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JBR 11-03-2010 05:40 AM

04' - 09' (GEN 1) MAZDA 3 and MAZDASPEED 3 Mud Flaps In Stock!!
 
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$95 Shipped!!
Mounting hardware included.


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Sacrilicious 11-03-2010 05:43 AM

nice! can you clarify if the install requires you to drill out the rivets like the rally armor flaps require?

SIXual Panda 11-03-2010 05:56 AM

would these fit speed6's?

JBR 11-03-2010 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sacrilicious (Post 601859)
nice! can you clarify if the install requires you to drill out the rivets like the rally armor flaps require?

They do require the removal of the rivets. I chose to use the existing locations for mounting instead of having two additional holes drilled for the outer mounting points. The rivets are aluminum and come out with very little effort.

Thanks,
Jamie

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixual panda (Post 601874)
would these fit speed6's?

Unfortunately no. I may make up some for the MS6 but that would be after the 2010-11 MS3 flaps are done. I also have rear motor mounts and sway bars for the MS3 in testing now and shift knobs in production so I have a bit on my plate.

Thanks,
Jamie

Sacrilicious 11-03-2010 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jbarone (Post 601894)
I also have rear motor mounts and sway bars for the MS3 in testing now and shift knobs in production so I have a bit on my plate.

Thanks,
Jamie

oh sweet! what kind of bushings are you using for the RMM? epdm or urethane?

JBR 11-03-2010 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sacrilicious (Post 601907)
oh sweet! what kind of bushings are you using for the RMM? epdm or urethane?

I chose to use urethane. Urethane has been around since the 40's and is the most durable and common polymer used for suspension bushings in the automotive industry. It's resistant to oil and fuel among other things where EDPM is not. In the automotive industry EDPM is widely used for weather stripping but no where have I found that it's commonly used for bushing applications. I've chosen to use a durometer of 70a only in my mounts at this time. This should provide a happy medium between the popular 65a and 75a bushings currently available. The company manufacturing the bushings for me has produced bushings for Boeing, Toyota and NASA as well as host of other well known companies.

Needles to say this is one part I'm very excited about.

Thanks,
Jamie

TRex 11-03-2010 07:45 AM

ETA on RMM and sway bars?

Sacrilicious 11-03-2010 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbarone (Post 602022)
I chose to use urethane. Urethane has been around since the 40's and is the most durable and common polymer used for suspension bushings in the automotive industry. It's resistant to oil and fuel among other things where EDPM is not. In the automotive industry EDPM is widely used for weather stripping but no where have I found that it's commonly used for bushing applications. I've chosen to use a durometer of 70a only in my mounts at this time. This should provide a happy medium between the popular 65a and 75a bushings currently available. The company manufacturing the bushings for me has produced bushings for Boeing, Toyota and NASA as well as host of other well known companies.

Needles to say this is one part I'm very excited about.

Thanks,
Jamie

well, the OEM bushings are all epdm (or some other flavor of rubber). i like it more than urethane simply because it ends up being more comfortable than urethane. ya, i know it's not necessarily the bleeding edge of performance, but then again, my car's DD value is very important to me, so that's why i've always liked the cpe RMM.

regardless, as long as you use a large bushing, it should be a lot more comfortable than mounts like the TRZ...:D

JBR 11-03-2010 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRex (Post 602048)
ETA on RMM and sway bars?

Both will be available by the end of the year.

Thanks,
Jamie

JBR 11-03-2010 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sacrilicious (Post 602052)
well, the OEM bushings are all epdm (or some other flavor of rubber). i like it more than urethane simply because it ends up being more comfortable than urethane. ya, i know it's not necessarily the bleeding edge of performance, but then again, my car's DD value is very important to me, so that's why i've always liked the cpe RMM.

regardless, as long as you use a large bushing, it should be a lot more comfortable than mounts like the TRZ...:D

Agreed...EDPM may be a bit more comfortable but 70a is 70a when it comes right down to hardness. Also my business is small and I wanted to go with a proven material. The bushing is very large too.

Thanks,
Jamie

Sacrilicious 11-03-2010 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jbarone (Post 602096)
Agreed...EDPM may be a bit more comfortable but 70a is 70a when it comes right down to hardness. Also my business is small and I wanted to go with a proven material. The bushing is very large too.

