finally going BT!!!

[rgvms6]

So as the title says im finally going bt. Gonna buy my pistons and rods next week first. Going k1 rods with wiesco pistons. Also doing the balance shaft delete and egr delete as well. Ive been talking with alan over at edgeauto and hes hooking me up pretty well. Just wanna make sure i have it all though. Its pistons, rods, overhaul gasket set, cometic head gasket, crank pulley bolt, friction washers, front oil seal, rear main seal, main bearings, rod bearings, arp main studs, arp head studs, the balance shaft delete kit and egr plate correct?

The turbo im going with is between the Gtx3071 or gtx3076...im still undecided. I know im gonna need a mbc, the safe seals, 3 bar map sensor and of course a bigger intake. Any of you know which intake i should use. Jbr wide mouth or the 3.5" from sure? I wanna get this done right. Any feed back is greatly appreciated

[Matrix311]

congrats man you'll love it I wish I could provide feedback but i dont have a built motor.

[rgvms6]

Which intake set up are you running on your gtx? And where did you get your 3bar map

[Matrix311]

i'm using the htp 3" TIP with the 3" treadstone MAF with a filter on the end of the MAF so it's an SRI setup. I got the 3 bar map sensor from edge motorsports and the map sensor plug and play harness from matt jackson.

[h.h.sk1nny]

gt turbo is a better choice than the gtx, unless you are gonna run really high boost. just sayin

[rgvms6]

I plan on going 27ish

[h.h.sk1nny]

Originally Posted by rgvms6 I plan on going 27ish

I would hope you have a built motor, running 27psi on a gtx

[rgvms6]

Yup. Ordering pistons and rods come jan. 2nd cause alan is out on vacation.

[Importfan12]

I went with the Sure Full 3 aeros for my GT3076. I would also recommend going with the grimmspeed or Cobb EBCS

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Importfan12 I went with the Sure Full 3 aeros for my GT3076. I would also recommend going with the grimmspeed or Cobb EBCS

Or a sweet Stratified EBCV: Mazda 3 Port Electronic Boost Control Valve [MAZ 3P EBCV (0100-0005.1)] - $85.00CAD : Stratified Automotive Controls

Finally remember that the injectors run out of fuel around 400-420whp and you will need a source of additional fueling. However with 93 pump gas and no methanol or E85 it will be hard to make more than 350-375 due to the knock limitations of the motor and that is around the 23psi mark on a GT3071.

The intake to get for the 400whp power level is 3-3.5"

[aggierandy]

Go super big on the intake. 4" ftw

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[rgvms6]

Where can i find the 4" all the way through? The jbr doesnt fit the ms6 so that sucks. Do you know if streetunit does exchanges?

[aggierandy]

Htp has one about to be released. There is a thread on here somewhere. Not sure about it fitting a 6.

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[rgvms6]

I hope it does man. If not it looks like ill have to get rid of my 2.5 and get one from streetunit

[rgvms6]

I have e85 down here. I am currently tuned by Justin. So a 3-3.5 inch will be fine then. I also gotta find that plug and play map sensor

Originally Posted by Lex Or a sweet Stratified EBCV: Mazda 3 Port Electronic Boost Control Valve [MAZ 3P EBCV (0100-0005.1)] - $85.00CAD : Stratified Automotive Controls Finally remember that the injectors run out of fuel around 400-420whp and you will need a source of additional fueling. However with 93 pump gas and no methanol or E85 it will be hard to make more than 350-375 due to the knock limitations of the motor and that is around the 23psi mark on a GT3071. The intake to get for the 400whp power level is 3-3.5"

Definately getting that boost controller.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by rgvms6 I have e85 down here. I am currently tuned by Justin. So a 3-3.5 inch will be fine then. I also gotta find that plug and play map sensor Definately getting that boost controller.

-Bosch - 0 281 002 845 (Home » Shop » Sensors » Pressure Sensors » Bosch 3 Bar TMap Map Sensor with IAT)
-PNP harness: Mazdaspeed MAP Harness - Bitwise Motorsports

[rgvms6]

Originally Posted by Lex -Bosch - 0 281 002 845 (Home » Shop » Sensors » Pressure Sensors » Bosch 3 Bar TMap Map Sensor with IAT) -PNP harness: Mazdaspeed MAP Harness - Bitwise Motorsports

And thats why you are awesome lex. Im really excited for this build. I was gonna go BT first but i had a feeling i was gonna blow it so im doing my engine build first then buying the turbo right after. Still undecided on gtx3071/3076...

[Lex]

Originally Posted by rgvms6 And thats why you are awesome lex. Im really excited for this build. I was gonna go BT first but i had a feeling i was gonna blow it so im doing my engine build first then buying the turbo right after. Still undecided on gtx3071/3076...

In the big scheme of things there is very little difference between the 2 turbos. Think about your power goals first and let that be the decision maker.

The BNR S3 supports around 400whp (I know you are not considering it but thought I'd mention). The GT3071 is efficient to around 450whp, GTX3071 to around 475whp, and GTX3076 to around 500whp but the exhaust side will be limiting at this point and to go above that 420whp you still need either a lot of methanol or 5th port injection.

The more power the turbo supports, the slower it will be to spool.

[rgvms6]

Originally Posted by Lex In the big scheme of things there is very little difference between the 2 turbos. Think about your power goals first and let that be the decision maker. The BNR S3 supports around 400whp (I know you are not considering it but thought I'd mention). The GT3071 is efficient to around 450whp, GTX3071 to around 475whp, and GTX3076 to around 500whp but the exhaust side will be limiting at this point and to go above that 420whp you still need either a lot of methanol or 5th port injection. The more power the turbo supports, the slower it will be to spool.

Definately not bnr. Reason im leaning towards gtx over gt is due to the ewg and boost creep problems the gt has. Would running e85 be a solution over meth or 5th port?

[ms3bamf]

Originally Posted by rgvms6 Definately not bnr. Reason im leaning towards gtx over gt is due to the ewg and boost creep problems the gt has. Would running e85 be a solution over meth or 5th port?

E85 will be great for knock but sucks up fueling head room.

[rgvms6]

So in the long run a 5th port would end up cheaper huh