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Smile My new k4 Hybrid turbo

I have installed in my car. A new version of the stockish K4. So we feet a mitsubishi td05-20g cartidge ,the front wheel is made from ktsturbobilletx.com and it is a 56mm 11 blade wheel (gtx style) the aluminium is from garret with AR 70. The car seems to spool at 3300 rpm and i have full boost at about 3700rpm. The car boosts 27psi and at 6500rpm i have 22psi till redline.
I have some fuel cuts though that i have to find out a solution.I really like the car and the way that turbo has power till redline.

I will let you know for my progress from this thread...
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basically a sorta bolt-on evo IX turbo?
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Nice little hybrid.

Do you have a compressor map for this? The drop in boost near redline could be from boost control alone. Are you running a 3 port for boost control? Also what is spring pressure?
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How much was it?

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Also is the turbo water cooled? I don't see any ports for a banjo bolt on the side of the chra.

What are you doing for the wastegate?

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Nice!!! Would love to see power numbers. Also who did the turbo? Cost? How much machine work?
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Yea more info pleaseeee

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Interesting. Hard to tell in the pics but i don't see a wastegate actuator. Are you running this external waste gate?
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Originally Posted by 802MS3 View Post
basically a sorta bolt-on evo IX turbo?
It is familiar to evo, but it isn`t reverse style and it is only oil cooled....
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Originally Posted by Lex View Post
Nice little hybrid.

Do you have a compressor map for this? The drop in boost near redline could be from boost control alone. Are you running a 3 port for boost control? Also what is spring pressure?
I do not have a compressor map.The boost drop i think it is because i use a greddy profec b boost controller and it isn`t that accurate like the 3 port.I have it internal wg from forge custom fit this turbo and it has the red spring (14psi spring pressure).

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Nice!!! Would love to see power numbers. Also who did the turbo? Cost? How much machine work?
That turbo made it a turbo specialist in my country Greece it is cold "turbo by spartalis".The cost without the forge wg is about 1150$.Have in mind that in my country the cost to buy a bolt on gtx is almost 2000$ with the custom fees and the shipping cost.
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Here is a clean 4 gear log ....
Have in mind tha pressure is at kpa and bat to C and i still run the oem map sensor....
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Nice, It would be cool to see that map sensor signal, or actua boost level. Overall that a pretty healthy turbo. Nice Job.
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Nice to see another kinda option.


I have some upgraded parts for the k04 soon also in the works....For way less than a BNR3.
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Nice to see another kinda option.


I have some upgraded parts for the k04 soon also in the works....For way less than a BNR3.
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I dont rly want to say yet, I have one thing for sure which is a simple wheel upgrade to push k04 a lil more to reach 350+whp.


But also have a whole cartridge+wheel upgrade in the works. Would like to test both before releasing anything else.
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I found some free time and make some progress i have not hit the fuel cut, but i still have a very high hpfp pressure...

The car looks very good though...

Here is a 4th log and a vd with that log ......

I steel want to play with my vvt tables because they are still stock to see how it will reacts...
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I dont rly want to say yet, I have one thing for sure which is a simple wheel upgrade to push k04 a lil more to reach 350+whp.


But also have a whole cartridge+wheel upgrade in the works. Would like to test both before releasing anything else.
Do I no what this is?
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looks like a fun turbo.
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im not too far away(italy). im currently saving up for a BNR but this looks pretty cool. how long did it take them to finish it?

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Do I no what this is?


Idk, do you? lol
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Idk, do you? lol
You just upgrading wheels right? Who is the company?
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You just upgrading wheels right? Who is the company?

Yup, a 50x65mm billet wheel, says its good for 350-375hp.


I have my own guy that rebuilds turbos and another guy that does all the machine work for him. R&D automotive in IL
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im not too far away(italy). im currently saving up for a BNR but this looks pretty cool. how long did it take them to finish it?

also, do you have any installed pictures?
It needs about 3-4 days and it is ready for use....

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I manage to make a dyno in a friends dynomite...
I make 383.9 whp .....

Here i have to say that my previous setup was a bnrstg3 and i have achieved almost the same power in the same dyno.The bnr was spooling faster but hybrid is much better after the 6000rpm....
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i'm assuming "estimated" is crank hp?
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are you at the same boost levels as before?
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i'm assuming "estimated" is crank hp?
Yea estimated is the crank hp..
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are you at the same boost levels as before?
Yes ecactly the same....I think that in higher boost levels the hybrid should made more power....
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Aren't hp and tq lines supposed to intersect at 5250rpm, always?
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Aren't hp and tq lines supposed to intersect at 5250rpm, always?
I`m soory but my english isn`t that good can you please explain me what do you mean?
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Aren't hp and tq lines supposed to intersect at 5250rpm, always?
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I`m soory but my english isn`t that good can you please explain me what do you mean?
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The chart you posted does not make sense. The two lines should intersect at 5,250 revolutions per minute.
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Graph is skewed because it's in N*m. If you convert the torque numbers to ftlbs, it makes a lot more sense.

For example: Ballparking his 5250 numbers you're around 350 HP and 475 Nm, which converts to about 350 ftlbs.
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i really don`t know if the lines should intersect at 5200 rpm ..
I just made a dyno and get that results...
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Your graph is fine. Just threw a bunch of us off because we generally work in ft*lbs, not N*m.
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Originally Posted by StayBroke View Post
You just upgrading wheels right? Who is the company?
GPOP SHOP?

In reply to my email to them about another project a few weeks ago.

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We have a custom Billet wheel upgrade for these that supports around 375HP available for $850 + shipping. This is if you send a core in, it includes a complete HP rebuild, billet wheel upgrade, turbine wheel modifications and a complete turbine housing port and polish. Let us know if you have any other questions on this or if you need anything else. Thank you,

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Jim & Gerry, G-Pop Shop
Specializing in rebuilt and new turbos,"

And I am guessing this is who makes PG's turbo upgrade
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Turbo lab was who I am going through.
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I have talked to turbo lab....They are just sketchy and dont kno if they offer warranty or what they actually do, like if ur having them upgrade the wheel, are they rebuilding the turbo also?? etc.


Got my billet wheel upgrade for $150, and will cost me under $100 for rebuild kit and less than a $100 for machining and balancing the turbo......Wheel should be here monday or tuesday.
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So after the 56mm wheel, i remove the turbo and i have place a 52,5mm wheel(sory i have not time for photos) in the same cartridge of course i have to change the aluminioum inlet because this is smaller a wheel.My first impression is that the car definately boosts sooner i will make some logs tonight and i will share it with you...I`m curius to see how this hybrid will reacts....
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