The Ultimate "Will They Fit" Thread - Everything you need to know about wheels, spacers and tires for your MS

[hnda etr]

Originally Posted by driver311 For the street Ive ran 18x8.5 45 offset with 5mm spacers and 255/35/18 all the way around. Rolled fenders and -2.0 camber was needed to clear. Fits great and looks hella tough. 18s look great on this car and thats what most will run. Get the right offset and go with a wider tire. 245/35/18 or 255/35/18 will allow you to go low, while delivering a much needed contact patch and in a softer compound will really put a smile on your face. This isnt a honda, and 225s just arent gonna work. I hope this tread and this comment helps in your decision making process. Save a few more bucks and do it right the first time. Good luck and happy modding. LOL

I've been having a hell of a time trying to find a set of wheels that will clear my StopTech BBK - running the stock wheels and brakes until I can find a set...

Anthony, basically you are running an 18x8.5 +40 wheel (accounting for the spacer) and 255/35's... I'm wondering if I would be able to run an 18x8.5 +40 (with no spacer) and 245/35 or 235/40 without having to change the camber or roll the front fenders...? I have the MS CO's installed and am lowered about 1"... I'm used to 245/40's on my old Maxima, but running 245/35's on the MS3 makes me think the ride will be even more bumpy/jarring - which is a reason to stick with 235/40's...

EDIT - Also, I was running a set of 18 x 8 +42 with 235/40/18's on them and I'd rub in the rear when hitting bumps - and my fenders were already pulled - how are you able to run 18 x 8 +40 with 255's ? that's pushing the tire about 15mm even further out of the fender...

[daafisch]

I'm looking at a 17x8 ET50 wheel (Kosei K4R) and I want to run a 245/40 RS3 on it. What spacers do you think I will need to run to clear everything? Rear fenders are already rolled.

[Nliiitend1]

Probably none, especially if you're on Koni Yellows as you are (or any other OEM style setup, for that matter).

I'm thinking I might be able to run a 245 section width on my 18x8s and I've got coilovers (that sit closer to the inside edge of the tire).

What I'm saying is that I'm currently running 235/40R18 tires on 18x8 et50 wheels as my summer setup with a decent amount of room, so you may be just fine with that setup using no spacers at all...

[forcedinduktion]

I will be able to sleep better at night knowing 2nd gen can run a more aggressive setup over a genone

[travis9935]

Originally Posted by forcedinduktion I will be able to sleep better at night knowing 2nd gen can run a more aggressive setup over a genone

Prob cause they have larger truck wheel wells! And the pre-runner look! But at least its happy that way, via a smile on its face! :-P

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[Blaze]

So what would need to be done to run 255/40/18? Will probably be on koni yellows by the time this happens. Would like the wheels to sit flush with the car. Is this a pipe dream? Go Search first then come back?

[dastpe]

Originally Posted by BlazeYDH So what would need to be done to run 255/40/18? Will probably be on koni yellows by the time this happens. Would like the wheels to sit flush with the car. Is this a pipe dream? Go Search first then come back?

its been done...i think its a white first gen ms3 with black or gunmetal wheels keep in mind COs give you more room on the inside, so think about going that route if having 255s are that important to you. get on a tire calculator and be ready for some fender/camber work and trying a few different small spacers to make it perfect.

[Nliiitend1]

Originally Posted by dastpe its been done...i think its a white first gen ms3 with black or gunmetal wheels keep in mind COs give you more room on the inside, so think about going that route if having 255s are that important to you. get on a tire calculator and be ready for some fender/camber work and trying a few different small spacers to make it perfect.

Coilovers actually tend to give you less room on the inside than the OEM or OEM style (i.e. Bilstein, Koni, etc.) struts because of the fact that the spring perch usually sits lower on an adjustable-height coilover than it does on an OEM style strut (which puts the perch well above the tire), adding "thickness" to the overall setup at the height that the top of the wheel/tire sits.

[2010_MS3]

Hmm

[Nitr0EngiE]

what do i need to run 18 x 9

[hnda etr]

Ok, I finally bought some rims that give me 2mm clearance on my StopTech BBK. They are SSR Type F 18x8 +38.

Can you guys tell me if I'll be able to run 235/40/18 tires with no problems? My rear fenders are already slightly rolled - not extremely though.

