RhoadBlock's build finally commences

[RhoadBlock]

Welp, I had finally installed my temporary 3071 bolt on. Enjoyed it but rolled into it too much without a tune yet. Sunday nite it spiked at about 28psi and I started feeling power loss. I limped about one more mile with a shit storm of black smoke behind me before it died right at the turn light before the bar where my buddies were at. (I love that I got AAA too btw haha). Pulled the bumper off, loaded up the car & had it towed home.

There was oil all over the engine bay near the left intake runner. Pulled the intake mani & it was full of chocolate milk but I didn't see anywhere in the block where I may have thrown a rod. Then I noticed a huge crack in the mani on the left runner right at the end of the runner which explains all the oil in the bay.

So my conclusion is I just blew the head gasket. I'm going to harbor freight today to pick up a compression tester. Gonna check that out.

Then yesterday after spending all day in a 130* attic (don't work on your car when you're exhausted and sleepy) I got home and rushed to get my car up on jack stands among other stuff I needed to get done before I had to leave at 7. Got the rear up, moved to the front. Evidently started lifting the car up by the fucking radiator bracket. Wheels were about 3-4" off the ground and the bracket snaps, radiator end tank busts open, all the coolant ends up on my driveway. Radiator gets all mangled up from the jack smashing it when the car dropped. So that was my last straw.

After the compression test I'm gonna pull all the parts I won't need & post them up for sale.

Still figuring out the a/r I want to run. I wanna run the redline out to maybe 7200. I'm thinking twin scroll T4 GT35 with .90 or so a/r. 9.5:1 pistons & I plan out boring out .1 l & sleeving it. Something like CP-E's silly $6k+ deal but for a price that I can source out locally for a LOT less.

I'm just in the planning stages now. But I plan on pulling the motor & gathering parts asap. I want to be 100% complete with a solid safe & reliable tune that I can beat the shit out of the car on the track.

Needless to say I'll be on here a lot more frequently. Kick back, relax & help me out thru this journey fellas. The beers on me.

Logan

[JMEngineer]

What the hell did you do to get to a curb weight of 3100lb??

[RhoadBlock]

Gutted the car as much as I could at the time. If it isn't physically necessary to drive I took it out for the most part. But there's a few more things I plan to do. I should be able to get it under 3000 when I'm done.

[Navy_Mech2]

Damn that sucks bad. I used to follow your build thread on SU. You still have the orange rims on the car?

[essejkcamraw]

holy big hotside batman! .90 on a 35r is huge. is this going in the stock location, or are you thinking top mount setup? i think with a 35r in stock location on the speed6 it is a really tight fit.

[RhoadBlock]

I still have the orange wheels, tho I'm letting a buddy borrow them for the moment since someone stole his HREs.

The turbo isn't going in the stock location. I'm doing a top mount mani, tho I haven't decided if I want to do a custom tubular or just do Leen's for sake of ease. I know you all LOVE Leen's shit right now, but I've always been a firm equal length tubular guy. Plus they look better imo. I haven't made up my mind tho. I'm still in the very early planning stages. Also I'm not 100% on the a/r either. I remember Dustin and others saying a .90 on a TS T3 became a bottle neck. I know T4s are bigger so I may not need quite as high of an a/r. Again, still researching and planning.

[essejkcamraw]

Originally Posted by RhoadBlock The turbo isn't going in the stock location. I'm doing a top mount mani, tho I haven't decided if I want to do a custom tubular or just do Leen's for sake of ease. I know you all LOVE Leen's shit right now, but I've always been a firm equal length tubular guy. Plus they look better imo. I haven't made up my mind tho. I'm still in the very early planning stages. Also I'm not 100% on the a/r either. I remember Dustin and others saying a .90 on a TS T3 became a bottle neck. I know T4s are bigger so I may not need quite as high of an a/r. Again, still researching and planning.

i like leens stuff but, nothing beats a solid tubular set up, plus it just looks good. although a steedspeed mani will be lot easier and likely cheaper to come by than a custom tubular set up.

im lookin forward to seein this come together, always nice to have BT setup guys locally.

