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I was wondering what everyone thatvis running a BNR S3 is being able to put to the wheels on just pump gas. I see people running it but they usually have meth or e85. Also is anybody running the newly revised S3 if its any better than old? So list mods and what your hitting on pump gas please!!!!
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Data's there, you just gotta do a search like the rest of us. Here, let me help you.

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Thank u but again 90% of those have E85 or meth. Just not going to spend 4 hours trying to find ones with just pump gas. Thought it would of been a good idea for guys to just put what they got on pump gas. Cuz not everyone wants to run meth or E85.
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Thank u but again 90% of those have E85 or meth. Just not going to spend 4 hours trying to find ones with just pump gas. Thought it would of been a good idea for guys to just put what they got on pump gas. Cuz not everyone wants to run meth or E85.
With 3" Intake, dp, tp, and intercooler it has been shown you can hit 350 whp on 93.
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Thank u. Theres a start!
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Depends on ambient temps and how much boost you are willing to push, but this should be doable and safe in the long term:

MS3 -- 350 on 93
MS6 -- 330 on 93

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it also depends on the gas/car i've seen some cars that get knock limited at 330 on pump.
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it also depends on the gas/car i've seen some cars that get knock limited at 330 on pump.
Yup. On 91 absolutely. Some places just have shitty 91 as well.


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I'd like to shoot for 350-380whp on my S3 on pump. I haven't gotten a chance to finish a tune though. I don't care what I run for boost but I think I'll need a better core to go anywhere past 350. I have 3.5" intake and 3" catless turbo back. My car sits at 22-23 psi at redline now and 11.5* of timing up top flowing about 350 g/s.
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I'll be finalizing (hopefully) my tune this saturday. I run meth though.......so fuck you. I'll still post up some numbers either way.
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I'd consider meth, E85 is about 1.5 hours from me. The only way it'd be worth it is to get 4-5 5 gallon cans and go fill up. Might cost extra to run corn but would definitely be worth it.
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I advise anyone to get between 15-20 gallons at a time. Eth isn't widely available everywhere so purchasing bulk is a must.

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Haha there can be one meth and one E85 post with there numbers and no more haha let me know what u throw down pump gas! What octane r u using???
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Haha there can be one meth and one E85 post with there numbers and no more haha let me know what u throw down pump gas! What octane r u using???
There's a reason you don't see many on BNRs with 93 only - you'd be better served by spending half as much on a meth kit with a K04. Either meth/eth or don't bother makes more sense.
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In the middle of summer a car fuelled with poor 91 will have a hard time breaking 300. In the middle of winter and with good fuel and cooling you could be around 350 or perhaps a little north of it. It is very much fuel and setup dependant.
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Im in Washington granted it my old speed 3 ifk about this new i have but it the 08 i had made 303/340 on 92oct on stock tmic and DP. Freek tuned it. He will be doing this new car in the next week or so then i will have him do the new BNR S3!! Hopefully this new car puts down as much as my old one did
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Im in Washington granted it my old speed 3 ifk about this new i have but it the 08 i had made 303/340 on 92oct on stock tmic and DP. Freek tuned it. He will be doing this new car in the next week or so then i will have him do the new BNR S3!! Hopefully this new car puts down as much as my old one did
Right now with cooler weather 350 is possible. But SAE corrected at sea level would be around 330 no matter the time of year.
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93 in Texas is very different from 93 in New Jersey.
.............I am not from jersey. Take that back!!!!! ;-)

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I'll post a dyno sheet up of my BNR on 93 after I dyno during ENM. My last log from a long time ago showed 384 g/s running 13.5* timing up top.
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My guess is you'll get knock limited at 320ish


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I pushed my set up to 309hp, 19psi, and 9* of timing on 91 octane in the middle of summer. Gets hot as fuck out here, so I run 25% e85 full time. Just dialed in a conservative 91 map in case I need to fuel up out of town with no E readily available.
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Sounds good looking foward to it!
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Got this today the new 3" intake from corksport!!!
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Im at 21 psi with 12 degrees of timing made 334whp 370tq running at 100% injector duty cycle. Which is conservative compared to what others are doing. Without extra fueling your going to be limited by the injectors.
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Im at 21 psi with 12 degrees of timing made 334whp 370tq running at 100% injector duty cycle. Which is conservative compared to what others are doing. Without extra fueling your going to be limited by the injectors.
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The numbers I mentioned were vd correction factor 1.01 smoothing 3. At church I made 375hp 406tq. I don't quote church numbers.
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The numbers I mentioned were vd correction factor 1.01 smoothing 3. At church I made 375hp 406tq. I don't quote church numbers.
That is impressive numbers with only 12 degrees of timing on C.F. 1.01.
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That is impressive numbers with only 12 degrees of timing on C.F. 1.01.
Yeah car pulls good pretty much 375 at church ends up being about 335 whp.
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That is impressive numbers with only 12 degrees of timing on C.F. 1.01.
This is late but here is a vd..I was able to do a 3rd gear log thanks to nitto nt01s
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This is late but here is a vd..I was able to do a 3rd gear log thanks to nitto nt01s
Still impressive with pump gas.
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Ended up going with the GTX2867 and just started the tune with Justin! So we will see what this thing will do.
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Ended up going with the GTX2867 and just started the tune with Justin! So we will see what this thing will do.
I understand that you went GTX2867 but for the people who is still curious about what a BNR S3 will do on pump gas. Here's a dyno sheet from ENM.
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Thanks for the post. Who tuned you and what octance are you running on?
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If that's it on the BNR, I'd probably go a bit larger if I ever get the balls to go BT.
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Anthony at Richtune tuned me, @superskaterxes; and this is on 93.

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There's a lot more to the BNR just maxed out on fuel. Someone dynoed on E85 and maxed out on fuel and made 350 while someone else made 389 whp during ENM on E85 and Meth.
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There's a lot more to the BNR just maxed out on fuel. Someone dynoed on E85 and maxed out on fuel and made 350 while someone else made 389 whp during ENM on E85 and Meth.
Yea, I've seen they can approach 400 whp with some corn, but do I want to deal with the hassle of getting e85 every time I fill up. Or do I want to deal with a little bit more complex of a n install one time. Or maybe, I would be content with the BNR on pump. We may never know.
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Yea, I've seen they can approach 400 whp with some corn, but do I want to deal with the hassle of getting e85 every time I fill up. Or do I want to deal with a little bit more complex of a n install one time. Or maybe, I would be content with the BNR on pump. We may never know.
Let me put it this way if 330 whp is all you want. You can easily make that on a fully bolted K04 and some E85, but like you said if you don't want to hassle with mixing e85 then 93 on BNR maybe a route for you and still have more room to grow if you ever need more.
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