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Default Broke ass turbo forced my hand

At 105,000 miles on a turbo I have pushed hard it's entire life, The oil seals took a massive dump after tracking at VIR. I have been reluctant to go BT because of tracking the vehicle. I decided to put the BNR3 in and through tuning get more HP and push back the TQ a little.

Anyway here she is... The install is tomorrow so more picks coming. Also purchased a Cobb 3port Boost solenoid

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good luck mounting that boost solenoid, I caved in and put it in the stock location because of the short wire, however cant do that with the BNR
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My BNR goes in on Friday.

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Good Luck with the install. Mine went pretty smooth. Just take your time and you will be fine.
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I'll be there around ten. Looking forward to this install day.
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good shit looks awesome!
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Nice! I'm thinking about picking up one! Haven't decided between that or a 3071 yet
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Good luck......hey i dont no if you ant to try but ive seen a couple of people install these without removing the manifold.
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Good luck with the install. This is the route that i have recently planned to go! Definitely try and take as many pics as you can!
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fuck. I want mine, Im tired of waiting.
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fuck. I want mine, Im tired of waiting.
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Good luck......hey i dont no if you ant to try but ive seen a couple of people install these without removing the manifold.
I gonna try to leave the DP and Manifold in place.
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Kick arse, Jeff. You know you're not sad the K04 crapped the bed. Hope you guys have fun puttin' it in. With as much wrenchin' experience as you've had, it shouldn't take long.
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Fuck Jarrett. I saw his Wifes Black baby daddy yesterday at Best Buy. Actually I saw Jarrett with his wife and kid at the same best buy over the HOlidays. I wanted to say something to that fagget but I was working so I let that nigga slide and didnt say anything to him...he didnt see me.

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I gonna try to leave the DP and Manifold in place.
I'm putting in a new DP anyways so my turbo is coming out the bottom.
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So just under six hours and shes in... Very light drive after and smoked like a banshee at first. Clearing the massive amounts of oil out. I need some plugs in her now and @rfinkle2; is sending me a base map. Here are some pics.


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Did take the exhaust manifold off and it was a little bitch. Also mounted my Cobb three port which is a nice little piece.
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everyone said the S3 is a k04 with 2871 internals, this clearly isnt a k04's housing - whatsthe same, the exhaust side b/c the compressor side is clearly bigger...
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everyone said the S3 is a k04 with 2871 internals, this clearly isnt a k04's housing - whatsthe same, the exhaust side b/c the compressor side is clearly bigger...
That's what I was just trying to figure out.
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everyone said the S3 is a k04 with 2871 internals, this clearly isnt a k04's housing - whatsthe same, the exhaust side b/c the compressor side is clearly bigger...
@Todd98SE; has spoken with Bryan of BNR and knows the details.

I believe he mentioned that he switches the housing to a Mitsu. model
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@Todd98SE; has spoken with Bryan of BNR and knows the details.

I believe he mentioned that he switches the housing to a Mitsu. model.
Yes it's new internals and a hatachi housing.
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Yes it's new internals and a hatachi housing.
AHHH.. Yes Hitachi, not Mitsubishi. Thanks Jeff. I'm getting old and can't remember these things like I used to. LOL
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@Todd98SE; has spoken with Bryan of BNR and knows the details.

I believe he mentioned that he switches the housing to a Mitsu. model
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Yes the S3 uses a machined K04 turbine housing and a GT2871 compressor in a larger Hitachi housing. I'm not sure what turbine wheel it uses but it is larger and flows more than the K04 turbine wheel. I believe it also uses a Garrett CHRA but not 100% on that.
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Yes the S3 uses a machined K04 turbine housing and a GT2871 compressor in a larger Hitachi housing. I'm not sure what turbine wheel it uses but it is larger and flows more than the K04 turbine wheel.
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All of this, and neither one of us sustained any serious hand injuries!!! Winning!!

We were beginning the turbo install by lunch. Had a blast. Learned a lot wif mah hands.

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All of this, and neither one of us sustained any serious hand injuries!!! Winning!!

