holset hx35?

[Buildabong]

Originally Posted by austin102085 they used a holset but i duno how much diff they are just thought i would post it up Txmica's summer project (now with 50% moar videos! happy 4/1!) i might depends on price... im looking into a couple diff options now myself

lol austin thats my friends old mazda3 2.3 hatch... that turbo sucked donkey dick on his car.. we made 200whp on that slut, but then that was 6psi on a fully built motor, with stock tranny. and let me tell u.. that fucker took FOREVER to spool up!!

[austin102085]

Originally Posted by Steevo Its an 8 blade HX35. It has a 56 mm compressor wheel and flows 52 lbs/min. It has a T3 12 cm twin scroll exhaust housing. Using the stock exhaust housing and an open T3 manifold with the 2.3 liter motor I would bet it should hit 20 psi by around 3k-3.3k rpm. Should make for a very good alternative to the GT3076. Its a journal bearing and is oil cooled only. No water ports. The reason the compressor wheel looks so small is because the sheer size of the compressor housing itself. Holsets are known to have massive compressor housings. This housing is easily larger than a T67 housing, yet has a smaller wheel in it. I don't know why Holset does this. Lol. This should make for a very interesting setup on fagwagons car. Him and I have been going back and forth (hes my roommate) about what to do about the downpipe and exhaust manifold and we havn't really figured it out yet. I'm hoping that by this summer we can have this in and have the fuel system installed that we've dreamed up and have a full write up (plus pictures) on how to make big power with these cars without spending $6k.

yea im also going with a holset but im using the first version of the hx35 which is the h1c. but i will be using the hx35 turbine housing from BEP so it should yeild the same power

Originally Posted by Buildabong lol austin thats my friends old mazda3 2.3 hatch... that turbo sucked donkey dick on his car.. we made 200whp on that slut, but then that was 6psi on a fully built motor, with stock tranny. and let me tell u.. that fucker took FOREVER to spool up!!

so i went back and looked at the thread. what housing was he useing its looks alot bigger than the one of the hx35. and also do you know if it was the single port or the double port housing....... but hey its like 350-400 on the turbo setup so if it sucks ass i can sell it and im not out 1600-1700 $$ like fagwagen sid budget build... i spent all my $$$ on my build so now im on a budget turbo. dont get me wrong if i could find a gt30 for a great price i would be on it but come on 1500 is a lil high for me. and hey if this works out then im sure lots of other people would jump on it...

[Buildabong]

lol it came off a dodge cummings turbo lol. the og owner of that turbo said he put 400 down on it but we couldnt break 200 lol

[austin102085]

Originally Posted by Buildabong lol it came off a dodge cummings turbo lol. the og owner of that turbo said he put 400 down on it but we couldnt break 200 lol

ive been doing alot of reading on these turbos and on other 4cl they spool right around 3-31/2 and make great power. so i guess fagwagon and me need to pioner the new era for mazdaspeed... hahha j/k

[Steevo]

Originally Posted by austin102085 so i went back and looked at the thread. what housing was he useing its looks alot bigger than the one of the hx35. and also do you know if it was the single port or the double port housing..........

Its called twin scroll, or divided runner. But yes, it is a twin scroll housing.

The turbine housing on that Mazda3 looks like a 16-18cm which is huge and will make for a very lazy turbo. For him to better use that turbo he should consider switching out to a much smaller turbine housing. I can't imagine how horrible the spool is with that large housing, that shitty log manifold, and the turbine housing being twin scroll and the manifold isn't. Thats a horribly setup car.

The turbo he's using isn't very big either. Its a small H1C with a 50mm inducer and is probably good for around 400 hp at most, maybe slightly more if you really cranked on it.

Originally Posted by Buildabong lol it came off a dodge cummings turbo lol. the og owner of that turbo said he put 400 down on it but we couldnt break 200 lol

He said he only could push 5-6 psi, so somethings wrong then. Maybe one of his 53 intercooler couplers was blown. Lol. Maybe he was having wastegate problems. I don't know. But that turbo can produce much more cfm than 200 hp worth. He has a problem somewhere else in that car.

