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 Old 10-17-2015, 10:54 AM   #1
 
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Default BNR-S3 on the CX-7

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I want to share the experience of using BNR S3 Turbo on its CX-7 with automatic transmission, and at the same time to ask your advice.
My current configuration is: BNR-S3, 3 port EBCS, Autoteh HPFP, Inletpipe, Downpipe. As a result, when the tuner finished, I got about 270whp.
The figure in the picture nice, but that joy is over, because even at 100% duty cycle turbine inflates 1 bar excess of 3,000 rpm, further more, but pressed to the seat starts from 3,500-4,000 rpm.
This led to my friends with a simple chip leave me off. My acceleration of 0 to 60 miles per hour is equal to 8 seconds. I think this is a very long time. Adjuster says that nothing can do about it because it is larger and heavier turbine spins ..
However, it is impossible to force faster start BNR-S3 ??
Please tell me what to fix?
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Your mod - "inlet pipe". Is that a full 3'' intake or just the turbo inlet?
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Originally Posted by speed23 View Post
Your mod - "inlet pipe". Is that a full 3'' intake or just the turbo inlet?
Just the turbo inlet
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Your tuner doesn't know what he's doing.
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Who is tuning you? Doesn't sound like it's one of the awesome e-tuners from here on MSF.
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Seems about right for an auto bnr s3 on pump gas...

No idea why you're maxing out fuel though, that's just bad tuning...

Here's a corksport + meth on a cx7 http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru....php?p=2945261
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Originally Posted by SarcasticOne View Post
Seems about right for an auto bnr s3 on pump gas...

No idea why you're maxing out fuel though, that's just bad tuning...

Here's a corksport + meth on a cx7 Seen the light and modding CX7 for more power - Page 6 - Mazdaspeed Forums
I think he means that the turbo is slow to spool even at 100% DC (BCS duty cycle)
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Get a full big intake and have stratified or freaktune tune your car. That will ensure your getting the best out of your mods.
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Who is tuning you? Doesn't sound like it's one of the awesome e-tuners from here on MSF.
Oh no, he's not here MSF. )) He set my car on the road by races with removal of logs.

Originally Posted by SarcasticOne View Post
Seems about right for an auto bnr s3 on pump gas...

No idea why you're maxing out fuel though, that's just bad tuning...

Here's a corksport + meth on a cx7 Seen the light and modding CX7 for more power - Page 6 - Mazdaspeed Forums
Maybe CS Turbo has an early spool?

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I think he means that the turbo is slow to spool even at 100% DC (BCS duty cycle)
Oh yeah, you understood me correctly! Tuner does not restrict the turbine, but it is still too late spool

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Get a full big intake and have stratified or freaktune tune your car. That will ensure your getting the best out of your mods.
Do you think a full 3 "intake will help accelerate the spool?

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Your catback exhaust will be a restriction now that you have a larger turbo.
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Check out post # 20 in this thread:

BNR Stage 3 WGA adjustment

I also think an intake would help.

The CS turbo spools slower than bnr stage 3.

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Thanks to all huge for helps and references! I will try. An interesting subject with the WGA control...
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Like other said, your best bet are breathing mods (better flowing intake, intercooler, exhaust manifold, catback) and a good tune

I didnt check the WGA thread for the BNR S3, but when I had problem with my wastegate (too strong spring), I could easily hit 25psi at 3400rpm in second gear with 1/3 throttle...my scenario is extreme, but the wastegate adjustment could improve your spoolup substantialy
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I think u should get a tune from a msf tuner. I wouldnt trust anyone else tbh
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