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A.John/PT-P doubts this car can make 600whp...I disagree
B. I think it can be done with the proper turbo (T3 PTE 6262 .82a/r)
C. John pays for said turbo, with condition that i must have more than one dyno pass with at least 600 whp within 30 days or I eat the cost of the turbo. Car will be dynoe'd on a dynojet.




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hahahaha!!! 600whp? mark your calendars!

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Just get it done without any fights or arguments. Yay?
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AWESOME, i have a feeling cagey won't be paying john back for that turbo! Good luck i am subscribing to this
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hope so! who's tuning? fly jake out to houston?
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Ill be tuning the car but i will have input from dustin and jake
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Is that 600whp uncorrected? SAE? STD? dynojet/mustang?
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SAE, STD were agreed upon as long as a crazy correction factor like 1.1 is not used.
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Oh my.. USS Failboat on the horizon. No ones hit 500 and you want to go for 600? What are you going to do about the fuel and mass air?
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Oh my.. USS Failboat on the horizon. No ones hit 500 and you want to go for 600? What are you going to do about the fuel and mass air?
this is what i thought. but hey, at least there's a push to push the platform... all for the cost of a turbo, not too shabby.

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Oh my.. USS Failboat on the horizon. No ones hit 500 and you want to go for 600? What are you going to do about the fuel and mass air?
If i need to run a 4" intake i will and i will have the maf tables scaled accordingly

As far as fuel is concerned i dont forsee it being an issue but I can always run another meth kit and use the pro fuel controller.

I'm sourcing a larger thottle body, in addition to another intake manifold.

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Now this is exciting, props to cageyvet for having the balls to put his car on the line, and huge props to John for putting the money up! Anxiously awaiting reults.
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Awesome! Cant wait to see this unfold!
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i know you have 30 days, but when are you looking to get down and dirty with this big ol snail?
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Fucking win. Do it cagey!
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You're going to need a bigger MAP sensor too i would think.
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You're going to need a bigger MAP sensor too i would think.

No, b/c im not using the stock boost control system

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in before fail.
prove me wrong cage.
also, try not to suck any dick on your way to the parking lot.
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Is a free turbo really worth the cost of a $5k engine rebuild?
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his engine is already built.
are you implying otherwise?
or did you not know that?
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Originally Posted by phillyb View Post
his engine is already built.
are you implying otherwise?
or did you not know that?
I'm saying he's going to lift his head trying this. If it takes 28psi to hit 420WHP, what's it going to take to hit 600? 40psi?
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Damn, 600..that's balls for you. Shit, I'd try to bolt another speed 3 engine to the rear wheels....lol 2 engines ftw, I'm just saying. 500+awhp...
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28 psi on one turbo is different than 28 psi on a much larger turbo.
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Originally Posted by JumpingJackson View Post
28 psi on one turbo is different than 28 psi on a much larger turbo.
No shit, but have you ever seen how much boost it takes to hit 600WHP even on a large turbo? Typically it's in the 30-32psi range.

Now add the fact that the MS3 for some reason requires way more than any other engine out there to make the same power...say goodbye to those headstuds at the very least.
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Originally Posted by SRTie4k View Post
No shit, but have you ever seen how much boost it takes to hit 600WHP even on a large turbo? Typically it's in the 30-32psi range.

Now add the fact that the MS3 for some reason requires way more than any other engine out there to make the same power...say goodbye to those headstuds at the very least.
This is misinformation
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Originally Posted by cageyvet View Post
This is misinformation
Whatever man. Good luck anyways, you're going to need it. I hope for your sake you won't have to eat the price of that turbo and a new engine, but I guess someone eventually has to try.
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BTW, for reference on other cars running the same turbo:

power pages - Evo 9 + ETS PT6262 turbo kit

Topspeed Tuned - Precision 6262 in Built LegacyGT - NASIOC

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Perhaps, we should seek guidance from the most prominent ms3 owner in north america?

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