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should i do front and back brakes at the same time? i am buying new good quality blank rotors for the front and ebc greenstuff pads. Probably rotora blanks or centric. What are better? should i do rotors and pads in the back or ne thing at all? any help greatly appreciated
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Get Centric blanks and EBC Redstuff pads.
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arent redstuffs like only for track use... this is my dd and my mountain fun car nothing really more i go to track every once and awhile
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arent redstuffs like only for track use... this is my dd and my mountain fun car nothing really more i go to track every once and awhile
EBC website says track and spirited street driving.
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does anyone have them? hows dusting on them? and hows noise?
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I daily drive with the Redstuffs. Fantastic pads for this car. Lower, lighter dusting and brakes better than OEM.
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ive heard redstuff are good for daily driving as well. i will be getting them when i wear out my stock brakes
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i decided to go with hawk HPS street performance pads have heard nothing bad about them and they are a little easier on the pocket book
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i decided to go with hawk HPS street performance pads have heard nothing bad about them and they are a little easier on the pocket book
They're better than the green stuff.
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cool good i jst received my rotors and brake pads today!!!
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anyone have a bb kit like 1500 dollar one? curious of resiults
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got all my stuffs in .... excited to put it on this friday!!! and some shoes lol
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well i have diff prob i think now... i think my calipers r too tight? like the brakes are always slightly on. did i tighten something too much or is it becuz i have new pads and the thickness of the pad?
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why do you think your brakes are always on? do they constantly squeal? Did you break them in like your supposed too. FYI those pads will make a ton of noise on the street until you warm them up.
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because on a slant in neutral my car doesnt roll ne more.... i think i can hear them a tiny bit too andn i can smeel breaks everytime i stop driving and i havent evn driven it hard yet and yes i burnished them in according to instuctions on HAWK HPS pad box
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did you grease up your calipers and sliders? how many miles on new pads(ive had them smell burnt for about 50-100mi)

im guessing your wearing the pads uneven, by not having enough grease on the calipers though.
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grease wat part of the calipers i greased the 2 lil pins u put through the caliper. what else do u grease?

im thinkin thts its the ebrake i need to adjust. since i put new pads and rotors with way more thickness on front and back i need to adjust so the ebrake releases more then it did before... kinda jst logic i was thinkin but does tht sound right?
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The ebrake should only be an issue if these pads are thicker than new oem pads. jack up the car and find out which wheels your having issues with. Yea those pins need to be really greased up otherwise they bind.
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they were greased very well i think i found out the problem
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when you find it let us know. im sure it will help others in the future.
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are speed 3 and speed 6 rear calipers the same?
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:...: i think i found out the problem
I'd be interested in hearing what you think it was. No idea on the MS3 vs. MS6 tho.
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im not sure i think its either an ebrake adjustment or my right rear caliper is shot.... cuz i twisted tht bitch a shit load and once i got to a point it wasnt going ne farther.
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alright took back off to show some pics with the rubber boot off too see if u guys could help ne with the answer if it is seated all the way... heres some pics the one with the feeler gauges in is about .163" tht is how much space is in the piston other than the head of the piston. Tht is the amount right after the head of the piston( after the part u can turn in slimmer part)
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figured it out yay its all good no heat or stench coming from right rear now and i can easily roll in neutral
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Your fail is amusing. Thank you for posting the progression of it in different threads.

How to bleed ur brakes
calipers mayb too tight?
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...nded-up-61827/
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...caliper-61842/

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i didnt fail i fixed it and made sure i didnt drive it until i did only test drives. first brake job on this car and thx for the criticism i just posted it in diff threads so obviously peps didnt wanna answer in jst one
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i didnt fail i fixed it and made sure i didnt drive it until i did only test drives. first brake job on this car and thx for the criticism i just posted it in diff threads so obviously peps didnt wanna answer in jst one
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i fixed the problem. it was my first brake job on this car. and only reason i posted it in diff threads becuz the orig thread i posted it in no one was answering
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just because people don't answer doesn't mean you should start 4 different threads about it.
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I have power slot rotors with Hawk HPS pads and the improvment is amazing.
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