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www.cp-e.com 12-24-2015 08:15 AM

cp-e™ 12Days Sale - Day12 The wait is over!!! Intake Manifold!!!!
 
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Day twelve of our 12Days sale
The wait is over Intake Manifold release
http://cp-e.com/webstore/product/maz...take-manifold/
Thank you for a wonderful 2015. We hope you enjoyed the sales. HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!!
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Easter Bunny 12-24-2015 08:28 AM

Thats a damn good price.

MD1032 12-24-2015 08:33 AM

http://i.imgur.com/3EwbtrB.gif

neganox 12-24-2015 08:35 AM

More info about this havoc rail?

Code Monkey 12-24-2015 08:40 AM

White paper?

Mazdazilla6 12-24-2015 11:32 AM

Perfect! I love the design, especially the bell mouths!

@www.cp-e.com; Is there any chance there will be a meth version?

@Enki; Looks like it works with TMICs too.

SarcasticOne 12-24-2015 12:41 PM

Holy shit...
Christmas miracle (25th in Australia when this was released)

chapy18 12-24-2015 12:55 PM

Looks pretty but do you have any numbers, flow, dyno, etc.....

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Modality14 12-24-2015 01:00 PM

You would release this..right after my car gets wrecked..god damn it lol..looking to see the power these make

Enki 12-24-2015 01:01 PM

Need to see runner angle into head and confirmation on TMIC working properly before I jump off a cliff buying this thing and having to figure out how to make a TMIC work with it.

speedfreak44 12-24-2015 01:03 PM

It is definitely pretty but pretty doesn't mean it's good in bed. Bravo on the release, can't wait to see results.

SpeedRebirth 12-24-2015 05:36 PM

A little help for the lazy people :D

http://mazdaspeed.se/board/img/uploa...anifold_04.jpg

http://mazdaspeed.se/board/img/uploa...nifold_031.jpg

http://mazdaspeed.se/board/img/uploa...anifold_02.jpg

http://mazdaspeed.se/board/img/uploa...anifold_01.jpg

http://mazdaspeed.se/board/img/uploa...peedgoldim.jpg

http://mazdaspeed.se/board/img/uploa...eedblackim.jpg

No pics of the top though?

Damn... it weighs 40 lbs lol!!

maisonvi 12-24-2015 06:44 PM

Interested for sure, but I can't imagine anyone will buy one without more information. Flow comparisons, fuel rail cost, pictures of the whole thing.

I was looking forward to this release, but feeling disappointed with how they went about releasing it.

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Tokay444 12-24-2015 07:11 PM

Great idea and design.
Poorly executed. Those velocity stacks look worse than the cheap Cosworth knock offs for the MZR/Duratec heads.

shaneski 12-24-2015 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maisonvi (Post 2999844)
Interested for sure, but I can't imagine anyone will buy one without more information. Flow comparisons, fuel rail cost, pictures of the whole thing.

I was looking forward to this release, but feeling disappointed with how they went about releasing it.

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It is odd, you would think if the thing worked there would be test results etc all over the place, considering there isn't even any on their own shop page where it is sold isn't giving a good signal that it has even been tested in the wild.

Mazdazilla6 12-24-2015 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 2999849)
Great idea and design.
Poorly executed. Those velocity stacks look worse than the cheap Cosworth knock offs for the MZR/Duratec heads.

Please elaborate. What makes these velocity stacks so bad?

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaneski (Post 2999854)
It is odd, you would think if the thing worked there would be test results etc all over the place, considering there isn't even any on their own shop page where it is sold isn't giving a good signal that it has even been tested in the wild.

There are pictures of this on a car from over 2 years ago. They might still be writing up results.

Tokay444 12-24-2015 08:53 PM

The fact they aren't smooth and uniform. Especially on the lead-in rads.

Enki 12-24-2015 09:03 PM

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He means look at this picture really close.

Edit: Hopefully the listed shipping weight of 40 lbs is a typo too.

Alpha 12-24-2015 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enki (Post 2999885)
He means look at this picture really close.

Edit: Hopefully the listed shipping weight of 40 lbs is a typo too.

Looks like some finishing is definitely needed... Maybe after casting even if it DOES bump the price up a bit. (I'd gladly pay for a smoother transition)

Mazdazilla6 12-24-2015 10:15 PM

So you're upset that a cast part, is cast?

If that really bothers you that much then take 20 minutes and go at it with a polishing bit on a dremel. This manifold will already outflow the JMF no problem. I think people are really overexpecting with this. IMO this is about as far as they could have gone with an IM and still keep it affordable.

Tokay444 12-25-2015 06:25 AM

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It's already the most expensive manifold on the market and it isn't finished...
100% of castings are cast. Not all of them look like they came out of a Chinese sweat shop.

MD1032 12-25-2015 06:50 AM

What does the head side of the manifold look like I wonder? Does it have split runners like the OE?

Tokay444 12-25-2015 07:04 AM

Yes.

jdmage_mx5 12-25-2015 07:24 AM

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I have an honest concern and question. I have the CPE exhaust manifold in which some of the bolts were a nightmare to install because the holes were drilled to close to the runners. Is this going to be the same case as seen in the picture below? Notice the hole that is on the head side flange. There is no way on earth a bolt is going to tighten down there.

