
WikiAnswers - How much does un... gasoline weigh
BC Coilovers 45lbs a set
Endliks 2lbs for 2
Brembo brake kit 4.6lbs per caliper w/ pads http://www.hotwheels.com.sg/products...%20weights.htm
brembo big brake rotor approx. 8lbs http://www.hotwheels.com.sg/products...%20weights.htm
AWR passenger side mount (speed6) 5.0 lbs
H&R Coilovers shipping Weight: 85.0 lbs. http://mudflaps.com/i-9949336-hr-292...l-over-22.html
(FACTORY)

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Got this from a SPEED3 owner these weights apply to the speed3 and may not be the same on the speed6.
Front Seat with all hardware 41.5lbs
Rear Seat assembly (with hardware and lower seatbelts) 48lbs
Rear tray assembly (plastic, styrofoam, rear floor with tools) 19.5lbs
Spare Tire 32.5lbs
Rear cargo tray cover 4.5lbs
Jack 4.5lbs
Floormats 4.5lbs

Thanks goes out to jdeves
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Hood ducting 4-5lbs (thanks amp)
Ducting on grill and lower bumper 2-3lbs (thanks amp)
Heat shields about 1lb (thanks amp)
Factory top mount, cover, cold pipe, hoses and bracket 13lbs (thanks amp)
Factory mazdaspeed rim 23.5 lbs ea
Factory bridestone RE050 24lbs
Balance Shaft 16-17lbs (thanks amp)
factory hood (ms6) 40 lbs (according to street unit this included vent and ducting )
Stock cat back (ms6) 46lbs(thanks amp)
SPARE TIRE 42 lbs (thanks stealth)
SPEED6 subframe 65lbs (thanks superskater)
SPEED6 tranny 150 lbs..
Factory caliper 15 lbs per caliper only (compaired to brembos at 12.6lbs with the rotors!!!)
Crank: 45lbs
Oil Pan: 11.6lbs
Bare short block: 60lbs
Both cams w/timing gears 11.4lbs
1st gen valve cover: 7.4 lbs
Complete head (minus cams and VC): 35lbs
Front
struts + springs + dust boots + bump stops -- 25.6 lbs
springs only -- 14.4 lbs

Rear
shocks -- 8.2 lbs
springs with rubber seats -- 10.6 lbs
springs only -- 9.2 lbs

Thanks goes out to Rhoadblock...

Washer fluid reservoir (full): 12 lbs
heater core/evaporator coil: 11 lbs
a/c fan housing/blower/motor & ducts: 9 lbs
a/c lines: 4 lbs
a/c radiator (condeser) coil: 4 lbs
CP-E single exit CBE with only 14" resonator: 22 lbs
Rubber exhaust hangers: 2 lbs
under car exhaust heat shield (muffer & midpipe): 6 lbs
Driver (steering wheel) airbag: 2.5 lbs
Front passenger airbags: 5 lbs
Side curtain airbags (each): 2.5 lbs/each
Metal faux tips: 1 lb/each
Rear door panels: 10 lbs/each
Rear seat cushion: 10 lbs
Trunk lid liner: 2 lbs
Trunk liners: 1 lb/each
Trunk floor board cover: 7 lbs
MS6 Floor mats: 7 lbs
Rear seat back driver side section: 25 lbs
Rear seat back pass. side section: 15 lbs
Rear seat side cushions: 3 lbs/each
Rear deck w/ seat belt modules: 11 lbs
Door speakers (polk audio 6.5s): 2.5 lbs/each


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Quotes from his thread linked below..

Code Monkey goes full retard racecar mode!!!!
Courtesy of CODE MONKEY..

The total weight reduction is 11 lbs per door:

5.5 outer trim
1.8 motor & regulator
1.8 speaker
1.9 inner trim

MS6 driver seat with bracket weights 58 lbs and the passenger seat with bracket weights 44.2 lbs.
Ok, the SOUND DEADNING is gone with the exception of those two thin stripes. For the record, the weight was 13 lbs.
the dash was a bitch, I brought the whale back home, she is 21.4 lbs! The passenger air bag is 4.4 lbs and the driver (steering wheel) airbag is 2.8 lbs.

