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Default Full Control Flash - Review

First, I want to thank everyone at the shop for coordinating this so quickly. I placed my order Friday afternoon and was able to stop by the shop that evening to get this done.

The entire mid range and top end now seem much stronger. Leaving the shop I was able to get wheelspin in the upper RPMs of 2nd going in a straight line(dry pavement). The turbo is no longer falling on it's face (as bad) past 5500 rpm. The throttle seems much more predictable in all situations making it much more effortless to shift smoothly.

Lou is still the man but I have one more idea for a flash. Many people are using the SB in combination with the DH. It is frustrating not to be able to read boost with the DH. If you could achieve this it would be a truly complete package.

One question: what's with the alarms going off constantly in the shop?

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Where are the BT guys at Cpe? we would like to hear about those guys doing big numbers like socks did!
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So you cant use the Dashhawk after getting flashed?
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The SB caps the MAP sensor to prevent cuts so you can't see actual boost past 10psi or so on the DH when using a SB because the car has no idea what it is in the first place.
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Originally Posted by Silver Ecstasy View Post
So you cant use the Dashhawk after getting flashed?
I use mine after the flash.
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You should be able to use the dashhawk post flash, but not if you are using the standback also.
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Ahh..gotcha.

Weird, I had no idea that it did that.

I've heard that full throttle flash isn't worth anything as opposed to an actual tune (via SB or AP). True or false?
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The SB has not control over throttle. So the FT flash gives you full throttle.
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And I thought according to COBB, there was no real gain of power at 50% WOT vs 100% WOT?
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You can use the Dashhawk still but as Lex mentioned because of the MAP clamp the factory ecu has no idea what the real boost is(only the SB does).

As far as I am concerned the car feels much stronger from the midrange to redline with all else equal. Certainty not as much bang for your buck as a downpipe or FMIC upgrade but I am enjoying it.
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The thing that I like about the flash is that the driver controls the throttle, not the ECU. When you floor the pedal you get WOT (87%), not what the ECU determines it wants to give you.
I'm enjoying it.
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fuck..why cant we open the throttle 100%?
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i had it before i got my ap and the car did feel alot stronger after the flash
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87% is full throttle its just how its perceived by the dash hawk.

you can get a dash hawk to show the boost you want with the standback. It just depends where you set the map clamp.
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full control flash was one of my favorite mods, my only thing is I wish I had of got it done sooner
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their boost cut flash is my favorite I don't know how any modded mazda drives with out ti during the winter.
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87% is full throttle its just how its perceived by the dash hawk.

you can get a dash hawk to show the boost you want with the standback. It just depends where you set the map clamp.
Great but will the stock ECU give me trouble if I allow it to see I am targeting 17 psi?
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their boost cut flash is my favorite I don't know how any modded mazda drives with out ti during the winter.
damn man, what temps are we talking about?

i've driven in mid to upper 20's with the mods in my sig (stock fuel pump) and dont have any fuel or boost cut at WOT. unless people are in even colder weather with more mods.
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