[austin102085]

Originally Posted by Steevo Its called twin scroll, or divided runner. But yes, it is a twin scroll housing. The turbine housing on that Mazda3 looks like a 16-18cm which is huge and will make for a very lazy turbo. For him to better use that turbo he should consider switching out to a much smaller turbine housing. I can't imagine how horrible the spool is with that large housing, that shitty log manifold, and the turbine housing being twin scroll and the manifold isn't. Thats a horribly setup car. The turbo he's using isn't very big either. Its a small H1C with a 50mm inducer and is probably good for around 400 hp at most, maybe slightly more if you really cranked on it. He said he only could push 5-6 psi, so somethings wrong then. Maybe one of his 53 intercooler couplers was blown. Lol. Maybe he was having wastegate problems. I don't know. But that turbo can produce much more cfm than 200 hp worth. He has a problem somewhere else in that car.

yea the h1c im using is the bigger 8 blade and the housing is gonna be from ths hx35 and is 12cm not 16-18. and no log mani either hahaha.

[Fagwagon]

Originally Posted by austin102085 yea the h1c im using is the bigger 8 blade and the housing is gonna be from ths hx35 and is 12cm not 16-18. and no log mani either hahaha.

you should just go with the hx35 man theres a lot out there for cheap on the cummins forums...i had i think 5 different ones to choose from.. and i was only looking for about a week.

[austin102085]

theses not much diff from the h1c and the hx35 its just that the h1c is older. i will be useing the same housing as the hx35. and its a good price.. and the housing is not a twin scroll. its just 1

[Buildabong]

Originally Posted by Steevo He said he only could push 5-6 psi, so somethings wrong then. Maybe one of his 53 intercooler couplers was blown. Lol. Maybe he was having wastegate problems. I don't know. But that turbo can produce much more cfm than 200 hp worth. He has a problem somewhere else in that car.

5-6 at high rpm... i know i drove it.. and no he didnt have anything wrong with the wastegate or what not. what he did run into was tuning... haltech didnt work cpe stand back didnt work(mazda 3 kind) and i forgot what other one he tried. but none of them worked right for his car... was weird

[austin102085]

Originally Posted by Buildabong 5-6 at high rpm... i know i drove it.. and no he didnt have anything wrong with the wastegate or what not. what he did run into was tuning... haltech didnt work cpe stand back didnt work(mazda 3 kind) and i forgot what other one he tried. but none of them worked right for his car... was weird

hope it works for me.... spool in the 3000's

[austin102085]

got mine today.

[Fagwagon]

The green machine!

Is that the h1?

Is that the h1?

[phantom3]

Looks like an HY to me... but they all look pretty close

[austin102085]

its an h1c. im going to use a 12cm^2 hx35 bullseye power hot side. have to prolly fab up a new turbo inlet. and a dp for sure. who knows what else.but hey someones gotta try new things. i think me fagwagon and turd burgler will do just fine. jump on the bandwagon while its still creeping along

[madvillain]

Awesome man, congrats. I can't wait to see what you come up with.

[austin102085]

Originally Posted by madvillain Awesome man, congrats. I can't wait to see what you come up with.

so far this is what i have come up with. hope to have it on in the next 2-3 weeks (hahaha i have said that for 2 weeks already.) im taking after cobb and race roots lol. any way just waiting on a little thing called money. so i have the full turbo, 4 inch inlet, will be moding my manifold, oil supply/drain are in works and thats that. just need to figure out how to run the collant lines that i wont be using.

[Fagwagon]

as far as the coolant lines im sure they can be blocked off easily enough...you could put a cork in them lol. Looking good, i will be getting the same inlet for V-day lol my GF knows that car shit is basically all i want. Im thinking about also buying the big maf/shortram intake from cp-e as well ..

[austin102085]

yea i was gonna get the big maf intake but i will wait a while i dont wanna spend to much to fast. as far as the flashes go im also gonna wait on that as well. i am gonna get it in the car get a decent tune on it then get more monies for the rest.

[Fagwagon]

Yah I hear ya I'm going to try and get some work done on mine this weekend hopefully I can figure out everything else I need so I can get it all done.

[turd burglar]

anyone know if cpe would sling me a 4 inch inlet in place of my 3 inch for a few extra bucks?

[austin102085]

???? i just ordered a new one while thereon sale. ill just sell my old cobb to a local guy here that wants it. man but im rethinking this flash business. its alot cheaper than when its on sale. and i wouldnt have to get them all just the main full control. then get the othere latter on down the road..... fuck this car just sucks down money

[turd burglar]

i only ask cuz its the cpe turbo inlet i have. i bought it from su so maybe mark could hook me up. i just hope this turbo works!