These weight have not been confirmed as of yet
front crash bar (30 lbs), rear crash bar (26 lbs), BSD (15 lbs), and air conditioning (28 lbs)

Headliner, 6.8
Carpet, 8.4
Sound deadening, 13

FRONT
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Floor mats, 4
Driver seat (incl. bracket), 58
Passenger seat (incl. bracket), 44.2
Both seat belts, 5.6
Amplifier, 4
Passenger door panel with speaker, 8.4
Plastic parts (A+B pillars, scuff plates, etc), 8.7
Handles + visors + headliner lights, 4
Down pipe (1st + 2nd cat), 23
Battery + battery tray, 38.4
Steering wheel airbag, 2.8
Passenger airbag, 4.4
Dashboard (incl. glove box and top box), 21.4

REAR
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Spare tire, 35.2
Jack, 6.2
Trunk liners + floor liner, 11.6
Floor mats, 2
Seats, 56.2
Deck + subwoofer + C pillars, 9.4
Seat belts, 8.6
Curtain (side) airbags, 5.8
Door panels (both, include speakers), 13.6

Pulled the AC system today.
The inside the cabin A/C unit is 17.2 lbs (that includes all the plastic things, and blower, heater core, etc).
The condenser and the refrigerant lines in the engine bay are 7.6 lbs.
Total is 24.8 lbs.
Anyone knows how heavy the AC compressor is?
Assuming the AC compressor is about 20 lbs, the whole AC system is about 45 lbs, not a huge amount, but respectable for weight reduction and all the shit comes from the front!

[saitek]

Good start. There is a lot of weight that can be removed from both 6 and 3. I have a bunch of measurements I took over winter, I'll have to dig them out and post it here. Measured clutch, flywheel, pads, rotors, stock/kw shocks, springs, sway bars, etc.

Planning on taking out a few more things to drop the weight another 100lbs or so. Still have stock seats, a/c, stereo stuff and heavy ms cbe.

Here is the car as it sits with a bit more than 1/4 fuel and without driver, corner balanced it as best I can. With driver is still at 50.0% after a bit of adjustment. I was surprised how little I had to do when I put on adjustable endlinks.

[G Sp33dy]

thx for gathering the info!

[Stealth01]

I weighed my spare tire awhile back. Came to 42 lbs. I think ours is different than the MS3 on due to AWD.

[jroc]

Hory shit a lot of info got lost.

/redundant statement of the month.

[Tomas]

Originally Posted by saitek Good start. There is a lot of weight that can be removed from both 6 and 3. I have a bunch of measurements I took over winter, I'll have to dig them out and post it here. Measured clutch, flywheel, pads, rotors, stock/kw shocks, springs, sway bars, etc. Planning on taking out a few more things to drop the weight another 100lbs or so. Still have stock seats, a/c, stereo stuff and heavy ms cbe. Here is the car as it sits with a bit more than 1/4 fuel and without driver, corner balanced it as best I can. With driver is still at 50.0% after a bit of adjustment. I was surprised how little I had to do when I put on adjustable endlinks.

So the picture of the scale showing 49.9% is with a driver? How do you shift weight sideways in the car to get it corner balanced?
That's a lot of weight on the front compared to back. Seems like you know about suspension. What set up are you running? springs, shocks, sway bars? I also dont get how you corner balance weight with adjustable end links.

[qtrmile beast]

TTT i am going to be adding alot of info to this since alot got lost after the crash....STAY TUNED..

[qtrmile beast]

Ok heres a thread that i found on lighten brakes and the improvement it made..


i know that it is an old thread ...
Buschur Racing dyno testing brake rotors? - evolutionm.net

[Mistersix]

Nice work on this. Good idea for a useful thread.

[qtrmile beast]

Originally Posted by Stealth01 I weighed my spare tire awhile back. Came to 42 lbs. I think ours is different than the MS3 on due to AWD.

The ms3 weighs about 32 lbs according to info i got from another speed3 owner..

UPDATE i have added a few things that i have found the weight on.....

[superskaterxes]

Ill try and remember to weigh all my interrior tomm when I gut her

[qtrmile beast]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes Ill try and remember to weigh all my interrior tomm when I gut her

I will be doing then when we get to the track friday. Also everyone needs to know that his weights are from leather and power heated seats and mine are from the sport version. Thanks for taking the time to weigh everything skater!!! Also skater please post the weight of your act clutch kit and the difference between yours and the one that i have if you don't mind...