[Nliiitend1]

I think that'd be fine. There are guys running 235/40R18 tires on 18x8.5 wheels of the same offset (Evo X wheels) with no more than a roll in the rear, so I think you'll be alright.

[hnda etr]

Originally Posted by Nliiitend1 I think that'd be fine. There are guys running 235/40R18 tires on 18x8.5 wheels of the same offset (Evo X wheels) with no more than a roll in the rear, so I think you'll be alright.

Thanks for the info!

[Nliiitend1]

No problem.

I'd predict that at most, you'll need to get a bit more "thorough" with your rear roll (depending on how flat you got things the first time) and a little massaging (i.e., grinding) of the area where the rear bumper meets the unibody.

[Tomas]

Originally Posted by Nitr0EngiE what do i need to run 18 x 9

1/4 cup of cherries
2 tea spoons of pepper
3 cloves of garlic
and brown sugar to taste

[Onelovesoccer]

Dearlership wanted to charge me $350/tire for stock replacements. I couldn't believe it. But I do need tires, so I'm looking at getting 235/40/18 Hankook R-S3s. I still have stock wheels and will be keeping them.

Appears I'll be ok to put those on, correct? I'm not seeing anyone running that set up who had to make adjustments.

Hankook Ventus R-S3

[niko.v]

okay so im looking to gett the 522 18x9.5 with a +38 offset i am lowered on springs i have just under 2 finger gap in the front and 2 in the back will thes wheels fit? will i need to roll?i will be running thes wheels on a 225/40/18 tire

thanks in advance

[ScarMS3]

Was thinking about buying some fd wheels, and running 245/50/16 which pretty much matches stock height. I understand that the offset is around +50 on these wheels, do I need spacers for strut clearance on stock suspension, roll the rears or do you guys have any suggestions for me on this venture? Thanks

[speeed]

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[Domino81]

I've actually been wondering (since I just bought a set) how hard it's going to be to get 18x8.5 ET48 to fit, and what work is involved.

[NoRegrets]

First of all, thank you so much for putting this thread together.
This is one of the reasons why I love this community.

Ok, now for the reason why I'm in this thread.
At first, I was looking into getting a set of 17x8 wheels, but couldn't find any that I like.
So I found a set of Rota Grids, but its extreamly wide. They're 17x9 with a 42 offset. I'm going with 245/40/17 gforce kdw's for tires.
At the moment, I'm stock suspension, but I want to go eiback prokit with koni yellows.

Question is, would I need spacers (if so, what size) and do I need to roll all 4 fenders or just the rear?

Thank you in advance for your replies. Sorry if this is a newb question, but I'd preffer to get this right the first time.

[hnda etr]

Turns out you CANNOT run 18x8 +38 with 235/40's on a 1" drop with MS CO's without a roll and some grinding!

Not sure how anyone says they can run 255's on an 8 or 8.5" wheel without rubbing (even with a roll) - unless maybe they're at stock height with super stiff struts/shocks in the back...

Had to have my fenders rolled (more) and some grinding done on the bumper tab thingy to make it livable...


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[Onelovesoccer]

had my Hankook v12 235/40/18s put on my genpu stock wheels. no issues at all. looks great.

[dastpe]

Originally Posted by hnda etr Turns out you CANNOT run 18x8 +38 with 235/40's on a 1" drop with MS CO's without a roll and some grinding! Not sure how anyone says they can run 255's on an 8 or 8.5" wheel without rubbing (even with a roll) - unless maybe they're at stock height with super stiff struts/shocks in the back... Had to have my fenders rolled (more) and some grinding done on the bumper tab thingy to make it livable... Sent from my iPhone using lame ass Tapatalk

wow, that sucks. can you adjust the stiffness? it would seem to me that you should be able to do that...esp with a flat roll and bumper tab grindage.

[hnda etr]

Originally Posted by Onelovesoccer had my Hankook v12 235/40/18s put on my genpu stock wheels. no issues at all. looks great.

Difference between stock offset (+52 for genwon) and my +38 are a little over half an inch (14mm) movement closer to the fender lip... When I had the same tire on my +48 OZ rims, I was able to get by with the minor roll I had...


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[hnda etr]

Originally Posted by dastpe wow, that sucks. can you adjust the stiffness? it would seem to me that you should be able to do that...esp with a flat roll and bumper tab grindage.