Thanks,
Jamie

from trying out a number of commonly-available RMMs, i have found that hardness only makes up a part of the equation. elasticity also comes into play, and because epdm has higher elasticity, it helps to make a given hardness of bushing feel more comfortable than a equal hardness urethane bushing.

all that aside, though, i definitely agree that since your business is small, the risk of going with epdm is probably too much. cpe has had to deal with a number of epdm-related bushing consistency problems, and i don't imagine that's something you could easily handle (financially) as a small business owner. once you establish your mounts, though, i'd love to see an epdm offering if you ever feel up to the task...:D

JBR 11-03-2010 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sacrilicious (Post 602127)
once you establish your mounts, though, i'd love to see an epdm offering if you ever feel up to the task...:D

I will see if the molds I'm currently using will work with EDPM, if so then I'll get some poured. If not, I'll need to wait and get a new test mold tooled. I'm sure that the two cure differently so I think It's unlikely my molds will work but I will check in to it. The investment in tooling alone is huge but they are paid for.

TRex 11-03-2010 08:47 AM

man....i dont know if i could ever start a business...i mean shit how do you get this stuff made? do you just go around to shops and say hey i want to make this and here is the interest? seems you can make a huge amount of money if you are good but the risk is giant!

haha anyway cant wait for the RMM was looking for a slightly cheaper alternative to the cp-e one and 70 is awsome because i have been stuck between 65 and 75 myself....i can haz RMM and SSP bundle pack =D

JBR 11-03-2010 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TRex (Post 602207)
man....i dont know if i could ever start a business...i mean shit how do you get this stuff made? do you just go around to shops and say hey i want to make this and here is the interest? seems you can make a huge amount of money if you are good but the risk is giant!

haha anyway cant wait for the RMM was looking for a slightly cheaper alternative to the cp-e one and 70 is awsome because i have been stuck between 65 and 75 myself....i can haz RMM and SSP bundle pack =D

You have no idea how many sleepless nights I've had. Shops don't really care what they make as long as they get paid so research in to the demand is key. So yes when you shell out 3-5K to get a part made the risk is huge. But that's all part of the fun and as long as this is fun for me I'll keep making some new stuff.

Jamie

jack_hammer 11-03-2010 10:14 AM

if you need a sway bar tester, let me know.

TRex 11-03-2010 11:01 AM

ditto...im local even =D (st. louis)...but i know you got a bunch of dudes down near you

spec2k5 11-17-2010 10:40 AM

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I ordered mud flaps from Jamie as soon as he released them on his website. I have had them on for a few weeks now, and I gotta say, they are great. They are thick and very durable. I have bottomed out a few times, and they are holding up without as much as a mark on them. I recently got a garage and the first time I pulled in (its on quite a hill and I had to build up the drive to get it in) I did not have the drive high enough. The front flaps caught on the floor of the garage and almost bent in half. I was thinking I broke them, but pulled back out of the garage and they are still perfect. Great job Jamie on another fantastic product. Sorry for the crappy pics.

Chief_Wiggum 12-13-2010 06:14 AM

After this weekend's snow; these tie with my weathertech floor mats as my favorite 'winter-specific' modification. They've managed to keep the side of my car 1000% cleaner than last winter.

mroclimbr 02-24-2011 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by spec2k5 (Post 620213)
I ordered mud flaps from Jamie as soon as he released them on his website. I have had them on for a few weeks now, and I gotta say, they are great. They are thick and very durable. I have bottomed out a few times, and they are holding up without as much as a mark on them. I recently got a garage and the first time I pulled in (its on quite a hill and I had to build up the drive to get it in) I did not have the drive high enough. The front flaps caught on the floor of the garage and almost bent in half. I was thinking I broke them, but pulled back out of the garage and they are still perfect. Great job Jamie on another fantastic product. Sorry for the crappy pics.

Why is your floor plywood?

spec2k5 02-24-2011 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mroclimbr (Post 743939)
Why is your floor plywood?

It's a shed. Not really a garage...hence the wood floor.

dizzydtrain 02-24-2011 07:54 PM

Jamie, I dig those red JB decals. Do those come with the guards? I wouldn't mind having those on my car.

JBR 02-25-2011 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzydtrain (Post 744062)
Jamie, I dig those red JB decals. Do those come with the guards? I wouldn't mind having those on my car.

No, but I could include a pair for you.

Chief_Wiggum 02-25-2011 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by spec2k5 (Post 744036)
It's a shed. Not really a garage...hence the wood floor.

wood floor burnouts FTW!

spec2k5 02-25-2011 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief_Wiggum (Post 744404)
wood floor burnouts FTW!

mmmmm......burnt rubber and burnt wood smell good together. Almost sounds like I need to use more lube :clit:


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