[RhoadBlock]

Originally Posted by glanata im local to u too... more like 30 to 40 mins away lol im thinking about going bt 3071r, after i get my coilovers lol ur car looks sick! u rubbing at all? im runing 18x9.5 +38 on 225 45 tires, im getting bc coiovers and the adjustable ball joints, i was wondering whats ur camber set at? thanks

I'm damn near positive I told you every aspect of my wheel setup in your wheel thread on 24/7. I rubbed a little bit with my 19x9.5 +25 225/35 & about -2/-4 f/r camber. I did a lot of fender work to make it work tho. Once this build is done I'm picking up some 17x9 RPF1s and probably running 255/40 tires. I'll go with whatever size will yield me the best track time tho. From here on out it's pretty much all out performance.

Originally Posted by essejkcamraw i like leens stuff but, nothing beats a solid tubular set up, plus it just looks good. although a steedspeed mani will be lot easier and likely cheaper to come by than a custom tubular set up. im lookin forward to seein this come together, always nice to have BT setup guys locally.

Thanks sir. Hit me up anytime and we can chill/check out the ride. I may need a ride in your car to keep me motivated to get my MS6 running lol.

[RhoadBlock]

I'm going to have my buddy who's amazing at welding aluminum weld that crack shut. I'll be reusing it since it's been ported and polished and I'm not about to do that shit again. Using it until a damn intake mani gets released finally at least.

[theschrum]

28psi eh? Are you using the stock BCS or MBC.

[RhoadBlock]

Originally Posted by theschrum 28psi eh? Are you using the stock BCS or MBC.

It was the damn stocker. I was gonna pick an MBC from a buddy of mine this weekend and get it in there but the motor blew it's load before I could get it in.

[MS33SM]

A SURE TIG and a cracked #1 runner.....i lost count on how many that is.

Can we declare that a dead product yet?

[MarkyMark]

Originally Posted by MS33SM A SURE TIG and a cracked #1 runner.....i lost count on how many that is. Can we declare that a dead product yet?

lol, nice try!

[Tech/Sales@EM]

Dude thats worse than I originally thought from your texts. Ouch. GL on the build up brosky

[RhoadBlock]

Originally Posted by MS33SM A SURE TIG and a cracked #1 runner.....i lost count on how many that is. Can we declare that a dead product yet?

This was a PTP one from way back when. I hadn't caught any threads about the cracked runners tho. Guess I hadn't lurked enough. Damn. Thanks for the insight tho. It won't be going back on.

[jmhinkle]

Looks more like the PTP spacer.

Please tell me you didn't have those side bolts in.

[RhoadBlock]

No they didn't fit. I just bolted it back with the 6 bolts facing the block.


Tapatalk stole $2.99 from my build fund.

[Chimmike]

I'm local to you man. I'll give you a handy for the 3071r lol. I'd like to check out the build sometime, I'm about 30 mins from you.

[dougefresh_]

Originally Posted by RhoadBlock I know you all LOVE Leen's shit right now, but I've always been a firm equal length tubular guy. Plus they look better imo.

You won't see it 90% of the time either way. Glad you're ditching that jank ass mani bro. 5 bolts to the head tho, not 6. Looking forward to this build man! Choose your wg spring wisely because getting that ewg off on the top mount is a royal pita!

[RhoadBlock]

Originally Posted by chimmike I'm local to you man. I'll give you a handy for the 3071r lol. I'd like to check out the build sometime, I'm about 30 mins from you.

Def bro. Once it all starts hit me up & u can come check it out.

Originally Posted by dougefresh_ You won't see it 90% of the time either way. Glad you're ditching that jank ass mani bro. 5 bolts to the head tho, not 6. Looking forward to this build man! Choose your wg spring wisely because getting that ewg off on the top mount is a royal pita!

