The Big Turbo Progress Thread

[SpeedSixxx]

dude the GT3071 I traded you..the turbine housing broke of the exhaust mani turbine inlet?

[dizzin9]

car is running strong @ wg pressure, untuned. i'm getting some NASTY backfires here and there lol. looking forward for meth + pro tune.

[www.cp-e.com]

I like this thread. Most of the guys who said they werent making the switch did make it I really have enjoyed working with all of you and can't wait for track times!

[zx2man]

Originally Posted by dizzin9 car is running strong @ wg pressure, untuned. i'm getting some NASTY backfires here and there lol. looking forward for meth + pro tune.

I cant wait either cant wait to see some respectable #'s and safe tune.

I see both you and Brian running the PG ewg mani, does that really fix the boost creep issue with the Gt series turbos?

[dizzin9]

Originally Posted by zx2man I cant wait either cant wait to see some respectable #'s and safe tune. I see both you and Brian running the PG ewg mani, does that really fix the boost creep issue with the Gt series turbos?

i think if u run an ewg that pretty much eliminates boost creep

[ATE BALLER]

I'm so close I can taste it! Still need to...

reconnect motor mount
install screen filter
test fit everything once again
possibly modify downpipe
coat/bake manifold
install manifold
install EGT gauge/probe
install wg
modify dump pipe
install dump pipe
install ic
double check belt tension
charge/install battery
refill oil/antifreeze

The list seems pretty long, but it's really not too bad. If I weren't hung up on the motor mount last night, I would've gotten about half of that done. It sucks trying to install shit with broken fillangies

[Speedkid]

Do anybody know if a gt35r will fit in stock location?

[madvillain]

Originally Posted by Speedkid Do anybody know if a gt35r will fit in stock location?

Yes, an ATP gt35 will fit in stock location, with stock exhaust and manifold flange.

[SpeedSixxx]

Originally Posted by Speedkid Do anybody know if a gt35r will fit in stock location?

yes it will and I have one for sale if you want it

[spnkr21]

WTF?

[www.cp-e.com]

go t3 .82 housings please

[madvillain]

Originally Posted by www.cp-e.com go t3 .82 housings please

Setting your views of RR aside, and mine too, you know my manifold and t4/.82 turbo is going to flow really well... I know you're excited to tune me, I know it.

[Speedkid]

Originally Posted by madvillain Yes, an ATP gt35 will fit in stock location, with stock exhaust and manifold flange.

So the gt35 should fit just wanted to make sure because ken told me a 70a/r turbo wouldn't fit.

[SpeedSixxx]

Originally Posted by Speedkid So the gt35 should fit just wanted to make sure because ken told me a 70a/r turbo wouldn't fit.

you have things all wrong my friend.

an ATP GT35r thats made for our cars comes with a .50 A/R compressor housing.

the "real" T3 gt35r comes with a "real" .70 A/R compressor housing BUT it doesnt fit on our stock placement manifold like the ATP one does.

if you buy ATP GT35r it will fit, if you buy a T3 35r it does come with .70 A/R but you will need a custom manifold to make it work.

again I have a ATP 35R for sale.

if you're looking for more power on stock block ATP is the way to go honestly althought CP-E and everyone else will tell you to go T3 there is NO point in doing this if you are not built and mot looking to make some BIG numbers.

CP-E is more then right that the T3 is way better then the ATP but it's much easier to just use ATP.

[madvillain]

I agree with Sixxx, t3 is preferred but if you're like myself and are not trying to go for 500whp, the atp turbo will do just fine.. and it will end up costing you half of the money and a tenth of the time. If I were to go back and do it over I would have probably just gotten an atp 35r

[www.cp-e.com]

Originally Posted by madvillain I agree with Sixxx, t3 is preferred but if you're like myself and are not trying to go for 500whp, the atp turbo will do just fine.. and it will end up costing you half of the money and a tenth of the time. If I were to go back and do it over I would have probably just gotten an atp 35r

Originally Posted by madvillain I agree with Sixxx, t3 is preferred but if you're like myself and are not trying to go for 500whp, the atp turbo will do just fine.. and it will end up costing you half of the money and a tenth of the time. If I were to go back and do it over I would have probably just gotten an atp 35r

I am very confused by you. The turbo you have is a 700whp turbo yet you say your not going for 500?

I am excited to tune anyone. All opinions aside of a company - the t4 turbo you picked is too large for this car. A t3 housing would have been much better suited. We can make power but its going to be a dyno queen type of power.

The ATP turbos will not flow the amount of air required to hit what the t3 counterparts are known to make. 35r's are for 500-600whp. 3076 is for 450-500. 3071 is for 390-440.

The ATP versions of these turbos will have less peak numbers as a result of the size of the back housing.

[MarkyMark]

Originally Posted by madvillain I agree with Sixxx, t3 is preferred but if you're like myself and are not trying to go for 500whp, the atp turbo will do just fine.. and it will end up costing you half of the money and a tenth of the time. If I were to go back and do it over I would have probably just gotten an atp 35r

Lol, why did you buy that kit again?

T4 housing are for supras, stroked EVO's and crazy sum-bitches named SUMark.

[www.cp-e.com]

Hi markus...vegas next week. Do it!

[spnkr21]

Here is an update for everyone. Did a pull at 21psi today with my ritard ATP housing. And let me just say that this thing fuckin hammers. Jake is tuning this for me as we speak. Cant wait to see what he can do. AS soon as it's done being tuned I'm going to the same dyno I went to last time. Let the fun begin.