I ended up having a guy from a local forum (MOCC) who does fender rolling on the side at his house roll mine some more. He also ground down the tabs.

Now I'm "Hellaflush" lol and only get some very slight rubbing when hitting a big bump or dip at freeway speeds... I'll probably be raising the rear by about 1/4" when I get my corksport front camber plates installed, which will add even more clearance...


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[breakfstincluded]

mmm... good thread OP lol

wheel sizing and suspension shit blows my mind,

with my driveway I can't afford any kind of drop.

too poor to consider new wheels anyway.

But when I do I'll probably spend a good few days with the links on this thread finding out what gets me the best performance... with stock height and virgin fenders lol.

[Toymachinespeed]

Okay guys, so im going a little crazy..

I am looking at buying a set of Rota G Forces. 18x9 +30 and will be wrapped in some 235/40/18 Continental DW.

I understand rolling the rear fenders most likely will need to be done.

But the real question i have is do you guys think i will run into any problems with the stock suspension (specifically the struts)?

According to this website ---> LINKY (wheel specs already typed in)
They should fit because the part of the rim closest to the strut is actually a little bit farther away than the stock rim.

So if anyone could chime in and either reassure me that these will work or give me a heads up on what might need to be done. Spacers? I dunno really i just dont want to buy them and have to do a ton of shit to get them to fit.

Thanks in advance for any help/advice.

[hnda etr]

Originally Posted by Toymachinespeed Okay guys, so im going a little crazy.. I am looking at buying a set of Rota G Forces. 18x9 +30 and will be wrapped in some 235/40/18 Continental DW. I understand rolling the rear fenders most likely will need to be done. But the real question i have is do you guys think i will run into any problems with the stock suspension (specifically the struts)? According to this website ---> LINKY (wheel specs already typed in) They should fit because the part of the rim closest to the strut is actually a little bit farther away than the stock rim. So if anyone could chime in and either reassure me that these will work or give me a heads up on what might need to be done. Spacers? I dunno really i just dont want to buy them and have to do a ton of shit to get them to fit. Thanks in advance for any help/advice.

You're going to get massive rubbing... And the wheel is gonna stick out past the fender lip

My wheels are 18x8 +38 and they are flush.

18x9+30 is going to put you another ~21 mm further outside my wheels - that's over 3/4 of an inch.

My advice- don't do it

If you want to stay that wide, you need to get a higher offset wheel - like in the +44 or higher range.. IMHO

Edit - another way to think of it is that compared to the stock 18x7 +52 gen one wheel, your wheel is going to be ~47 mm further towards the fender... Almost 2 inches!


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[Toymachinespeed]

Originally Posted by hnda etr You're going to get massive rubbing... And the wheel is gonna stick out past the fender lip My wheels are 18x8 +38 and they are flush. 18x9+30 is going to put you another ~21 mm further outside my wheels - that's over 3/4 of an inch. My advice- don't do it If you want to stay that wide, you need to get a higher offset wheel - like in the +44 or higher range.. IMHO Edit - another way to think of it is that compared to the stock 18x7 +52 gen one wheel, your wheel is going to be ~47 mm further towards the fender... Almost 2 inches! Sent from my iPhone using lame ass Tapatalk

So you think a 18x8.5 +48 would fit better?

[hnda etr]

Originally Posted by Toymachinespeed So you think a 18x8.5 +48 would fit better?

Much better... You might still need a little roll in the back, but you won't have any where near the headache as the other wheels would give you.

The 18x8.5 +48 with 235/40 should push you ~3mm in from the fender (when compared to my wheels) toward the strut.

Much better choice.


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[Toymachinespeed]

Originally Posted by hnda etr Much better... You might still need a little roll in the back, but you won't have any where near the headache as the other wheels would give you. The 18x8.5 +48 with 235/40 should push you ~3mm in from the fender (when compared to my wheels) toward the strut. Much better choice. Sent from my iPhone using lame ass Tapatalk

No spacers either? As far as being close to the struts?

[hnda etr]

Originally Posted by Toymachinespeed No spacers either? As far as being close to the struts?

Spacers would push you out towards the fender again...

I can't guarantee fitment on the inside (strut) side since I don't have anything to compare them to.. But I think you'll be fine...

