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I still have a lot of reading to do but that’s okay as my son made me promise not to do any of the work till he is back to in town. Since he's working out of town till sometime in august that gives me plenty of time to try to get a clue as to just what the hell I'm doing. I mean I was one of the early users of the StandBack and we all know where that got me (BOOM). So here is a list of the parts I have and what intend to get, if anyone has an opinion on the parts I have or suggestions for something I don’t have on the list I would like to know your suggestion and the why behind it.

Long Block :
I was able to pick up one up with very low miles 2500 for a very good price. I intend to stick with the stock internals unless I find anything bent once I pull the head and drop the oilpan for a look see. My reasoning for this is if I build it I would much rather have a sleeved block, for now I will be more than content with around 350 on the ground HP which would be around 100 more than stock. That can be somewhat of a DD that can also double as my play pretty .

PERFORMANCE PARTS :
exhaust manifold -topmount - custom- ceramic coated

downpipe - custom - non catted- ceramic coated down to the flex joint

screamer pipe - ceramic coated

Turbo - Turbonetics turbo -hotside has been ceramic coated -T3/T4 hybrid with a 50 trim .63 AR and a 57# wheel and also has ceramic ball bearings.Its water cooled and I got them to add NPT threads where the water and oil hook up that way I can go to Home depot for the connections and use high pressure hose which should make it easier to run the lines

External wastegate - Tial 38mm with a 13# spring

EBCS - Perrin 3 port (may get a different one as this one has to be spliced in)

Exhaust - Corksport cat back

FMIC - PWR core is 18 x 6 x 2 3/4 vertical veins(talked to PWR and said that core should be good for between 400 - 500 hp) not sure it will be worth the as I need to cut off the end tanks and change them around but I got for free when I bought the top mount manifold and it included piping and silicone tubing

Flywheel - Fidenza lightweight (haven't decided on a clutch yet)

SUSPENSION PARTS :

Coilovers - BC (was all there was at the time)

Swaybars - AutoExe front & rear

End links - AutoExe adjustable

MOTOR MOUNTS :
street unit - drivers and passenger side (had the front dog bone but haven't been able to find it yet)

Front motor mount - turbine tech

Diff Mounts - Turbine Tech for the front and stiffer inserts for the rear

BRAKES :

Rotora - drilled and slotted, pads - H2

GAUGES :

Wideband AFR, EGT , Oil pressure , Oil temp. , Water temp. Boost gauge (and yes I know that’s a lot, but I drive trucks for a living and am used to having a lot of info. in front of me)

MISCELANEOUS SHIT :

EGT block off plate
Windage tray (haven't decided if I'm going to do the BSD or not yet)
Apexi turbo timer (has anybody actually figured out how to get everything working if you use it yet?)

THINGS I WILL or MAYBE GETTING

Safe Seals
AP V3? (Haven't read up on it yet but in a nutshell what is the difference between V2 and V3?)
3 bar map
Have to make an intake system since I can't find one that would work with my topmount turbo
Was going to have my intake manifold PNP but they want so much to do it may get the one made made by JMF. (If you are running please let me know your impressions)
Optimized throttlebody (again if you are running one let me know your impressions)
HPFP - Had the CP-E fuel pump but sold when I blew probably go with internals this time maybe CorkSport (what is yall's opinion)
possibly forged rods

There may be a things I haven't found yet or something I haven't about needing yet so if you think of them please feel free let me know…….. THANX
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Found a station somewhat close that sells E85 so I think I will be giving this a try. I am curious among the people running E85 what difference have noticed in fuel mileage?

With the stuff Im doing to the car it doesn't really matter but I am curious.

Looking to find a 3" 0r 3.25" maf housing and the piping to do my inlet pipe.

Ordered my 3 bar map housing and harness to day.

And still doing a lot of reading about to start reading up using the AP for tuning.

WISH ME LUCK WITH THAT AS I CAN BE A LITTLE DENSE WHEN IT COMES READING TECHNICAL STUFF.
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Get an AP v3, so much nicer and faster, can monitor up to 6 parameters at once too.

With e85, just go forged rods.

For injector seals, get the Toyota seals, at least they are cheap when the shit starts leaking.

HPHP -- CorkSport.

Forget about AutoExe -- you can buy those things for much cheaper and of the same quality elsewhere.
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Just out of curiosity @Code Monkey;, why do you say that for the HPFP internals, CS is a better choice than Autotech?

I would also go with the AP V3 (though in terms of what it can do to/for the car, the V2 is just fine).

The OE clutch should be just fine for 350-ish whp and below 400wtq.



I wouldn't bother with the Autoexe swaybars either. They're narrower and less rigid than what you can get from several other vendors for significantly less money.

As for the motor mounts, I hope you like vibes. If this is going to be a DD, you should be aware that in adding the TT front motor mount along with the PMM/TMM/RMM from elsewhere, you'll end up with quite a rattly racket inside at low revs in particular.