[madvillain]

haha don't judge me you two. I wAntz teh big turbo, I don't know why but I do. maybe I'll change my mind down the road, but from driving the car the little that I have, I am in love. I really don't see the powerband being a problem.. it spooled a lot quicker than I expected

[www.cp-e.com]

Originally Posted by www.cp-e.com Hi markus...vegas next week. Do it!

That goes for anyone near vegas. Dustin will be there as well!

My bachelor party is in vegas April 16-19. Feel free to show up and get "d" with me as joe would say.

Thread jack over. It was a worthy cause for a thread jack.

[djuosnteisn]

Vegas puts the D in Dustin

[dead-zone]

I see people with speed3s with 370ish whp and so on.How does the car handle so much power on the front wheels?Well ofcourse you change springs,wheels but still.Do spin tires like crazy?

[www.cp-e.com]

Originally Posted by djuosnteisn Vegas puts the D in Dustin

Do other things put their D in Dustin?

[djuosnteisn]

Only Vegas...


And you seem awfully curious for a man who's about to be wed...

[SpeedSixxx]

Originally Posted by www.cp-e.com The ATP turbos will not flow the amount of air required to hit what the t3 counterparts are known to make. 35r's are for 500-600whp. 3076 is for 450-500. 3071 is for 390-440. The ATP versions of these turbos will have less peak numbers as a result of the size of the back housing.

jake I'm sorry but we all know this info and we all agree obviously but why continue to mention these facts over and over again like you hate ATP with a passion you must try and steer all away from them.

the thing is, the kid asked if a 35r would fit in stock placement. yes it does, from ATP.

If you have a stock block and you don't plan on making huge numbers and you want a fast simple un bolt and bolt on turbo solution then the ATP IS THE WAY TO GO no doubt about it.

IMO it is wrong to try and steer all away from the ATP turbos just cause the T3's make more peak power. not everyone is trying to max out their turbo.

no disrespect Jake, that was like the 5th time ive seen you just mention how the T3 is better then the ATP for this and that reason but what was asked was will a specific turbo fit in STOCK location and sorry brah, but T3 just doesnt fit that bill without spending more money.

much love Jakey Jake. no hate

[dizzin9]

anybody hit 450whp yet? no? oh ok.

[kilik2]

Does this mean the race for power is on again? Who is issuing challenges and who are the competitors?

Where is my Don King hairpiece?

[cageyvet]

tuning time when I get back in town

[www.cp-e.com]

We have already hit 450whp. Shop cars just don't get advertised as they are typically just for testing.

Speedsixxx - you're right - it won't fit in stock location but enough of the "stock location stuff" - have a manifold made so that you guys who are going big turbo can actually make the numbers they should make. Who cares if it sits 1/2" different than stock location. Your pistons and rods aren't in stock location in anymore. They are in some box somewhere because the stock setup sucked!!!

[dizzin9]

dyno sheets? vids?

[kilik2]

good luck barking up that tree dizzin.

[dizzin9]

i'm just sick and tired of this "big power" yet there's no legitimate proof of one. 450whp isn't even all that powerful.

[www.cp-e.com]

Originally Posted by dizzin9 i'm just sick and tired of this "big power" yet there's no legitimate proof of one. 450whp isn't even all that powerful.

Re-read what I wrote. We do NOT use shop cars for advertising these kind of things.

450whp is considered big on this platform as no one else has been able to achieve it. The only reason more hasn't been accomplished is because we haven't had anyone with a turbo bigger than a 3076 (and t3 not ATP) get on a dyno. Currently there are a few out there. Many people still run ATP turbos which just won't make the big numbers. A few customers have true T3 gt series turbos and once they are ready to tune I will have them running what ever numbers their turbos can support.

The second there is a real t3 turbo on a customers car ready to be tuned I will post up the big numbers. Till then huff and puff. I am not here to BS or drag shit out. I am here to help people who aren't full of shit and wan't big power to make it. It requires the flashes, the standback (pnp optional), and a turbo that can actually flow (.78 or bigger a/r turbine housing would be nice). The .55 ATP turbos will make decent power but a .55 a/r turbine housing on a 3076 will NOT make the 450-475 that a 3076 is known to make.

Dizzin - you are in NC. If you are running a big turbo - bring it up - I will do your flashes, sb install, tune for free. Now if its an ATP don't expect to make power in the 450+ range but I will make the power those turbos are capable of flowing. Once you see it in front of you and drive the car - then we can settle a bill. Whining won't get you anywhere. If you want to see the numbers do something about it. Make your car fast.

[spnkr21]

Dizzi I got a fast car. It's tuned by Jake. 40-140 video today after work. Stay tuned for the FAST. Pulled away from a vette last night. I consider that pretty good

[SpeedSixxx]

jake u tune dizzin for free but not my friend?

[Fagwagon]

cpe is now giving out free flashes, tuning and bjs in exchange for a little whining...havnt you heard?

[spnkr21]

I don't think dizzi has BT that's prolly why he offered

[xcoldricex]

Originally Posted by www.cp-e.com That goes for anyone near vegas. Dustin will be there as well! My bachelor party is in vegas April 16-19. Feel free to show up and get "d" with me as joe would say. Thread jack over. It was a worthy cause for a thread jack.

fail, i'll be there the fuckin' week after.

[www.cp-e.com]

Originally Posted by SpeedSixxx jake u tune dizzin for free but not my friend?

I said if he brought me a setup that is capable of making power i would tune him for free. THEN when the session is over we will put together a bill for him to pay. Essentially saying that if it doesnt make the power id flash him back to stock and he can go his merry way.

The point is a 2871 can't make big numbers regardless of the tuning. It can only flow so much air to make so much power. The atp turbos can only flow so much air because of their small back housings. As a result they will not make the power that their t3 counter parts are known to make.