MD1032 12-25-2015 07:27 AM

Ah yes. Reminds me of how they cast my wonderful CP-E downpipe where the only way to tighten the lower two nuts is with a stubby open ended wrench from underneath, after removing the turbo bracket...

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SpeedRebirth 12-25-2015 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmage_mx5 (Post 2999953)
I have an honest concern and question. I have the CPE exhaust manifold in which some of the bolts were a nightmare to install because the holes were drilled to close to the runners.

You talking about the studs to the head or turbo? I had absolutely no issue tightening my cpe mani to the head. Mine is v-band so I don't have studs to the turbo. I've seen people that needed to cut the studs on the turbo to get the nut on. And with some turbos you may need to do the same on the head studs because the compressor housing hits it, but that's not a cpe manifold issue since it's stock location. No biggie IMO.

The hole location on the IM on the other side.... That one's gonna be fun

r3d 12-25-2015 08:15 AM

I like the looks of it, definitely interested in getting it, but I'm with Enki on TMIC fitting. I see the intercooler mounting bracket, but will the cold pipe needed to be modified to fit the inlet angle?

jdmage_mx5 12-25-2015 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SpeedRebirth (Post 2999959)
You talking about the studs to the head or turbo? I had absolutely no issue tightening my cpe mani to the head. Mine is v-band so I don't have studs to the turbo. I've seen people that needed to cut the studs on the turbo to get the nut on. And with some turbos you may need to do the same on the head studs because the compressor housing hits it, but that's not a cpe manifold issue since it's stock location. No biggie IMO. The hole location on the IM on the other side.... That one's gonna be fun

My issue was with the turbo to manifold. I am running the oem style flange. My flange was slightly off center which pushed one of the bolts into the runner area. So in a sense it is a CPE issue. Had the flange gone on straight it would have been clear for the bolt head. I have a few of their products and each one has a quirk that was not very thought out in the design process. Over all I am very happy with everything I have from them, it's just each install has been an adventure.

maisonvi 12-25-2015 08:51 AM

For sure the flow will be better than a JMF with two 90s. Curious to see how the casting looks in real life too.

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mr.speedy3 12-25-2015 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Code Monkey (Post 2999636)
White paper?

This.

@www.cp-e.com

Tokay444 12-25-2015 12:01 PM

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The white paper doesn't matter if it doesn't bolt up to the head.

Mazdazilla6 12-25-2015 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 2999945)
It's already the most expensive manifold on the market and it isn't finished...
100% of castings are cast. Not all of them look like they came out of a Chinese sweat shop.

That Cosworth mani costs almost twice as much. Of course it's going to be a better quality. I'm sure Cp-e considered using a higher quality company but how much cost would that add? IMO a higher quality cast isn't worth it if it's going to cost hundreds more when I can go in there and polish it myself for practically nothing.

I'm interested to see what about the head flange holes.

Tokay444 12-25-2015 02:51 PM

You're not gonna polish out complete voids in the casting.
I would pay money for quality craftsmanship.
It just seems this platform gets the short end of the stick, full stop.

Modality14 12-25-2015 11:45 PM

Would like to see this installed. Patiently waits.

MSP611 12-26-2015 03:28 AM

Mehhh I'll sub for some results while corksport fucks around with their Mani.

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Jewbacca 12-26-2015 09:27 AM

No pictures of the top side of the manifold?? i.e. No pictures of the injector bosses, one of the key features? What is being hidden on the top side lol?

It looks good, but no doubt chinese made then finish machined at cpe. My experience with similarly made manifolds for other platforms (from various brands found on eBay) is the flange hole spacing is not quite right, as we see here. Holes need to be slotted or runners clearanced for bolt/nut installation. Not a big deal on a $350 manifold, but for $1K, idk.

Mazdazilla6 12-26-2015 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewbacca (Post 3000279)
No pictures of the top side of the manifold?? i.e. No pictures of the injector bosses, one of the key features? What is being hidden on the top side lol?

It looks good, but no doubt chinese made then finish machined at cpe. My experience with similarly made manifolds for other platforms (from various brands found on eBay) is the flange hole spacing is not quite right, as we see here. Holes need to be slotted or runners clearanced for bolt/nut installation. Not a big deal on a $350 manifold, but for $1K, idk.

There are pictures, you're just too new to actually take the time and look around. Donate brownie. Also, if you don't like it, then go buy a JMF and see how well their wonderful fitment works out for you.

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...s-img_5213.jpg

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...s-img_0912.jpg

Enki 12-26-2015 01:31 PM

So are those bolt holes for TMIC or just PI rail mounting?

Jewbacca 12-26-2015 01:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mazdazilla6 (Post 3000312)
There are pictures, you're just too new to actually take the time and look around. Donate brownie. Also, if you don't like it, then go buy a JMF and see how well their wonderful fitment works out for you.

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...s-img_5213.jpg

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...s-img_0912.jpg

I've had an account since 08-04-2013 (I'll help you out, that's about 2.5 years), I just don't post.

Those pictures are really quite terrible (bad). I saw those and I saw the one I attached below. I was wondering why a picture of the top side of the manifold was omitted (left out) from the official product page, so I made a post asking.

I'll pass on the JMF, I was hoping this one would be superior (better).

Etipp98 12-26-2015 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 3000002)
The white paper doesn't matter if it doesn't bolt up to the head.

We don't use this hole... idk why they have that on this flange


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