Auto-Merged Double Post

[06Speed6]

Once someone gets over a certain post number, what is the reason behind this? If there is some logic behind this feature, is there a way we could get the option to merge or not to merge a post?

why would u want 2 posts if they are consecutive of yourself anyway. its just unnecessary clutter and post numbers . are you a post whore?

[Speedie6]

Originally Posted by 18psiWhiteMS3 why would u want 2 posts if they are consecutive of yourself anyway. its just unnecessary clutter and post numbers . are you a post whore?

I've had people miss posts of mine because they thought they had read the post already. For example, I might post one day on an issue. Then sometime later, I might post an update. But, if no one had posted in between, it looks like one post if you don't look closely.

Further, I personally find it preferable to separate replies to different people in different posts. It might be the same thread, but, there can be "sub threads" so to speak in a thread, where different people are expressing their ideas, and I'd rather have my responses to each one separate.

[madvillain]

one of the biggest reasons is if you have a fs thread and need to bump it!

[Haltech]

There is no need to bump posts here.

[BacDoc]

As a n00b here I've found some of the post rules very irritating. I've tried to PM and post in several threads to buy stuff and I'm not allowed until some ridiculous amount of post. I understand why, but I think the system discourages a lot of users like myself. Just my opinion.

[DSIT995]

Originally Posted by BacDoc As a n00b here I've found some of the post rules very irritating. I've tried to PM and post in several threads to buy stuff and I'm not allowed until some ridiculous amount of post. I understand why, but I think the system discourages a lot of users like myself. Just my opinion.

In the end these rules are here to protect the users. At first I could see how it might discourage u but..... U can always donate to this site. Then u get instant access. Plus There's info here that u cant find anywhere else, and its worth it.

if someone were allowed to buy/sell stuff right away, I think u would see more problems and returns of parts. People buying then changing there mind. If ur going to buy a $500 used part off someone, just think of it like sale tax, $10 to donate to the site on time thats it.

[BacDoc]

Originally Posted by DSIT995 In the end these rules are here to protect the users. At first I could see how it might discourage u but..... U can always donate to this site. Then u get instant access. Plus There's info here that u cant find anywhere else, and its worth it. if someone were allowed to buy/sell stuff right away, I think u would see more problems and returns of parts. People buying then changing there mind. If ur going to buy a $500 used part off someone, just think of it like sale tax, $10 to donate to the site on time thats it.

I totally agree and didn't see the instant access option with donation. I moderate NASIOC, one of the largest message forums on the net I completely understand, yet I can see some users being frustrated with the double post rules outside of the sales. I like the site and it is very useful, I'll donate today. Thanks.

[tbot]

^^ what he said. I do understand why tho, but being recommended to come here in search of parts, it does make it rather difficult/discouraging. On the other hand, the double post merge...I know there have been times where no one has posted since the last time i did, and when I do post new info, say data logs, it merges and doesn't appear I added anything new.

[BacDoc]

Originally Posted by tbot ^^ what he said. I do understand why tho, but being recommended to come here in search of parts, it does make it rather difficult/discouraging. On the other hand, the double post merge...I know there have been times where no one has posted since the last time i did, and when I do post new info, say data logs, it merges and doesn't appear I added anything new.

Agreed. This system is seriously flawed for a message board. If I want to update or ask a question in a thread it never appears to be updated and sinks further away.

If you have major spam issues or post whoring you should have mods constantly viewing the boards for that stuff.

[doubleflusher]

I think the double post rule sucks, but it's a rule of the forum.

I can choose to not use this forum.

I also think that if someone double posts, they are to be warned, and eventually punished. Users need to be responsible and take responsibility for their own actions.

Don't be a cunt and double post to bump your for sale thread. If your shit isn't selling, it's because people don't want it or it costs too much.

Double posting is only effective, and welcomed, in the VIP section.

[DSIT995]

NASIOC thats a great site, im not a member but I have trolled threw it many times. Like the flashing lights u got now Mr VIP

[BacDoc]

Bling! Bling!