[superskaterxes]

My kit is 5 lbs heavier because of the street light fw

[RhoadBlock]

Here's all the crap I weighed when I did my initial gutting of the car:

Washer fluid reservoir (full): 12 lbs
heater core/evaporator coil: 11 lbs
a/c fan housing/blower/motor & ducts: 9 lbs
a/c lines: 4 lbs
a/c radiator (condeser) coil: 4 lbs
CP-E single exit CBE with only 14" resonator: 22 lbs
Rubber exhaust hangers: 2 lbs
under car exhaust heat shield (muffer & midpipe): 6 lbs
Driver (steering wheel) airbag: 2.5 lbs
Front passenger airbags: 5 lbs
Side curtain airbags (each): 2.5 lbs/each
Metal faux tips: 1 lb/each
Rear door panels: 10 lbs/each
Rear seat cushion: 10 lbs
Trunk lid liner: 2 lbs
Trunk liners: 1 lb/each
Trunk floor board cover: 7 lbs
MS6 Floor mats: 7 lbs
Rear seat back driver side section: 25 lbs
Rear seat back pass. side section: 15 lbs
Rear seat side cushions: 3 lbs/each
Rear deck w/ seat belt modules: 11 lbs
Door speakers (polk audio 6.5s): 2.5 lbs/each

I think I have the front and rear bumper rebars too. I'll have to weigh them. I pulled the rear off and I have the front off right now from when I pulled the motor.

Planning on cutting more weight out too. Trying to get to just under 3k lbs with me in it.

[Jh8909]

Great info here, so for someone who daily's their 6, is the trunk linings, floormats, and spare tire really the most acceptable items to have removed? Because i dont have tint (yet) and i ride with 3 or 4 people in the car on occasion so removing the rear seats are kind of out of the question for me right now. But i do agree this car is damn heavy from stock

[qtrmile beast]

Originally Posted by RhoadBlock Here's all the crap I weighed when I did my initial gutting of the car: Washer fluid reservoir (full): 12 lbs heater core/evaporator coil: 11 lbs a/c fan housing/blower/motor & ducts: 9 lbs a/c lines: 4 lbs a/c radiator (condeser) coil: 4 lbs CP-E single exit CBE with only 14" resonator: 22 lbs Rubber exhaust hangers: 2 lbs under car exhaust heat shield (muffer & midpipe): 6 lbs Driver (steering wheel) airbag: 2.5 lbs Front passenger airbags: 5 lbs Side curtain airbags (each): 2.5 lbs/each Metal faux tips: 1 lb/each Rear door panels: 10 lbs/each Rear seat cushion: 10 lbs Trunk lid liner: 2 lbs Trunk liners: 1 lb/each Trunk floor board cover: 7 lbs MS6 Floor mats: 7 lbs Rear seat back driver side section: 25 lbs Rear seat back pass. side section: 15 lbs Rear seat side cushions: 3 lbs/each Rear deck w/ seat belt modules: 11 lbs Door speakers (polk audio 6.5s): 2.5 lbs/each I think I have the front and rear bumper rebars too. I'll have to weigh them. I pulled the rear off and I have the front off right now from when I pulled the motor. Planning on cutting more weight out too. Trying to get to just under 3k lbs with me in it.

Here is 67-75lbs off my car and then what ever the front seat weighs will get me closer to my 3200 i want to be at on friday!!! So i am at 3375 now i just need 175 more!!

Originally Posted by Jh8909 Great info here, so for someone who daily's their 6, is the trunk linings, floormats, and spare tire really the most acceptable items to have removed? Because i dont have tint (yet) and i ride with 3 or 4 people in the car on occasion so removing the rear seats are kind of out of the question for me right now. But i do agree this car is damn heavy from stock

i dont see why not as that is how i ride.... As long as you have the spare and jack in there for flats your good unless you dont mind waiting for AAA... then you can save about 70lbs everyday driving.

[JMEngineer]

Anyone know the weight of the stock MS6 GT seats?

[qtrmile beast]

Originally Posted by JMEngineer Anyone know the weight of the stock MS6 GT seats?

I think superskater will let you know that soon!!!

[RichieRichness]

Great thread Charles! GL on Friday...Please for the love of god someone take video of Super vs Qtrmile!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[qtrmile beast]

Originally Posted by RichieRichness Please for the love of god someone take video of Super vs Qtrmile!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This will be an EPIC battle between the 2 fastest speed6s in the US, may the best speed win!!!! Hey super this is why i wanted to leave a few bolts out of your tranny so i can get that upper hand advantage!!! LOL

[forcedinduktion]

Anyone gonna cut into the body

[Docnox]

Originally Posted by forcedinduktion Anyone gonna cut into the body

I cut about 10lbs off my crash bar

[RichieRichness]

Ant, put the wheels from your 3 on your 6...I know it's not much saved weight but everything helps. I also suggesting taking a laxative.