5 to the head & 1 more on the bottom near where the EGR mounted at. I used those 6. I'll figure out the wg spring. Maybe I'll have an equal length fabbed up where the wg is easier to access.


Tapatalk stole $2.99 from my build fund.

[glanata]

Originally Posted by RhoadBlock Def bro. Once it all starts hit me up & u can come check it out. 5 to the head & 1 more on the bottom near where the EGR mounted at. I used those 6. I'll figure out the wg spring. Maybe I'll have an equal length fabbed up where the wg is easier to access. Tapatalk stole $2.99 from my build fund.

im local to u too... more like 30 to 40 mins away lol im thinking about going bt 3071r, after i get my coilovers lol ur car looks sick! u rubbing at all? im runing 18x9.5 +38 on 225 45 tires, im getting bc coiovers and the adjustable ball joints, i was wondering whats ur camber set at? thanks

[RhoadBlock]

Yeah I know, but it could have been a lot worse. The block seems to still be good. I went to do the compression test today but the kit I picked up is a gay one. I got a cylinder leak kit, figuring it'd do the same thing, but I need an actual compression test kit. I'll be picking one up either tomorrow or Monday. Will report those numbers and then start pulling all my parts and posting them up for sale, and getting the head ready for work, then start on pulling the block. Depressed and excited at the same time.

[RhoadBlock]

Did the compression test tonight.

Cylinder #1: 168 psi
#2: 205 psi
#3: 0 psi
#4 252 psi

Soooooo, yeah. Crazy variation and cylinder 3 is definitely frigged. A buddy of mine thinks I probably spun the rod bearing. I've already got the DP, exhaust, intake mani, and intake stuff pulled. Tomorrow I'll pull the exhaust mani and turbo and try to get it all posted up for sale. Then I'll start pulling everything off so I can pull the block, see the damage and start getting it all worked on. I'll slowly be pulling other things to post up for sale: things I'm replacing/upgrading/removing, etc. Eventually I'll have the ACT race clutch/flywheel, probably the TWM stuff, Standback, etc. If anyone is interested in anything else (stock parts, or mods) PM me. I'll let you know if/when I'm yanking it.

Stay tuned.
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[essejkcamraw]

man that sucks to hear, good luck with everything man, hopefully you get this thing going.









oh and BTW, if your intake mani is ported, id be very interested in it

[RhoadBlock]

Got most of the bolt-on/accessory pieces off the car tonight. Just the little stuff left before I'm able to get the block pulled. Searching around local machine shops that are known for good head work and block boring. If anyone has had any good experiences or knows of any legit shops in the Tampa area let me know. Once I source out a good shop I'm gonna have them start on port/polishing the head and boring the block.

I'll try to have FS pics of all the stuff I'm selling. The FMIC is pretty much accounted for. I think the DNP mani is too. Other than that I'll have an MS3 Xcel Nano, Nviscid for big turbos, GT3071 IWG bolt on, Catless 3" CP-E DP & My custom cat back. Also got the factory seats, seatbelt tensioners, airbags never deployed, etc.

Please don't clutter up this thread with dibs or asking for prices, what parts I'm selling, will I sell this or that or whatever. Send me a PM or wait until the FS thread shows up in the FS section.

[jracer]

Clearwater cylinder head did my work . Good prices, and a guy there ports speed3/6 heads

[steedspeed]

Car looks hot! Shame you blew the pistons but sometimes it's nice to know that you have no choice but to go big with a built motor.

[bmylez]

Originally Posted by steedspeed Car looks hot! Shame you blew the pistons but sometimes it's nice to know that you have no choice but to go big with a built motor.

Yeah, if you have the money! There are some people on here like spnkr who are screwed when stuff breaks.

Luckily my turbo hasn't died or something else lame like that. I'm still planning on getting your manifold...one of these damn days!!!

