Estimate my HP & torque please

[Triggerfish]

I have a 2007 MS6 with:

Cobb Accessport tuner
AEM Cold air intake
Corksport race-pipe and catback exhaust

I will be adding:
Corksport downpipe (probably catted, I've heard the difference in output between w/ cat and no cat is negligable. Please correct me if I'm wrong)
Top mount intercooler (probably Corksport)
Turbo inlet hose (probably Corksport)
Fuel pump upgrade (probably Corksport)
Cobb custom dyno tune from their shop in Orange County, CA

I will be running on California 91 octane premium pump gas

Please help me to estimate at the crank and at the wheel horsepower and torque numbers I can expect once all is said and done.

Thank you!
Jeff

[Code Monkey]

210 whp / 215 wtq

[Vansquish]

Originally Posted by Triggerfish I have a 2007 MS6 with: Cobb Accessport tuner AEM Cold air intake Corksport race-pipe and catback exhaust I will be adding: Corksport downpipe (probably catted, I've heard the difference in output between w/ cat and no cat is negligable. Please correct me if I'm wrong) Top mount intercooler (probably Corksport) Turbo inlet hose (probably Corksport) Fuel pump upgrade (probably Corksport) Cobb custom dyno tune from their shop in Orange County, CA I will be running on California 91 octane premium pump gas Please help me to estimate at the crank and at the wheel horsepower and torque numbers I can expect once all is said and done. Thank you! Jeff

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[Thepedigree13]

Originally Posted by Code Monkey 210 whp / 215 wtq

I agree with these number, give or take 100.

[tegxsi]

Too generous for California 91. +/- 50

[Thepedigree13]

Originally Posted by tegxsi Too generous for California 91. +/- 50

Sorry sir, didn't see the part about him being in Cali. I was too consumed by all the other gayness in the post.

You are correct, +/- 50 hp/tq.

[g00s3y]

OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, how was this not the first response.

[MS3Shadow]

It's



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[JakeMS3]

This has to be a troll.

[sheston]

I'll go with zero.... He already has intake and exhaust without internals....

zoom zoom boom, I look forward to his next post

[Blk_pu]

[Triggerfish]

You losers can't answer a simple question without acting like you are god's gift to Mazda owners and the interwebs, insulting others to make your sorry asses feel better about your weak-ass selves.

If you posted a bullsh@t response and if my opinion of you offends you... good.

I don't live at the car club, dyno shop, drag track or in front of this discussion board talking gearhead shit all the time and what mod does this or that. I've got a real career, children, and other interests.

I want my car faster and I'm currently shopping for a clutch (flywheel, PP, etc). Looking at advertised specs and opinions on holding power of certain clutch/flywheel combos, I would like to know what I should get in order to be prepared for my eventual motor output.

I don't know why I bother to explain myself to @ssholes, but maybe an adult will give me the answer I'm looking for.

[Thepedigree13]

I guess we figured most "adults" could read for themselves. Search the forum for a few hours, and you will find all your answers.

I have found that method to be more efficient with my time, then asking basic ass questions and waiting days for a response.

Get hpfp internals before you blow your shit. Cry baby.

[Vansquish]

Originally Posted by Triggerfish You losers can't answer a simple question without acting like you are god's gift to Mazda owners and the interwebs, insulting others to make your sorry asses feel better about your weak-ass selves. If you posted a bullshit response and if my opinion of you offends you, (deleted inappropriately used ellipses) good. I don't live at the car club, dyno shop, drag track or in front of this discussion board talking gearhead shit all the time. Nor do I have any idea (deleted "and") what mod does this or that. I've got a real career, children, and other interests. (The vast majority of us do too. Let's hear that tiny violin of yours play a little more.) I want my car faster and I'm currently shopping for a clutch (flywheel, PP, etc). Looking at advertised specs and opinions on holding power of certain clutch/flywheel combos, I would like to know what I should get in order to be prepared for my eventual motor output. (Then you should read some more. Surely, if you're a gearhead at all, then you must have some idea that outputs vary substantially between vehicles, and for each mod, particularly depending on the quality and aggressiveness of your tune.) I don't know why I bother to explain myself to assholes, but maybe an adult will give me the answer I'm looking for.

Suck it up, read, learn, or move the fuck along.

FWIW, here's one little nugget of wisdom for you: With the modifications you've listed, you will be well within the capabilities of the stock clutch. There's no point in upgrading until you're up over 400awhp/tq, and your car is not going to be within a country mile of that.

