CP-E Intake manifold

[jmhinkle]

TMIC support? Really? Do you really think you come close to needing an intake manifold with a TMIC still on the car?

[El_Diablo]

JMF doesn't offer a bolt on solution for a TMIC either but that doesn't mean it can't be done.

[Voltwings]

Originally Posted by jmhinkle TMIC support? Really? Do you really think you come close to needing an intake manifold with a TMIC still on the car?

i ran my ETS + Meth on my BT for quite some time. it worked amazing

[Enki]

With enough corn, BATs don't matter as much.

Hell, I'm tempted to try out chemical intercooling and ditch the IC all together, but that isn't really viable long term or for road racing without a huge meth cell.

[jmhinkle]

Originally Posted by Voltwings i ran my ETS + Meth on my BT for quite some time. it worked amazing

Not amazing enough to warrant an intake manifold. No way, No how.

[Voltwings]

Originally Posted by jmhinkle Not amazing enough to warrant an intake manifold. No way, No how.

well i doubt half the people running the JMF "NEED" it, the stock unit flows damn well as it is. Now, to say it didnt run amazing enough to need 4 more injectors, that i may agree with you on. That core is still badass and can move some serious airflow though.

[Enki]

Originally Posted by jmhinkle Not amazing enough to warrant an intake manifold. No way, No how.

So, back to this again; same kind of naysay happened in the JMF thread.

An upgraded manifold does more than just flow more air; it evens the flow per cylinder.

It's this more even airflow I want, not more overall airflow.

[The Panda]

Originally Posted by jmhinkle Nobody gives a damn about "another" exhaust. We want intake manifold.

i doubt nobody gives a damn.. I was just stating they have many projects going on for us and other platforms..

[jmhinkle]

Originally Posted by Enki So, back to this again; same kind of naysay happened in the JMF thread. An upgraded manifold does more than just flow more air; it evens the flow per cylinder. It's this more even airflow I want, not more overall airflow.

Yes it does even things out when it is made right. I will totally agree with that. If you want that so be it. Can you get close enough on the stock manifold with some diy modding, yes you can. Boost overcomes a lot of restrictions though.

[The Panda]

Originally Posted by jmhinkle Yes it does even things out when it is made right. I will totally agree with that. If you want that so be it. Can you get close enough on the stock manifold with some diy modding, yes you can. Boost overcomes a lot of restrictions though.

Regardless If this mani doesn't come with Bigger TB option its still gonna have restriction.

[PapaSmurf]

If it has stock TB bolting, just get the super skaters TB.

I have a feeling this manifold is going to destroy the competitions and I fucking hate CPe haha


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[Tokay444]

Dual plenum?
A forced induction manifold needs a dual plenum.

[Lakespeed6]

Are we sure this won't support TMIC?
I plan on staying TMIC with Meth and E.

[El_Diablo]

All you'll need to do is fab a bracket and TMIC to TB connection. Not all that difficult.

[PapaSmurf]

all this TMIC talk LOL

[Ziggo]

I like the that the SLA has the injector bodies included. Why? Because we can.

Zigatapatalka

[jack_hammer]

Originally Posted by Voltwings i ran my ETS + Meth on my BT for quite some time. it worked amazing

*amazingly

Originally Posted by Enki It's this more even airflow I want, not more overall airflow.

exaaaactly

[super_pablo_]

as usual, late to the thread, but better late than never.

[Voltwings]

Originally Posted by jack_hammer *amazingly

the sad part is i'm a grammar nazi haha. No more late night forum scrolling on the phone -_-

[sidekick]

Originally Posted by jmhinkle TMIC support? Really? Do you really think you come close to needing an intake manifold with a TMIC still on the car?

3.25" flows 1176 CFM (705hp based on flow, inlet/oulet restrict flow to ~600hp,

.

[shadesofgray19]

Originally Posted by sidekick .

Heat soak, nuff said.

[sidekick]

Originally Posted by shadesofgray19 Heat soak, nuff said.

I'm not saying it's a good idea to use the ETS on a 600HP build, but it is possible.

[Voltwings]

Originally Posted by shadesofgray19 Heat soak, nuff said.

You have to take into account how much more effective the gen 2 scoop design is than the 1st gen. I'm not saying everyone should only use an ETS, but its a badass core and cools quite well.

[khopwood77]

Nothing a 5 port meth kit won't cure.

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[El_Diablo]

If I get a manifold most likely I will go with an ETS TMIC and meth. A FMIC is tempting but im not sure I want that much lag on my DD.

It just seems like the best solution for my usage. On top of that, I really would like to see if we can push a K04 any further on a stock style setup and again, I think a TMIC would be the best way to do this.