[jmhinkle]

Not true. No one has blown from big power yet. He didn't have any kind of tune on this car. Says so in first post. Plenty of us running big power and big psi on stock motors now.

[RhoadBlock]

Got most everything pulled off the block. Now I just need a buddy to come over and give me a hand unbolting the tranny and removing the block. He's gonna let me borrow his crane. He lives 5 minutes from me but lining up our work schedules is such a pita.

Got a big part out sale up in the F/S engine section.

[jracer]

Originally Posted by RhoadBlock Got most everything pulled off the block. Now I just need a buddy to come over and give me a hand unbolting the tranny and removing the block. He's gonna let me borrow his crane. He lives 5 minutes from me but lining up our work schedules is such a pita. Got a big part out sale up in the F/S engine section.

remove the tranny and the engine as one...

[doubleflusher]

Originally Posted by jracer remove the tranny and the engine as one...

Yes.

[m4tic]

you made sure theres no hole behind #3 right?


sorry to hear... but how much for the gt30?














wait i found it

[RhoadBlock]

No hole. My buddy is pretty sure I just spun a rod bearing. I'm hoping he's right. But I won't know until I get the block pulled and opened up. Hoping to get that done by this weekend, if not in the next few days.

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

EXTREME PSI : Your #1 Source for In Stock Performance Parts this shits on that 35R

[RhoadBlock]

Originally Posted by jracer remove the tranny and the engine as one...

Yeah idk wtf I was talking about. I'm definitely gonna do it that way since I gotta pull out my clutch & flywheel anyway.


Tapatalk stole $2.99 from my build fund.

[RhoadBlock]

Originally Posted by MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex EXTREME PSI : Your #1 Source for In Stock Performance Parts this shits on that 35R

I've been debating between BW & ATP. My buddy has a solid discount thru ATP tho so I can probably get a TS GT35 or 40 for half the price. That kinda speaks a lot.


Tapatalk stole $2.99 from my build fund.

[RhoadBlock]

Did some serious work tonight. Stephan came over and gave me a hand pulling the motor out tonight. The garage is a mess. Motor, tranny & differential pulled. Tranny and diff pulled off. Tranny is full of grease and gunk. Clutch & flywheel pulled off. I thought I had a 6 puck sprung hub. Turns out I had an unsprung hub. Pretty shitty for daily driving. After maybe 10-12k miles the clutch is shot. As it turns out, race clutches aren't meant to last lots of miles and be daily driven on the street.

After that we pulled the valve cover. Everything looked just fine. Decided to pull the oil pan before we called it a night. BTW, I fucking LOVE my F2 oil pan baffle!!!! I may be lucky as hell after seeing the beginning of the damage. Granted I won't know until tomorrow for sure when I pull the head off, but my fingers are crossed. The verdict: blown rod #3. The oil pan baffle took all the brunt of the force of the thrown rod. From what I can see there is no damage to the oil pan. Or the block for that matter. The rod shattered, and the only damage I can see is on this piece here bolted to the bottom of the block around the rods.

I may still be able to use my stock block and head. Cross your fingers for me guys. Once I get the head pulled and everything removed from the head and block, I'll start sourcing out companies to bore and sleeve the block for me. I think I found 2 that look pretty good. As long as the block looks good, the foundation work will begin asap. I'll post up with some more pics tomorrow. For now, the couple I could get tonight.

















I guess this explains the zero compression is cylinder 3. We'll see how the cylinder walls look and if the piston was damaged too. Pics tomorrow.

[dougefresh_]

Glad to see you're making good progress bro. Keep up the good work, and thanks for all the pics!

[RhoadBlock]

Also, the shot to shit clutch. the friction plate had grooves in it from where it was worn down to the rings. So this is what you can expect from an ACT race clutch/fly kit. I ordered a 6 puck sprung hub, but it was definitely unsprung as you can see. And it was completely toast after 10k miles.