Viper 5901 w/ Remote Start Installed!!

[TongMan]

I just got my alarm installed by a local shop dude. It took him 5 hours to do the install. Everything works great! Alarm is working great. Remote start is awesome...the only negative about it is that I can never park in gear anymore...oh well...anyone else got a remote start installed on their Speed3 or Speed6?

[MZRDISI4]

How much was the install labor? I think I want this but without the remotestart.

[TongMan]

$225 for labor

[nerv81]

I used to install alarms/remote starts. I had one in my Spec-V until I accidentally left it in gear one night. Next morning when I started it, I felt the house shake. Come outside and I see the car smashed into the garage. Talk about an epic fail. Congrats, just be careful.

Also, did they bypass the clutch with a relay? Some places get lazy and just jump the wire. Problem with that is your cruise control won't work cause the car always thinks the clutch is being pressed. Good luck and enjoy.

[killa cam]

is it possible to take pics of the install? i have a 5900 brand new in the box, i just havn't had time to install. i wonder where he put all the little boxes and stuff. it's probably worth it to just take it to a shop, but i have a problem trusting other people with my baby

[TongMan]

This guy who did my install have done two previous alarm installs for both my tC and my Si. I have the Viper 5900 installed on the Si and the Viper 771 installed on the tC. The guy bypassed the clutch with a relay for me. I say that if you know how to do the install then install it yourself, but if you don't then go to someone you trust to do the install.

[m4tic]

do MS3/MS6's have an "in-gear" sensor? on my legacy gt, i relay grounded the starter so the car wouldnt start in gear, but out of gear i could start without the clutch

[SSinstaller]

Take it back and tell him to hook up the neutral safety wire.

It is black/orange in pin 1S at the PCM under the hood. If he hooks up the neutral safety wire properly the RS won't even attempt to crank the car unless your in neutral..

[TongMan]

anyone got pics of the neutral safety wire? Do I have to buy a hundred dollar relay for that?

[SSinstaller]

Originally Posted by TongMan anyone got pics of the neutral safety wire? Do I have to buy a hundred dollar relay for that?

You don't need any parts. The alarm already has a neutral safety wire input, but the installer just grounded it--If he connects it to the car's neutral safety wire it will work as DEI actually intended it to.

[TongMan]

cool i will call my installer up and let him know.

Update: So I called up my installer and he said that he did just grounded the alarm's neutral safety input wire. I asked him to connect the neutral safety wire on the alarm to the neutral safety wire on the car's ECU. He said that he could do that, but he needs to know where the car's neutral wire is located. So where is it located?

[xcoldricex]

i have one installed with remote start, i also have it so it will still start if the car is in gear and would like to fix that.... and my factory alarm isn't bypassed, what is the wiring for that?

thanks for the help ssinstaller!

[arcticms3]

I have the 5900, but I did not get the remote start installed because I had no use for it. I did however get the turbo timer hooked up and its a great peace of mind to be able to arm the alarm while the turbo timer is still going.

[TongMan]

my installer is asking me where the cars nuetral safety wire is at and I don't know where it's at.

[SSinstaller]

It's at the ECM under the hood, or he could search for it in the transmission harness.

[MS6 Alan]

I'm strongly considering installing a 5901 on my MS6 in the near future. I'm sick of the 5 foot range on the OEM transmitter.

I'm surprised these shops installed the alarms on a manual trans, especially bypassing the neutral safety switch. About 5 years ago I couldn't find an installer that would touch remote start on a manual, so I did it myself.

Anyone have the MS6 wiring chart? I keep finding diagrams for the M6 but im not sure how much they differ with the advanced keyless system on the MS6.

[labikesrcool]

Originally Posted by TongMan I just got my alarm installed by a local shop dude. It took him 5 hours to do the install. Everything works great! Alarm is working great. Remote start is awesome...the only negative about it is that I can never park in gear anymore...oh well...anyone else got a remote start installed on their Speed3 or Speed6?

can you change that remote to be vibrate only? their website isn't all that clear if it can be set to vibrate only mode.

[Addikted To Boost]

well guys i could be wrong but according to the ecu pinout diagram the neutral switch is a black wire with an orange stripe in location 1S.

[TongMan]

thanks for the diagram layouts...I will contact my installer and have him hook up the neutral safety wire!

[wisniaPl]

where did you get it?? how is the alarm is it very sensitive?? Im looking to get one but I dont know which oneto get...and one last thing does it require key to be placed to use remote start or something??

[TongMan]

the sensitivity can be adjusted to your liking...up to level 15, which mine is set at because it was not mounted to the firewall. You will have to cut open one programmer key and extract the chip then mount it somewhere close to the key ignition area. My extracted key is still useable.

[wisniaPl]

what you ahve to do to the key??

[TongMan]

slice the plastic piece in half vertically and extract the small immobilizer chip from the key, then mount the chip close to the place where you insert your key.

[SSinstaller]

There are several different parts available that will bypass the immobilizer without having to destroy a key.

[TongMan]

my key still works...just that the immobilizer chip had been extracted. just put the black plastic fob back together after taking the chip out.

[Hitman007]

If you ever need info on Bypass's here is a good site

XpressKit.com

[xcoldricex]

anyone know how to bypass the factory alarm? my viper is installed but if i try to remote start without disabling the alarm the factory alarm goes off.

[SSinstaller]

Originally Posted by xcoldricex anyone know how to bypass the factory alarm? my viper is installed but if i try to remote start without disabling the alarm the factory alarm goes off.

6/MS6 Factory Alarm Arm/Disarm:

blue or blue/white ;BCM, 24 pin plug, pin 7J

Meter this wire while turning the key in the driver door key cylinder. Arm is negative trigger thru a 1000 ohm resistor. Disarm is a straight negative trigger. MUST use relays. The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel.

3/MS3 Factory Alarm Disarm:

black/white ;driver kick or PJB, brown 32 pin plug (J-06), pin AA

The PJB (Passenger Junction Box) is behind the glove box. Meter this wire while turning the key in the driver door key cylinder. Disarm is a straight negative trigger.

[MZRDISI4]

Originally Posted by arcticms3 I have the 5900, but I did not get the remote start installed because I had no use for it. I did however get the turbo timer hooked up and its a great peace of mind to be able to arm the alarm while the turbo timer is still going.

Hmm so you can get this installed without the remote start? That's something I'd really like because I don't want it but I do love this alarm.

[SPD6Tuner]

I got a remote installed on my speed6. I love it so I dont have to run outside on those cold days, but I cant leave my car in gear like im used to. I hope I dont forget oneday and accidently start it while in gear.

[TongMan]

good thing that we have the neutral safety wire on our ecu's.