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 Old 04-12-2017, 11:43 PM   #1
 
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Previously posted earlier today here: What did you do to your ride today?
Figured I'd also drop it in the proper forum section to further discuss and see if I can get some more insight into the details of what I'm looking at and possibly discuss next steps/goals.

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Took her to get dyno'd this morning over by Travis over at Snail Performance in Rocklin. Super quick set up and it's pretty close to what I was seeing with Virtual Dyno. Well, at least I know what she's putting down from a legit source now.
Was really hoping that she was going to break the 300 mark. Well time to start thinking about how to achieve that.

What I didn't post in the other thread was a snapshot of my 3rd gear WOT log that I took a couple days prior. The two look fairly similar to me in terms of numbers, but I wanted to see if what I was doing was correct and it's nice to have some solid results from an actual dyno test.

With my current mods list I'm now wondering what my next steps should be. I'd like to go BT sometime this year and I've been holding out on pulling the trigger due to rumblings of BNR's new turbo that's currently in testing.
I started getting the BT itch close to a year ago and posted it up here: Got That BT Itch

I've had a couple people already say that I should look into E85, and it's worth noting that I do have access to E85 really close to where I live (less than a mile away), but work remotely and don't drive my car too frequently. So? Well, I can't remember where I heard it, but recall hearing that E85 doesn't sit too well in the tank for extended periods of time. To give you an idea: it's a 2012 that I bought used with only 9.9K miles on it in 2013 and now she's got 34.5K - I only filled up like 5 or 6 times last year. I maybe drive it once or twice a week at most and that's only locally around town. Really seeking some knowledge from some of the MSF sages here. Could I go E85 with a 50/50 mix, full E85 and just make sure to drop some fresh fuel in every so often, go meth, etc.? Just a bit confused as to where and what my next steps should be. I'd like to have her at 400+whp and ideally get another beater as my "daily."

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Buy an S4, run an E30 mix. It should be stable enough for long periods of time that it won't pull in a ton of water. If you're going to go more than a couple month between fill ups either don't top the tank off, just run like 2/3 of a tank or chuck in some fuel stabilizer.
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If your planning on going BT, you'll probably need more fuel. I'd go ahead and get wmi. I also add Meth 2gallons per tank to my gas. That way I only have to worry about keeping Meth in stock.

As far as letting it sit, our new E10 gas or whatever it is will cause problems if it sits too long. My buddy with a '72 vette has had to get the carburetor rebuilt several times due to the water absorption
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Originally Posted by Mazdazilla6 View Post
Buy an S4, run an E30 mix. It should be stable enough for long periods of time that it won't pull in a ton of water. If you're going to go more than a couple month between fill ups either don't top the tank off, just run like 2/3 of a tank or chuck in some fuel stabilizer.
Have eyeballed the S4 for the ease of access and straight adaptability, but am still highly curious to see what BNR's next turbo is going to pump out. Figure I've waited this long... I don't think I have access to E30 around me. Hell up until a couple days ago I didn't even know E30 was an option for the platform. I just thought it was 91, 93, or E85.

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If your planning on going BT, you'll probably need more fuel. I'd go ahead and get wmi. I also add Meth 2gallons per tank to my gas. That way I only have to worry about keeping Meth in stock.

As far as letting it sit, our new E10 gas or whatever it is will cause problems if it sits too long. My buddy with a '72 vette has had to get the carburetor rebuilt several times due to the water absorption
Have any WMI recommendations? Was looking at Snow but I don't see a Mazda kit.

Thanks to the both of you for popping in and giving some input. Please keep it coming. I'm always down to learn more and hear what others have to say.
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Originally Posted by PapaBruno View Post
Have eyeballed the S4 for the ease of access and straight adaptability, but am still highly curious to see what BNR's next turbo is going to pump out. Figure I've waited this long... I don't think I have access to E30 around me. Hell up until a couple days ago I didn't even know E30 was an option for the platform. I just thought it was 91, 93, or E85.
He's referring to mixing it yourself versus actual e30 straight from the pump.
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You won't have any issues letting it sit for a while. The worse case scenario is the car runs a little rough until you can get fresh gas in it. Nothing will get harmed. Carbs and older cars have issues with it because they have seals and other components that aren't rated to handle ethanol or alcohol.
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I run an E30 mix for extended periods (ride a motorcycle too a lot) and I have no issues even after a month of having the same fuel in tank. Mixing it yourself is easy at the pump, especially if the E source is close to your residence, don't even need to store it in the garage.

Also by the way, why wait for an S5 if you're not built yet? An S4 will take you into built motor/aux fuel territory.
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Just got off the phone with the folks from BNR. Their new turbo is being tested on a 2JZ right now and will be dyno'd tomorrow. It's still a ways out though, but they also said that if the engine isn't built that I'd probably be good to go with the S4. So maybe it would be more beneficial for my current goals to grab the S4, a new 3.5" or 4" intake, run E30 or E85, a new tune and some supporting mods then?
EDIT: The main thing that has really been keeping me from pulling the trigger on the S4 is the power cap. I don't want to hit it fast and then be stuck looking for more power.
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3.5" intake, BNR S4, and meth or E85 should take you close enough to 400 whp. You'll have to check yourself if there's enough fueling headroom for an E85 mix at 400 whp, because I don't know.

Or run meth and E85. 2 is better than 1.

I seriously doubt you're going to power cap the S4. It should be able to take you well into the mid 400's IF you have the fuel.
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