You might consider getting in touch with some of the guys who do PNP work on intake manifolds here. They would probably beat the price you saw elsewhere, given that it's close to JMF money. Of course, there's nothing wrong with the JMF mani either . . .
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Just out of curiosity @Code Monkey;, why do you say that for the HPFP internals, CS is a better choice than Autotech?
Any internals will work well -- CorkSport, Autotech, PTP, cp-e -- after fixing the problem with the initial batch I would give an edge to CorkSport for putting in the R&D to create something just for out platform.
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I already have the AutoExe swaybars and the mounts from when before the car blew before.Everything at the top of the list is stuff I already have, some is installed some was installed but been pulled back out and some I hadn't got around to installing before I blew.

I had the trbinetech and the dogbone motor mounts already on before but hadn't put the others on yet and your right it did have some vibes to it. But I'm a firm believer that if GOD DIDN'T WANT YOU TO RADIO LOUD HE WOULDN'T HAVE INVENTED THE VOLUME CONTROL. Plus I've been a truck driver all my live so I'm used to feeling vibrations when I drive.

I will probably actually almost certainly just go with rods. Iwasn't even going to that but decided since I'm gonna drop the pan and pull the head the least I could was that since its the weakest link.

I was leaning towards the corksport internals but than I started hearing things about te and the cams and was getting a little leery.

Will the fidanza flywheel work with the stock clutch?

Was looking for a V2 AP cheap enough so that I could come out to the when trading it in for a V3.

I did not know that the Toyota would work in our cars I'll to look into that.

Thanks for the replies guys.
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Yup, the fidanza will work with the stock clutch and PP.

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Yes I did Matt, in reference to it the reason I was saying I'd want to sleeve the block is if I was to go all out just to give the block just a small measure of protection. But we all know how trying to be safe worked out for me in the past dont we. I plan to order one of your catch cans probably one day next week and probably one of your EGR block off kits to.
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With my list of mods I was wondering if anybody could advise me on what CELS I can expect to throw when I get my car back up and running. They do emissions testing here.

I know I can expect to throw one for my non catted downpipe. If my reading is right the AP will clear the light but when they it up to the OBD II it will come up as not ready to read or something like that. So once I'm positive it fits I plan to to a cat in that I bolt in, than have a test pipe made for that also bolts in so when its close to inspection time I can switch them out get inspected than switch back again.

So if you know of any CELS I can expect to throw and the work arounds please let know.
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IIRC, you will get one code for the EGR. VCTS delete will give you two codes. Or maybe it was the other way around.

Here is an old how-to on how to trick the ECU into thinking the butterflies are still there. You can always reconnect the EGR for the inspection.

I never got any codes for running catless, go figure.
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Update of parts ordered so far:

COBB AccessPort V3
Autotech High Volume Fuel Pump Upgrade Kit
Damond Motorsports OCC kit with VTA option
Damond Motorsports block off kit
2 - Way Receptacle Connector Pigtail - to make EBCS plug n play (thanx TI for the link)
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sounds like a good build, I am contemplating switching to an AP V3 as well.
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Ordered A couple more things today.

DEI 8616 relay
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CP-E safe seals

Got my APv3 today but with the car still down and somewhat apart can't make any maps to mess with. oh well
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Thought I would post some pictures of my turbo setup but I already posted them inanother about TOP MOUNT TURBO SETUPS and didnt want to double post them so here is a link to it feel free to comment and any suggestions are welcome.

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I just found a picture of the car that had the exhaust manifold that I have now. I just and it looks like he was trying to go blow through long before there was any real tuning available to do it. That must have been 6-7 years ago, no wonder he couldnt get the car to run right back than. I wonder if he was the first to try it? What do yall think about going blow through?

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I ordered a couple more things today.

Ron Davis Radiator
Molnar Rods
Wiseco Pistons
AWR rear diff mount


Also last week I sent my IM to Relentless to have it PNP and to have it and my valve cover powder coated.
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I think @Voltwings; went blow through at some point? It is doable these days.

Looks like a nice build so far.
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Some have had better luck than I did, but heres my thread full of fail. Blow Through MAF

The guy I tagged in my OP is blow through as well, and had much better results than I did, but his is a lot more custom.
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AWR rear diff mount??

Very interesting build by the way this looks very fun!
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Originally Posted by Mazdazilla6 View Post
AWR rear diff mount??
AWR has all 3 mounts for the MS6 but fuck their customer service. One of the mounts (PMM) was causing the engine to sit crooked, I am not sure if they revised the design or not.

@SneakyP86; if you get a chance, can you measure the distance between the tabs on the stock radiator or between the slots on the fan assembly? Ron Davis told me I was the first one to report a problem with their radiator not fitting and they have sold 19 MS6 radiators so far. I wonder if there was a revision for late 2006 models, just like Mazda revised the TMIC cold pipe. Thanks!
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@Code Monkey; I know AWR makes the engine mounts but I haven't heard of them making a diff mount.
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Originally Posted by Mazdazilla6 View Post
@Code Monkey; I know AWR makes the engine mounts but I haven't heard of them making a diff mount.
Oh, my bad, I must have scanned through the post too quick. It is either a typo or it is possible they made a rear diff mount years and years ago, @SneakyP86; seems to have some very early aftermarket parts.
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