[phantom3]

Is there by chance a twin scroll exh. housing with EWG, by holset that would work?

[Fagwagon]

normally they are twin scroll.

[mazdadope]

sweet build you got going on i think its gonna be sick when you get done with it.

[Fagwagon]

looky what i got in the mail today!

[cageyvet]

That inlet is not going to work. The compressor housing is way too big. If you change the manifold to where the compressor housing does not hit the transfer case you will probably screw up the orientation of the inlet. Even if it did work you would need to relocate the ecu from its current location b/c it will smush against inlet.

[Fagwagon]

It will work shhhh....quiet....

[austin102085]

Originally Posted by cageyvet That inlet is not going to work. The compressor housing is way too big. If you change the manifold to where the compressor housing does not hit the transfer case you will probably screw up the orientation of the inlet. Even if it did work you would need to relocate the ecu from its current location b/c it will smush against inlet.

o its gonnawork. im gettin mine done monday and will post results in new thread

[Fagwagon]

Originally Posted by austin102085 o its gonnawork. im gettin mine done monday and will post results in new thread

the shop is doing yours monday? Plz take pics and give me a detailed list on what they used for oil return/oil feed!!!

[austin102085]

yep droping it of manday after noon and they said should take like 2-3 days do prolly thursday or friday. hope....

[turd burglar]

Originally Posted by cageyvet That inlet is not going to work. The compressor housing is way too big. If you change the manifold to where the compressor housing does not hit the transfer case you will probably screw up the orientation of the inlet. Even if it did work you would need to relocate the ecu from its current location b/c it will smush against inlet.

its all clamped together so the hotside will rotate and the inlet is a circle so it can rotate too lol not bein a dick just an observation. plus the cpe inlet is smashed anyways in stock form so it cant be much worse i bet!!!

[Biggu]

cant wait to see more of this, i was going to get a HX35 for my 2jz but its just a bit on the small side for me.

[austin102085]

Originally Posted by Biggu cant wait to see more of this, i was going to get a HX35 for my 2jz but its just a bit on the small side for me.

small side??? this is a big bitch. i duno if its even gonna fit right. will find out today or tomm. .............. please stand by lol

[Fagwagon]

sooo what did they do today?

[austin102085]

Originally Posted by Fagwagon sooo what did they do today?

well ....... fail before it even gets off the ground. first off i droped the turbo and cracked it, then on my way to the shop like 6 codes went off and i lost all oil psi. then as i tryed to pull of the road(coasting) i hit a parked car ...... naw j/k the shop said i couldnt drop it off today cause they didnt have room in there shop to keep my car. i am droping it off tomm mourning........ hahah hope i didnt scare ya things are still looking good.

[turd burglar]

i nearly pooped my drawers at your bad luck at first hahaha

[austin102085]

ok droped car off today.... i talked to the owner (not really a people person) so he didnt have much to say. i will call later today and talk to the guy i usually talk to and get a projected done date. stay tuned some more.....lol

[Fagwagon]

lollol nice try...

on a serious note my slave cylinder fucked out on me last night! Woo

[Steevo]

Originally Posted by phantom3 Is there by chance a twin scroll exh. housing with EWG, by holset that would work?

All Holset turbine housings are twin scroll other than the HY35 I believe. Most have the internal gate setup on them and only a few are made with no provisions for a wastegate. Basically if you plan on using a Holset turbine housing you will have to run a wastegate off the manifold unless you want to try your luck with an internal setup, but people usually don't have the best luck with that. On mine I just welded the internal get shut and ran the gate off the manifold.

Originally Posted by Biggu cant wait to see more of this, i was going to get a HX35 for my 2jz but its just a bit on the small side for me.

Always go for the HX40 and if you're looking for more than 650 then go for the HX50/52/55. Lol.

Originally Posted by austin102085 small side??? this is a big bitch. i duno if its even gonna fit right. will find out today or tomm. .............. please stand by lol

The HX35 is a medium frame turbo in my eyes. The compressor cover is quite large but the inducer/exducer sizes are still similar to that of a GT30R. The 8 blade HX35 flows nearly the same as the 30r so you can expect similar results out of both of the turbos. The 7 blade flows closer to a 60-1/GT35.

Originally Posted by Fagwagon lollol nice try... on a serious note my slave cylinder fucked out on me last night! Woo

Yah it did. Maybe you should figure out what the fuck is locking you out of 3rd gear.