[Triggerfish]

"Thepedigree13" go f@ck yourself.

I look this discussion board over plenty, looking for answers and it takes hours and hours reading through idiots and @assholes' waste of time responses, like yours, to try and find the answers. If you would shut your trap and keep your worthless opinions, dribble, and insults to yourself, then people could wade through a lot faster to find what they're looking for.

And you're an idiot about efficiency. Search for hours is more efficient than typing up a question, leaving, and returning for an answer at my convenience?

If you could read, you would see that I already plan to get HPFP internals. Thanks for nothing.

[Vansquish]

Originally Posted by Triggerfish "Thepedigree13" go fuck yourself. I look this discussion board over plenty, looking for answers and it takes hours and hours reading through idiots and @assholes' waste of time responses, like yours, to try and find the answers. If you would shut your trap and keep your worthless opinions, dribble, and insults to yourself, then people could wade through a lot faster to find what they're looking for. And you're an idiot about efficiency. Search for hours is more efficient than typing up a question, leaving, and returning for an answer at my convenience? If you could read, you would see that I already plan to get HPFP internals. Thanks for nothing.

I'm enjoying your unnecessary censorsh@p.

[gdawg25]

What an @$$.

[Vansquish]

Originally Posted by gdawg25 What an @$$.

Probably only ever shops here:

[Thepedigree13]

So much @nger. I was genuinely trying to help.

[Vansquish]

Originally Posted by Thepedigree13 So much @nger. I was genuinely trying to help.

It's true, and now @Triggerfish; is busy stalking you and me instead of spending his time reading up on his car.

[sharksinspace]

More like Triggeredfish?

[MS3Shadow]

OP is like


sent from my Nexus 6P

[sheston]

@Triggerfish; if you are really trying to learn, you should try to figure out why you got the responses you did.... Not everyone is treated that way.

Plus, there are some genuine answers in amongst the poking fun. You don't talk a lot about your goals, hard to really answer without knowing that. You should buy a clutch for where you want to be

Another thing, you should get the HPFP internals installed before you do much more. There are lots of examples on this forum of folks wishing they had.

[5doorsoffury]

Battle my Virtual Dyno
Read......

[follman8r]

Just an FYI I have found the answer to your question in 15min on google using my phone.

Everyone here knows the search system is a pain in the dick. Just use google and it will probably direct you to the right thread here anyways.


sent using the long dick of the law

[MSMS3]

OP: Your AP datalog and Virtual Dyno. Now go fuck yourself for being stupid and lazy. Last help you should get until you at least fucking try. Don't lie to us about trying. Google with this group name in your query and you can find anything in minutes or less.

[KiwiFlavor]

D@mn D@n!elllllllll!!

[WetzMS3]

OP takes giant fucking cocks up his god damned gaping asshole and censors his little pussy mouth with another dick in it.

[ejb2112]

Originally Posted by Triggerfish I have a 2007 MS6 with: Cobb Accessport tuner AEM Cold air intake Corksport race-pipe and catback exhaust I will be adding: Corksport downpipe (probably catted, I've heard the difference in output between w/ cat and no cat is negligable. Please correct me if I'm wrong) Top mount intercooler (probably Corksport) Turbo inlet hose (probably Corksport) Fuel pump upgrade (probably Corksport) Cobb custom dyno tune from their shop in Orange County, CA I will be running on California 91 octane premium pump gas Please help me to estimate at the crank and at the wheel horsepower and torque numbers I can expect once all is said and done. Thank you! Jeff

Every car is very different, so it's really hard to give an estimate. So what I do is use the WOT log my tuner asked for (3rd gear from 3K RPM to 6.5K RPM) and load it into Virtual Dyno. While VDyno is far from perfect, it will give you a good idea of your wheel HP/torque specs. Of course, if you're getting dyno'd at Cobb, I guess this is all moot. But it might be interesting to compare the results.

VDyno is free and can be downloaded at Virtual Dyno

I'm sure you know this already, but please install the internals before doing anything else.

Also, you asked for both wheel and crank numbers. I believe for AWD, the difference is about 20%. So if you're hitting 240 WHP, your crank HP estimate would be around 300. Again, it's all kinda squishy and these are just general-direction type numbers.

Finally, you have to have a thick skin on this forum. Yeah, it can be annoying and there will always be smart-asses here (although I find them funny as hell), but they are easy to ignore. Just smile, move on to the next response, and don't take it personally.