We were beginning the turbo install by lunch. Had a blast. Learned a lot wif mah hands.

G35 sedan tried to Fuck with us while we were out for the test drive. If he only knew what could've happened to him...

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OK NEED help and advise.

Started using oil after VIR. No real smoking issue except maybe a tuff on heavy accel.

Monitored and added oil as needed.

Replaced PCV valve and oil consumption increased exponentially 1 qt per 100 miles or so.
Massive amounts of oil in the turbo, innercooler, hot pipe, cold pipe, and intake

Replaced turbo

Now a lot of oil smoke from the exhaust 60 miles put on since turbo installed. NO oil in innercooler or upper pipes. Keeps fouling #2 plug. Swapped plug and coil with Number 3 still threw an p0302 after 20 miles or so. Smokes at idle, under light load (climbing a hill), a little under light bost and more when letting of of light boost (8 sec worth). I can drive about 25-30 miles before fouling #2
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Compression and leak down test #2 , valve guide perhaps?
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Did you ensure there was no obstruction in the turbo drain line?

How is the plug fouling - is there oil residue on the plug?
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Sounds exactly what was happening with my old bmw jeff.

But mine was because it was pouring to much fuel into the cylinders.
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Did you ensure there was no obstruction in the turbo drain line?

How is the plug fouling - is there oil residue on the plug?
First #2 before turbo had a lot of oil residue.

Since then two plugs put in and black and wet. I think its oil, does not smell of fuel.

YEs checked obstructions in feed and return

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Sounds exactly what was happening with my old bmw jeff.

But mine was because it was pouring to much fuel into the cylinders.

Well and that was another thought that maybe the injector is hung. I get no other codes though. just p0302 after driving 20 miles.
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First #2 before turbo had a lot of oil residue.

Since then two plugs put in and black and wet. I think its oil, does not smell of fuel.

YEs checked obstructions in feed and return




Well and that was another thought that maybe the injector is hung. I get no other codes though. just p0302 after driving 20 miles.
The plugs often get oil on the threads, as a matter of fact, Dj reports his plugs are wet in both his 3 & 6 and another guy recently was concerned about the same thing and has had no problems.

I don't think it is enough to throw a code, but some wet plugs is not necassarily related the issue.
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Good luck......hey i dont no if you ant to try but ive seen a couple of people install these without removing the manifold.
I have done it that way twice. You have to remove the downpipe and you have to bend the metal lip at the bottom slightly while shoving the turbo in. Just make sure that you have the coolant return coolant line and vaccum hose installed before you slide it in to save time.

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OK NEED help and advise.

Started using oil after VIR. No real smoking issue except maybe a tuff on heavy accel.

Monitored and added oil as needed.

Replaced PCV valve and oil consumption increased exponentially 1 qt per 100 miles or so.
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Replaced turbo

Now a lot of oil smoke from the exhaust 60 miles put on since turbo installed. NO oil in innercooler or upper pipes. Keeps fouling #2 plug. Swapped plug and coil with Number 3 still threw an p0302 after 20 miles or so. Smokes at idle, under light load (climbing a hill), a little under light bost and more when letting of of light boost (8 sec worth). I can drive about 25-30 miles before fouling

Ouch bro. Have you done a compression and a leakdown test? It sounds like you have high crankcase pressure.
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Well I'm done for the day. I was going to drive her to work to do compression/leak down test but it's smoking so bad now it will not make the trip. Plug fouled with in 10 miles.

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When and what injector seals do you have Jeff.
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I feel your pain. I have the P0304 code. My gas mileage and power took a hug crap on me. With my luck one of my valves is stuck or burned. :-(

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When and what injector seals do you have Jeff.
Stock oem since birth. Never changed
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Worth looking at too, but the compression and leakdown test will show that. No KR in logs right?
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Didn't somebody crack a ringland at the track before and start burning shit tons of oil like this?
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Worth looking at too, but the compression and leakdown test will show that. No KR in logs right?
Not recently, but since I started using massive amounts of oil I get alot of part throttle knock. I figured due to oil inthe cyl. I have not hit wot in a couple weeks.
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