Stock wheels are +52 and your +48 pushes the wheel 4mm more away from the strut. Your 8.5" wheel though equates to .75" (3/4") or about ~19mm more width in each side pushing you back 19mm towards the strut. Subtract the 4mm you pushed out from the 19mm you pushed in and that leaves you with a net of 15mm closer to the strut than the stock wheel.. If I'm thinking straight this late at night...

I ran my old 18x8 +48 OZ wheels with 235/40 with no problems with inside clearance... Your setup would be 1/4" closer to the strut than mine was... You'll need to crawl under and measure to be sure...

Edit - fixed some numbers I had wrong lol

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[exentix]

so i have heard mixed thoughts on this but havent posted it here. im buying a set of 18*7.5 evo 6 enkeis +45 offset. looking to put some 225/40 general g max as-03's on. will i need a roll or not? i have a fender roller available at one of the meets just wanna know if i need it before i can mount them. btw stock suspension no drop or anything. no plans to drop, maybe konis at some point.

[ScarMS3]

225 should be no problem, apart from most likely being off on the speedo.

[hnda etr]

Originally Posted by ScarMS3 225 should be no problem, apart from most likely being off on the speedo.

Yeah you should be fine... Speedo will be about 2% slower than stock


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[Toymachinespeed]

Originally Posted by hnda etr Spacers would push you out towards the fender again... I can't guarantee fitment on the inside (strut) side since I don't have anything to compare them to.. But I think you'll be fine... Stock wheels are +52 and your +48 pushes the wheel 4mm more away from the strut. Your 8.5" wheel though equates to .75" (3/4") or about ~19mm more width in each side pushing you back 19mm towards the strut. Subtract the 4mm you pushed out from the 19mm you pushed in and that leaves you with a net of 15mm closer to the strut than the stock wheel.. If I'm thinking straight this late at night... I ran my old 18x8 +48 OZ wheels with 235/40 with no problems with inside clearance... Your setup would be 1/4" closer to the strut than mine was... You'll need to crawl under and measure to be sure... Edit - fixed some numbers I had wrong lol Sent from my iPhone using lame ass Tapatalk

Thanks man i appreciate all the help and advice. Im just going to get the 18x8.5 and call it a day. Really wanted the 9 inch wide because it has a more concave look to it, but oh well..

Thanks again man! Much appreciated!

[hnda etr]

Originally Posted by Toymachinespeed Thanks man i appreciate all the help and advice. Im just going to get the 18x8.5 and call it a day. Really wanted the 9 inch wide because it has a more concave look to it, but oh well.. Thanks again man! Much appreciated!

Welcome! I learned a lot about wheel fitment while searching for wheels lol


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[jeopardy98]

I see it says 17" is the smallest that will clear the brakes. I'm looking on tire rack and CL for a cheap set of winter rims/tires and I'm even willing to go with steelies but tire rack doesn't sell steelies in 17 and they recommend a 16" setup for winter tires. Why would they offer this if a 16" wheel won't clear the brakes? Just wanted to confirm that the 17 is the smallest.

I might just find a set of wheels I like and put them on the genpu and use the stockers for winter/auto-x. My head is spinning with all this wheel talk though. Going to have to sleep on it and come back and re-read all of this.

[dastpe]

Originally Posted by hnda etr I ended up having a guy from a local forum (MOCC) who does fender rolling on the side at his house roll mine some more. He also ground down the tabs. Now I'm "Hellaflush" lol and only get some very slight rubbing when hitting a big bump or dip at freeway speeds... I'll probably be raising the rear by about 1/4" when I get my corksport front camber plates installed, which will add even more clearance... Sent from my iPhone using lame ass Tapatalk

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Originally Posted by jeopardy98 I see it says 17" is the smallest that will clear the brakes. I'm looking on tire rack and CL for a cheap set of winter rims/tires and I'm even willing to go with steelies but tire rack doesn't sell steelies in 17 and they recommend a 16" setup for winter tires. Why would they offer this if a 16" wheel won't clear the brakes? Just wanted to confirm that the 17 is the smallest. I might just find a set of wheels I like and put them on the genpu and use the stockers for winter/auto-x. My head is spinning with all this wheel talk though. Going to have to sleep on it and come back and re-read all of this.

16" fits. its been answered time and time again. just search some winter setups on here to see. i run 16" winter wheels.