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__________________ 500awhp 440awtq uncorrected ![]() EFR8374 ms6, no meth, 50/50 e85, and IDCs in the 90's @ 500+ awhp, with room to grow... fifth port winning. Count down to head lift.... 3.... 2.... 30r ms3 dd on deck, has fuel... needs top mount turbo lovin' next... Check out the hair Salon: www.permtuning.com |
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Before too long we will have all of this sorted out with solid numbers as well as bench testing for all to see. We do have 1 extra IM right now to use as the spare to swap in and out. Its time to silence all of the haters and non believers.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score That's what I was thinking.....solid numbers thru the head of this port job vs a normally ported IM.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Even a blunt but rounded divider would work. The corners are what cause issues from what little i've read. Sean's been pitching that knife edged head idea for a long time... it'd be awesome to see someone actually do it! I was too chicken
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Well this is just the beginning, the people who have the most knowledge please throw ideas out and my brother and i WILL make them happen. If the knife edge is the best solution then we can take that route without a problem. This IM has not even been on the car for 24 hours so we are still tossing different options around to see which we want to go with. As for flow testing this, ive been told that bench time will be pretty costly, so that might get put on hold for a minute unless any reasonably priced options come up. So for now, the best comparison we have is simply back to back VD logs with the two setups. May not be the most desired testing but it will do for the time being.
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The gains i dont see being less than that of just a reg PNP.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Don't knife edge it. Knife edge flows worse than a gentle swept curve. Visualize the leading edge of a jet engine inlet and you'll get the idea of what your port split should look like.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score It doesn't cost less than my GS mani. Back to back VD logs won't provide much info, unless you can get the logs in the exact same conditions. If the mani flows that much more, a retune will be required to take full advantage of it. A flow bench, though costly, is the only way to see any difference. I'd love to see this work. We need more options.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Also, i got some mail today as some of you may have already seen. I initially ordered my @RaceBuilt manifold on 20 Feb, the whole "situation" happened and at that point i had been waiting about 3 months. I couldnt take it anymore and had a smoking turbo that HAD to be replaced. So i cancelled my order with him and then went directly to CPE to pick up my new fail manifold aka CPE manifold, and we all see how much fail that was. So i returned the CPE mani and contacted RB again since that was legitimately my only other option, and i also noticed that he got all cought back up. So within a week of me placing my order with him again, he had the manifold made and sent out. I received said manifold today ![]() And we got the lil man started young ![]() @Raider just wanted to show you that he came through for me
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score I think i will post it up once we get a little closer to that. Although it is appreciated, i would rather be sure that we can make this happen before i accept money.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score I cant wait to get rid of it either, and i didnt even pay for it. I can only imagine how depressed it makes you
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Well my brother @Panda Express and i got some mail today, @Captain KR thank you for tryen to jok on our style with the stickers you fucking copy cat. Noone was collecting east coast stickers until we started to do it, then you had to go around at all the NATOR events suckin everyone off for stickers, faggot.
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And don't even get me started on Chris's fail lol Those three stikuhs were on my car first.... Dick riders end/
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score So this racebuilt mani right...... Appearance- this manifold is a beautiful piece, solid welds and for the most part its a good piece. Design- good intentions, poor end result. I am pretty sure that the ewg version of this manifold is nothing less than the regular manifold with an extra runner added to the collector for the wg. Although I was promised and guaranteed that there would be absolutely no fitment issues or issues with the ewg runner hitting the o2 sensor. The poor placement of the wg runner causes not 1 but 2 issues. 1- THE RUNNER STILL FUCKING HITS THE O2 SENSOR. As I was promised it wouldn't. 2- where the runner meets the collector, the poor placement and design of said runner causes it to be IMPOSSIBLE to get a nut onto the turbo stud on the passenger side, closest to the motor. And yes, it is actually impossible, not just me not knowing what I'm doing. Trust me. I would also like to add that the the dumptube he sent me had a male vband flange on it, not a female end as needed. My car has been down for almost a week now, it has not ran since I attempted to make this paperweight fit in my Fucking car. I will make another thread with this information for all to see once I get it all sorted out. Wish me luck
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I don't know about the O2 sensor but I remember reading that you had to move the manifold out enough to get the nut started and then you have to tighten it a few turns at a time as the manifold seats. Good luck man.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Trust me bro, even with the mani out of the car, you still cannot fit a nut stud combo into that hole, Let alone while its attached to the turbo.. Trust me dude, we tried everything.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score It's a good thing that you got my shit! Jarrett needs to rectify this somehow. I don't see how a old ass protege garage manifold fits but the newer nicer racebuilt manifold And the brand new cast beautiful cpe mani don't work. Man that shit blows donkey Dick
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| Not Ranked : 0 score So what do you do now? cpe w/ a re-welded bung?
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Ive already returned the CPE mani, and @RaceBuilt wont answer my calls or texts. Im sure he is busy, but this is a legit problem that NEEDS to be addressed ASAP
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score So given my current situation, im considering having RB send me a regular manifold without the ewg runner, buying a used IWG hotside from a friend, running IWG until i can afford ATP EWG hotside. I realize this isnt the best of ideas, but at the point i am kind of out of solutions/ options and my car has been sitting for the last 3 weeks. So my question to the peanut gallery is, 1, Wait it out for EWG mani 2, go the ATP EWG Hotside on regular RB mani?
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