[JakeMS3]

OP, I've been on here awhile and still learn new things all the time, but when I don't know something I always use google and search for what I need. Not everybody comes in here and asks their questions, which have already been answered, and expects us to feed them answers just so you can check back when its "convenient" for you. This isn't like most forums where it's flooded with ads and everyone has to play nice and get along and aren't able to freely express themselves. This place is by far the most resourceful site for these cars and you can gain a wealth of knowledge if you read and learn but don't expect to get away with asking questions like you did above. And lastly, don't become a douche canoe on here especially to senior members or prepared to get your couch fucked! Lay low, search and read before you get banned dude.

[follman8r]

Originally Posted by JakeMS3 douche canoe.

Lmfao

sent using the long dick of the law

[BuddySpeed3]

Originally Posted by Vansquish Suck it up, read, learn, or move the fuck along. FWIW, here's one little nugget of wisdom for you: With the modifications you've listed, you will be well within the capabilities of the stock clutch. There's no point in upgrading until you're up over 400awhp/tq, and your car is not going to be within a country mile of that.

Are u on luk/fidanza combo? It doesn't say in your signature.

How much awtq are u putting down?

[Djohns]

Saw the thread, came in ready for battle and realized it was just a bump with this question lol.

[Vansquish]

Originally Posted by BuddySpeed3 Are u on luk/fidanza combo? It doesn't say in your signature. How much awtq are u putting down?

141,000 miles on the OE clutch. The clutch has never been out of the car.

Look at my signature.

[BuddySpeed3]

Originally Posted by Vansquish 141,000 miles on the OE clutch. The clutch has never been out of the car. Look at my signature.

That is unbelievable man! No slippage at all?

If it does start to slip, what are you going to replace it with?

[MRR]

Originally Posted by Triggerfish "Thepedigree13" go f@ck yourself. I look this discussion board over plenty, looking for answers and it takes hours and hours reading through idiots and @assholes' waste of time responses, like yours, to try and find the answers. If you would shut your trap and keep your worthless opinions, dribble, and insults to yourself, then people could wade through a lot faster to find what they're looking for. And you're an idiot about efficiency. Search for hours is more efficient than typing up a question, leaving, and returning for an answer at my convenience? If you could read, you would see that I already plan to get HPFP internals. Thanks for nothing.

Just chill men, sometimes you get some wild answers from this forum but you will find that the answers to your question are already posted in the past. I l learnt a lot form this site.

Put all your mods together and just remember safety first, just ensure your engine is tuned properly (AFR, boost, FP, BAT, LTFT, and so on).Power wise, as mentioned, we don't know.... every engine is different. By experience, if you do it right, the results will put a smile on your face.

with your clutch, just replace it when it slips. I suggest you change all including fly wheel for longer life.

All the best.....

[Vansquish]

Originally Posted by BuddySpeed3 That is unbelievable man! No slippage at all? If it does start to slip, what are you going to replace it with?

I don't drive my car like an asshat, so I'm hoping to get another 10k out of it at least. Then I'll replace it (or possibly replace the car), with...


a stock clutch (or an RS).

[sheston]

How do asshat's drive? I drive it like I built it, guess that's probably like an asshat :-)

[Djohns]

Originally Posted by Vansquish I don't drive my car like an asshat, so I'm hoping to get another 10k out of it at least. Then I'll replace it (or possibly replace the car), with... a stock clutch (or an RS).

I'm weary of the RS. I hear the rear ends on those are garbage and cannot handle much more power than factory without blowing up.

[Rexagon]

Originally Posted by Triggerfish You losers can't answer a simple question without acting like you are god's gift to Mazda owners and the interwebs, insulting others to make your sorry asses feel better about your weak-ass selves. If you posted a bullsh@t response and if my opinion of you offends you... good. I don't live at the car club, dyno shop, drag track or in front of this discussion board talking gearhead shit all the time and what mod does this or that. I've got a real career, children, and other interests. I want my car faster and I'm currently shopping for a clutch (flywheel, PP, etc). Looking at advertised specs and opinions on holding power of certain clutch/flywheel combos, I would like to know what I should get in order to be prepared for my eventual motor output. I don't know why I bother to explain myself to @ssholes, but maybe an adult will give me the answer I'm looking for.

You can't come to msf expecting serious answers to questions already discussed. Everybody will learn this one day. But you also can't expect to be taken seriously after getting mad at the trolls, this only feeds them.