NASIOC is very unique. And unbelievable wealth of knowledge and comedy, but OT is not easily accessible. I've been trying to change the tone of OT to make it more user friendly.

[Haltech]

Ok, i made a few changes to the system in regards to this to see how it goes...

The whole purpose of this is to prevent two problems i saw here:

1) Post Whoring - To gain access to FS area
2) Abusive Post Bumping

Ive set a post to be merged within 10 minutes. After 10 minutes, it will now be a separate post. The second thing i added is that when a post IS merged within that 10 min period, the post with be auto bumped as if there was a new post.

Lets see how this works out for you guys now.

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by Speedie6 I've had people miss posts of mine because they thought they had read the post already. For example, I might post one day on an issue. Then sometime later, I might post an update. But, if no one had posted in between, it looks like one post if you don't look closely. Further, I personally find it preferable to separate replies to different people in different posts. It might be the same thread, but, there can be "sub threads" so to speak in a thread, where different people are expressing their ideas, and I'd rather have my responses to each one separate.

I had the exact same issue...

Originally Posted by Haltech Ok, i made a few changes to the system in regards to this to see how it goes... The whole purpose of this is to prevent two problems i saw here: 1) Post Whoring - To gain access to FS area 2) Abusive Post Bumping Ive set a post to be merged within 10 minutes. After 10 minutes, it will now be a separate post. The second thing i added is that when a post IS merged within that 10 min period, the post with be auto bumped as if there was a new post. Lets see how this works out for you guys now.

That's a great idea, thanks!

[tbot]

^^that sounds perfect to me! I agree w/ merging posts if they're made right after each other, but like I said, I've made posts to threads a day or more later that were merged...that didn't make sense to me. Again, I like the new setup!!! Thanks for at least hearing us out and looking to provide a solution, as a newbie here, that shows me u have at least SOME respect for your users

[doubleflusher]

Originally Posted by tbot ^^that sounds perfect to me! I agree w/ merging posts if they're made right after each other, but like I said, I've made posts to threads a day or more later that were merged...that didn't make sense to me. Again, I like the new setup!!! Thanks for at least hearing us out and looking to provide a solution, as a newbie here, that shows me u have at least SOME respect for your users

Haltech maintains this site in his free time and makes no profit from it.

After you are here for longer, you'll see more gestures like this from him.

Now you may consider donating to this site of awesomeness.

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...donation&id=20

[BacDoc]

Originally Posted by doubleflusher Haltech maintains this site in his free time and makes no profit from it. After you are here for longer, you'll see more gestures like this from him. Now you may consider donating to this site of awesomeness. http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...donation&id=20

I'm already in for $35.

And there's nothing wrong about making a profit from your sponsors and donors. This site provides some value to it's users and vendors.

[Haltech]

I respect all of my users... But we also have rules in place to protect users. But unlike other forums, we listen and care.

[BacDoc]

Originally Posted by Haltech I respect all of my users... But we also have rules in place to protect users. But unlike other forums, we listen and care.

Well played. I understand this site is more than a toy for you, it's an investment and the number one priority is to serve and protect, if you will. Compromising for the greater whole is what's it's about and hopefully you have proper forum moderation to catch and correct abuse.

My earlier criticism was merely constructive insight from someone who knows and understands how these things work. Thanks!

[djuosnteisn]

Thanks for finally addressing this Hal!

It makes some of the more technical threads much more effective IMO. Giant thank you.

[ETERNAL]

Nice to see this adressed. I post post after post sometimes ad I think of new things. I understand that being merged. But if I have my own thread and something changes its nice for it to be a new thread.

[Speedie6]

Thanks for the changes. I have a suggestion for Hal's consideration. I don't personally understand post whoring, I couldn't care less what my post counts are. But, if that is a concern, as a suggestion, make consecutive posts not count towards a post count, regardless of whether they get merged or not. Even if its days or weeks later, if they are consecutive they don't add to post counts. Just an idea.