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(Thread Starter) |   Not Ranked : 0 score  but i have a gen 1 tranny tho... im thinking these become relevant because im on a gen 1 tranny, therefor having gen 1 tranny gear ratios... therefor gen 1 power to gear ratio... ratios lol whatever, mods can delete if im out of line logs and any other details are in this thread http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/for...0/#post2289260 all 4 pulls on same road, the 3 on the same sheet are from the same day and time k04, 93oct, freektuned
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1: i have an entire transmission from a gen 1, but i have a 2010 speed 2: the gen 1's gearing is shorter (so higher ratios) so if i use the same log in VD but calculate power with the longer gears (or lower ratios) from a gen 2 transmission then it will give inaccurate readings by reading far more power than i actually am putting down because it thinks im going through more gear than i actually am in the same amount of power.
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In the end gen 1 tranny suits low end acceleration and the gen 2 tranny suits high end power
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| Not Ranked : 0 score but i have a gen 1 tranny tho... 1. There are already multiple threads about the gearing differences between the Juan and Pu transmissions. I even made nice Excel files to show the redline speed differences. 2. The Juan has the same 2nd gear issues that the Pu has. CWP_MS3 likes this.
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but for the record i was just saying that MY current gen 1 tranny doesn't kick out of second when MY original transmission was kicking out of second occasionally at the time edit: and this is why you sir are a "gearhead" and i am not worthy (insert not worthy smiley thing) edit again: i looked on your profile through your threads and couldnt find it.. can i get a link to that file?
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| Not Ranked : 0 score My Juan has a Pu transmission. We experienced some jerking in 4th gear at light/part throttle due to the ECU thinking it had Juan gears. Switched the ratios in ATR and all is well. There was a ~25whp drop before we switched the ratios, then everything was normal. I liked the Juan gears, but I'm extremely pleased with the Pu gears. Also a direct swap with zero fitment or mechanical issues.
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As far as I know, nobody has done that yet.
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