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by El_Diablo If I get a manifold most likely I will go with an ETS TMIC and meth. A FMIC is tempting but im not sure I want that much lag on my DD. It just seems like the best solution for my usage. On top of that, I really would like to see if we can push a K04 any further on a stock style setup and again, I think a TMIC would be the best way to do this.

lag... on a K04... is this real life?

[El_Diablo]

Not turbo lag.... throttle lag. On any turbo system, the shorter the turbo to throttle plumbing, the faster the engine will respond. Not a very difficult theory to understand.

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by El_Diablo Not turbo lag.... throttle lag. On any turbo system, the shorter the turbo to throttle plumbing, the faster the engine will respond. Not a very difficult theory to understand.

its not very difficult to understand that it is not noticable at all.

[Voltwings]

also, nothing a quick tinker with ATR cant fix.

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by El_Diablo Not turbo lag.... throttle lag. On any turbo system, the shorter the turbo to throttle plumbing, the faster the engine will respond. Not a very difficult theory to understand.

you know you can change your APP and DWB tables right?

[NJSPEED3]

Come On CPE I'm waiting !!

[XLT_66]

Hmmm. This does look pretty nice. I tried to get this project approved over a year ago to start working on but got denied.

Good job CP-E, doing what I wanted but wasn't allowed.

P.S. - I'd be happy to test this for you guys as well. Mods in sig and Mustang Dyno out back. Just sayin...

[NJSPEED3]

Originally Posted by XLT_66 Hmmm. This does look pretty nice. I tried to get this project approved over a year ago to start working on but got denied. Good job CP-E, doing what I wanted but wasn't allowed. P.S. - I'd be happy to test this for you guys as well. Mods in sig and Mustang Dyno out back. Just sayin...

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[ms3blackmica]

Very nice.

Options are always something that I like.

Very interested to see what becomes of this!

[El_Diablo]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes you know you can change your APP and DWB tables right?

That won't change one damn thing about what I'm talking about. Its not going to fill the vacuum any sooner.

Being as how I've never been in an ms3 with a tmic or a fmic I have nothing to go on as far as feel other than what other people have said about their tmic to fmic throttle response. Typically the best rule of thumb is to make the IC system as short as possible with as few bends as possible to increase/maintain throttle response. The TMIC is king in that function. The offset of course is the ease of heatsoak on a TMIC setup.

Its perfectly logical that a car with a 10 cubic foot plumbing system will fill faster than a vehicle with a 20 cubic foot system. A larger turbo does negate that somewhat however due to the larger volume of air its able to push.

[Ziggo]

Wait, you have never been in a ms3 with either and you are passing judgement on the throttle response?

I have a larger turbo and a fmic and the throttle response is just fine.

Zigatapatalka

[jmhinkle]

Originally Posted by El_Diablo That won't change one damn thing about what I'm talking about. Its not going to fill the vacuum any sooner. Being as how I've never been in an ms3 with a tmic or a fmic I have nothing to go on as far as feel other than what other people have said about their tmic to fmic throttle response. Typically the best rule of thumb is to make the IC system as short as possible with as few bends as possible to increase/maintain throttle response. The TMIC is king in that function. The offset of course is the ease of heatsoak on a TMIC setup. Its perfectly logical that a car with a 10 cubic foot plumbing system will fill faster than a vehicle with a 20 cubic foot system. A larger turbo does negate that somewhat however due to the larger volume of air its able to push.

You just said you've never been in an MS3 at all yet you have one posted in your signature like it is yours. Troll much?

[ms3blackmica]

Don't make me tag every BY owner I know Lol

[Voltwings]

Originally Posted by El_Diablo That won't change one damn thing about what I'm talking about. Its not going to fill the vacuum any sooner.

you obviously fail to understand how those tables work... lets just keep this simple.
The APP tables = Applied pedal position if you didnt already know, lets assume the one you have right now is 1:1. If you push the pedal 10% the throttle body opens 10%. Now to compensate for "lag", we can bump up the throttle body to open say... 15%. Now when you push the pedal down 10% the throttle body has opened 15%, so you are filling the same volume with the same pedal position and the car feels the exact same.

the lag is not something you will even notice, but there are plenty of ways around it still.

[El_Diablo]

Originally Posted by jmhinkle You just said you've never been in an MS3 at all yet you have one posted in your signature like it is yours. Troll much?

Aftermarket tmic or fmic fuck face. Comprehension skills help.

Originally Posted by Ziggo Wait, you have never been in a ms3 with either and you are passing judgement on the throttle response? I have a larger turbo and a fmic and the throttle response is just fine. Zigatapatalka

Which again, the larger turbo will assist in filling the larger volume. no judgement being passed that I'm aware of but thanks.