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__________________ 2008 MS3 gt 470hp/463tq on GT35r at 29psi Wiseco Pistons/Molar Rods/ACT 6 Puck/ARP Head Studs/TurboXS FMIC DP and RP/TurboSmart BOV/Tial 38mm EWG/PERM 5th/6th port injectors HKS CBE/ Koni Yellows and H&R springs/ HTP Whale Penis Intake/ PTP Fuel internals/SteedSpeed Mani/CP-E SafeSeals/E85 Hypnotic Tuned |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Installed the turbo this weekend. Much blood, and coolant, were offered to the gods. Overall it went well, took my time and methodically checked things. Car fired up first shot... But then, Fail ensued. The fucking coolant hose that you reuse blew on me... And that bitch is a total ass pain to fix once everything is installed. To anyone doing this install, just do what people say and get yourself an 18" piece of new hose, and some small hose clamps. You will thank yourself later. As mentioned the turbo is super silent But I can feel the potential it has. Time to tune ![]() Big thanks to the following: @eric@edgeautosport, jp@edgeautosport - for the parts, you guys rock. @cld12pk2go, @JacksonMS30 - for the documentation, they helped more than you know. A few things to note: If you're reusing the stock recirc tube. Put it on the TIP before you install. If using the COBB SRI, the stupid breather hose from the valve cover, is a hair too short. Attach it to the SRI, before mounting the SRI to anything. If using the CP-e TMIC, you will have to cut ~1" off each end of the supplied boost tube. JacksonMS30 - Attached is the page referencing the proper order to tighten manifold. Feel free to embed it into the main post. Last edited by Vader; 12-19-2011 at 08:15 AM. |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score @JacksonMS30 @cld12pk2go Here is a link to the hose people should get... Might want to reference in first post of both of your threads. Reinforced Hose |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score It's the 5/16" ID right? What hose do you guys use for the Wastegate? |
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Silicone Heater Hose, 0.310" ID, 0.630 OD, 0.160 Wall, Blue Color-Flex Technologies
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Updated thread to show ex mani tightening pattern, and link to coolant return line upgrade. Thanks @Vader for the link and the PDF for tightening the mani!
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score I used 6mm silicone hose. I suggest using just a slightly smaller diameter (4.5mm or something like that). Mine blew off at the drag strip and is now secured with a zip tie...
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before we knew this i suffered the same fate. After Eric from edgeautosports and a couple of our other great nator nm guys installed the turbo ( lets not forget that atp sent me a turbo with the actuator backwards ) Dustin and i were tuning out in the boonies and i lost every drop of coolant on the highway fml. we limped it home turning the car on and off coasting as to not overheat the motor. needless to say the hose split down the middle.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score what size studs do i need for the oil return line? |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Anybody have a link to where I can buy a turbo flange gasket and a downpipe gasket? And @eric@edgeautosport , you're saying we wont need to buy any studs for the ATP kit correct? Also what kind of fasteners are best to use on the flexible part of the return line? The ones securing the OEM line?
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score You will need M6x1 studs at least 1.25" to 1.5" long and some flange nuts to fit the studs (you may have to make the studs using a stick of all thread). You only need to for where the return line bolts to the block.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score i guess it may be old hat but did ATP finaly solve the compresser surge issue with the IWG? i'm finaly getting interested in BT now that everyone has done the pioneering zoom zoom boom shit.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score I can't speak for everyone, but I have yet to experience any compressor surge on my setup.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Bump for those of you who recently purchased an ATP turbo and were worrying about the install. ![]() Don't worry, its not as difficult as you think ![]() Happy modding
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I'm almost ready to roll, but I need one more silicone coupler and an AN fitting and line for for the stock coolant line. I'm not fucking with bending that stock pos again. @lilred aka chuntaro
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Bump for awesome write up. Saved my ass. Heads up though I almost had to pull the manifold after getting it back on to get the damned the coolant feed banjo bolt on. But then again I left the Dp attached and still hanging. |
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