[qtrmile beast]

We were supposed to weigh them when i was there to help him with the tranny but we forgot... i think he said that the tires on the stock wheels are stickier than the 3 wheels..

[superskaterxes]

no my 3 wheels have DWS's which are WAY better then the shitty V12's i have on the 6.

weight isent keeping me from 11's, its just keeping me from burying them lol

[mason]

ive been thinking about weight reduction as well. i have a 3. what if i could get it down to say 2700, i think that would be awesome!

[qtrmile beast]

Originally Posted by mason ive been thinking about weight reduction as well. i have a 3. what if i could get it down to say 2700, i think that would be awesome!

you can come close..... fully stripped other than drivers seat 2970lbs i am not sure if we took everything we could out of it but we took a lot...

[mason]

did you take off the door panels ect. also? one day id like to get down to 2600 pounds.

never done that befor, im thinking would have to totally strip the car, seats, carpet, door panels ect. and see what you can take out, cut out, and put back the stuff you want. and get under car and remove anything thats not totally nessesary. but then again it might not be possible without major changes. just brain storming

[qtrmile beast]

Originally Posted by mason did you take off the door panels ect. also? one day id like to get down to 2600 pounds. never done that befor, im thinking would have to totally strip the car, seats, carpet, door panels ect. and see what you can take out, cut out, and put back the stuff you want. and get under car and remove anything thats not totally nessesary. but then again it might not be possible without major changes. just brain storming

no we didnt take the door panels out but i think you will have a pretty hard time getting down to 2600 lbs. That is about 300lbs off what we did. unless you go with lexan windows no door panels, CF hood and doors you might get close.... Those were 18lb wheels and the lightest exhaust you can get unless you delete the exhaust all together. One thing that was heavy on there was the medevil manifold that we used..

[TWOptSL0W]

Originally Posted by qtrmile beast One thing that was heavy on there was the medevil manifold that we used..

lolz sorry

[mason]

yeah, my car is still a lil new to be gutting the hell out of it. but i plan on keeping it so in the future im going to play with weight reduction. imagine pushing 500 WHP on a 2600- 2700 pound car.

[qtrmile beast]

Originally Posted by mason yeah, my car is still a lil new to be gutting the hell out of it. but i plan on keeping it so in the future im going to play with weight reduction. imagine pushing 500 WHP on a 2600- 2700 pound car.

well we had 409 with 2950........... good luck getting traction

[Jh8909]

old thread I know but I want to spark it up again.

What lightweight batteries are you lightweight guys running? I've heard braille is the best, next is odyssey but if you don't drive them for a day you have to leave them on a trickle charger or something?

[Colin1337]

posting for later.

I pretty much gutted my trunk, really want to relocate my battery back there to keep the weight ratio somewhat balanced.

[qtrmile beast]

Originally Posted by Jh8909 old thread I know but I want to spark it up again. What lightweight batteries are you lightweight guys running? I've heard braille is the best, next is odyssey but if you don't drive them for a day you have to leave them on a trickle charger or something?

Those are pretty good batteries but i do think that you will need to have the batteries consistently charged if left for long period of time. I myself am running the optima battery in my car. I myself dont think its worth it for the possiblilty of coming outside and my car wont start.

I think there are other thing that could be done that could loose those lbs and not have the same ill effect. I would just put the battery in the trunk and even the weight out. I think those batteries are about maybe 10lbs lighter... Your floor mats are pretty close to that!!

[RichieRichness]

Charles, I need light weight rims/tires. Do you have a set for sale or do you recommend anything. I'm trying to stay under 40 lbs for tire+rim.

[Downmented]

@Captain KR; Here is your weight reduction thread.

Also, what is the lightest anyone has gotten their MS6 down to so far? There has got to be some other weight reduction techniques that we have not found yet.

[RichieRichness]

Originally Posted by Downmented @Captain KR; Here is your weight reduction thread. Also, what is the lightest anyone has gotten their MS6 down to so far? There has got to be some other weight reduction techniques that we have not found yet.

@h.h.sk1nny got his below 3200....somehow

[superskaterxes]

this past time at the track i was down to 3275 which is the lightest i have ever been.

you could really go crazy with it if you wanted but its not worth it to me.

[Downmented]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes this past time at the track i was down to 3275 which is the lightest i have ever been. you could really go crazy with it if you wanted but its not worth it to me.

ITS NOT WORTH IT TO YOU??????? I GUESS 10'S ARENT WORTH IT TO YOU EITHER ARE THEY MR SUPERSKATER