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Starting my build today.
Started taking apart my spare motor . Got to get it torn down and then get the block checked to see what pistons I need to order. ( stock bore or .020 over ) .
Going with wiseco pistons K1 or Eagle rods. Arp head studs .
New gaskets, timing chain and tentioner. New VVT and oil pump .
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I'll post pics later when I get home.
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Originally Posted by jracer View Post
Starting my build today.
Started taking apart my spare motor . Got to get it torn down and then get the block checked to see what pistons I need to order. ( stock bore or .020 over ) .
Going with wiseco pistons K1 or Eagle rods. Arp head studs .
New gaskets, timing chain and tentioner. New VVT and oil pump .
BSD delete and baffle , CPE injector seals.. Also doing the clutch while it's out.
I'll post pics later when I get home.
Way to go brother ,Gl with everything can't wait to see the pics and progress.
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while your at it, take a gander at the corksport crank pulley... you'd be the first to use it!
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Nice, mang. Makes me want to start a build thread, but it would be pointless because I won't be goin BT for at least another 6 months.
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Hopefully I can also swing a new turbo also while it's all apart
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Hopefully I can also swing a new turbo also while it's all apart
Wait...what? Your doing all of this for the K04?? Dude..maybe I did it backwards by going BT first...but there is no reason to build this motor on a turbo that spins out at 5500 rpm..
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Well my car has 85k miles on it , so I figure build it now not when it breaks.
Who knows with these engines .. Some last 100k some 40k then boom. ..
I am fully bolted so the only thing I need is a turbo after it's built . I may just have to rock the k04 for a few more months ..
If my car had less miles I would do like everyone els , BT first .
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Yeah, I'm running essentially what you'll be running. Bought the car this way. It definitely leaves you wanting more when the K04 runs out of breath and the motor says, "That's all you got? Come on, throw 400 ft-lbs at me, dammit!"
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I am at work and will update when I get home ..

FAIL .... From the get go !!
Well all my EX. Valves are bent ... Fuck !!
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man, jealous im sorry to say, wish you the best with the build, i bet your gonna love your car even more after your done with all those shiny new internals!
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Well the story behind this engine is it came out of a mazda for warranty .. it had timing chain issues... the engine has been sitting in my garage for 8-9 months..
anyways.. when i would turn it over bye hand at TDC it had resistance...so i knew something wasnt right !!
so i got it all torn apart yesterday..
found all the exhaust valves stuck open !! they are all bent i think thats why they are staying open.. you can see little marks on the valves where they touched the pistons..
i guess the engine was out of time or something...
the #4 cylinder looks like it ingested something at one time.. you can see it in the pic of he valves i posted.. see all the dents ??
hope it can be fixed..ill have to take it to a cylinder head shop and see..
the bores look ok, i can see wear marks but i cant feel them. maybe they will hone out or maybe i will have to get it bored.
looks like this build just cost a lot more than i thought it was going to be....
i am bummed............
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i called a cylinder head shop and they will do my head for $250 and ill supply the ex. valves and valve guide seals.. they have to see the damage on the head to see if they can fix it..
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VVT broke.. Make sure you have the head and block dipped/cleaned very well, you may have some metal from the vvt acutator in the oil passages...
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if the VVT broke it would move time just enough to fuck the Exhaust valves ??..

.. you see the marks on the head ??
do they look bad ?
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Damn, this makes me want to get the DCR VVT just in case... That's crazy.
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yeah from what the history on the motor was it was the VVT/timing the guy said..
but i guess it moved just enough to bend EVERY ex.valve !!..
so i guess to all guys watch your VVT !!..
some pics of the valves stuck open.. and where they hit the piston............
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Damn dude, sorry to hear this. Builds do NOT go as planned.. welcome to the club.
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looks like you have your work cut out for you, the whole build process thing sucks. welcome to the club man!
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Aww man that fucking blows. This is supposed to be a happy time, glad it is not your only engine though.

Hopefully the machine shop can fix it without completely killing your wallet. Good luck man!
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There's a guy with an SVT Focus with very similar head damage. It can be welded up and shaved. The cylinder walls will need a very nice hone at the very least. Boring out .020" isn't the worst idea...hell, you'd gain a little displacement (prolly 2.35L, maybe more).

Sorry to hear the probs, but that damage isn't all that catastrophic.
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well ordered my CPE safeseals today !!..
i am taking the head to the cylinder head shop in the morning for them to look at it to determine if i should fix it or not..
i posted a want add in the for sale section looking for a head.. so if you know of anyone send them my way !
there is one on ebay but its waaay to much $500+ bucks..
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How difficult is it to swap the VVT guys? Just curious. Not too bad?
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wow.. this is going to cost more to build than i thought !!.. with my head being fucked ..
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Sucks, man. I think your build calls for a DCR VVT upgrade. Mine crapped out on me at 30K bone stock, but luckily replaced under warranty. Good luck! Subbed for progress...
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well a little update..
got my head fixed ! all new ex. valves and two intake valves.
head cleaned everything checked , valve job.. ect..
picking it up tomorrow morning.. so ill post pictures.
cost me $350 plus tax it came to $375.
clearwater cylinder head did the work...
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good shit man, good to see they could help you out.
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Yeah, I would say you are getting some really cheap labor out of them. If it's quality, you got yourself a deal. Good stuff.
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picked up my head this morning..
3 angle valve job
pressure tested
soda blasted
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2- new intake valves
gasket surface skimmed ( not decked )
$350 + tax.. $375 out the door.
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Originally Posted by jracer View Post
picked up my head this morning..
3 angle valve job
pressure tested
soda blasted
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2- new intake valves
gasket surface skimmed ( not decked )
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Ok so this is a stock ported head correct? So what direction are you going with the rods and pistons?
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this is a thread I will follow

Good luck with the build!
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head looks great..and so does the price. Who are you going to let do the bottom end work, I am looking for a good place myself in Florida.
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head looks great..and so does the price. Who are you going to let do the bottom end work, I am looking for a good place myself in Florida.
dont know yet about the bottom end work.... still have to save some more money for stuff..
those CPE stage 2 pistons look cool !!

but if anyone needs head work check out the place i went..
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that head came out great. What valves did you end up going with? OEM?
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stock head.. no port job. the exhaust valves are aftermarket.. dont know the brand.
i think i am going eagle/wiseco combo..not looking for huge HP .
350-385 -400 max hp.. would be nice..
Like all builds they dont ever go as planned ! didnt know my head was all fucked up then i messed up two tires running over something in the road so i went ahead and got 4 new tires. So the motor build fund got dipped into. so time to save some more money............
but i did get a few other parts like the SURE intake manifold gasket, CPE safe seals,Street unit EGR block off plate, a extra intake manifold to lightly port and remove the VTCS.. and a Matt damond new check valve for my OCC.
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Originally Posted by jracer View Post
stock head.. no port job. the exhaust valves are aftermarket.. dont know the brand.
i think i am going eagle/wiseco combo..not looking for huge HP .
350-385 -400 max hp.. would be nice..
Like all builds they dont ever go as planned ! didnt know my head was all fucked up then i messed up two tires running over something in the road so i went ahead and got 4 new tires. So the motor build fund got dipped into. so time to save some more money............
but i did get a few other parts like the SURE intake manifold gasket, CPE safe seals,Street unit EGR block off plate, a extra intake manifold to lightly port and remove the VTCS.. and a Matt damond new check valve for my OCC.

So are you going to port the intake yourself?
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