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forgot to ask earlier, what do you mean when you say your exhaust is grounding out?
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can you due a test to see which spring it has?
or is it by color only
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the exhaust is hitting the body some were( mtnrunner)
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can you due a test to see which spring it has?
or is it by color only
I think it's by color, but if you take the vacuum line that's running to your boost gauge, and run it to your wastegate, check your boost with the dashhawk, you should be able to tell.

If you still boost 22 psi, it's your spring
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i just searched the info and it looks like by color only.

TiAL Sport.com

i wasnt sure exactly which wastegate you have so i figured to just link the technical page for tial. click on the spring pressure for the wastegate you have and it will tell you what springs create what boost. again all i can see is that its only based on color.

its like jwilkins and i are in a race, haha.
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ahh might rock 22 psi
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yo video...before i go to bed...make it happen
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couple more min
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here you go, i went about half throttle maybe 3/4, it was the 2nd drive so wasn't sure what to expect


if i could learn to shut my mouth, while recording lol
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"looks a lil lean?"

niggah floor it!!!! shits gonna look pig rich cruisin!!!!

hahahah nervous huh??? im o be shittin bricks when i get mine running.... praying to baby jesus i dont go VTA block


car sounds like pure sex though +1+1+1+1
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i was hoping nothing would hit the ground, ill do a better one later
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This thread is pure win.


Justin, to play it safe, order a smaller spring from tial, and swap it out. It's the only way to be certain IMO, and doesn't cost much at all.

Also, you need to do a full pressure check on the entire intake track and listen for boost leaks. For all you know, you have a leak on your WG line and that's why it's not opening up.


I know you got it all 99% done, but don't get lazy now. Would be a shame to see all this hard work end in tears.
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i think i used some tiny shit (green)one size down from 3/32 and it was to small and for some reason the green does not work as good as the orange so ill go p/u some 3/32 seemed to work great and im running 100% argon.
worked good with my dumb ass @ the helm lol
Green is pure tungsten. I prefer it for aluminum cause it balls up nicely on the tip and gives you a nice broad arc with high frequency. Don't use this electrode on steel, you'll get arc blow (hard to control arc). And 3/32 is actually the better size for aluminum cause shit gets hot, but i guess 1/16 may work okay.

Orange is 2% ceriated tungsten. It's good for steel, but i think 2% lanthiated is better (yellow). It seems to hold up to the heat best out of all, but for the small stuff we do, ceriated works fine.



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well im whore out, i went out on a crew today, and they worked my ass off!!
This quote just doesn't sound right man.... lol.
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it is a 22-23 psi spring tested her out today yo!!
here is a data log
and i rolled into it real easy, but the boost comes on right now!! that is one bad ass turbo!



you think ill scatter it @ 22-24?
old tune is still a little fat, but this is 3rd mind you, i didn't want to load it that hard, if it was lean! and i think the kr is the exhaust hitting the tub.

it scared the fuck out of me on the way home, spun them in 4th @ about half throttle, on a pass, on dry pavement! had to back out of it !! ya!
haha

cagey, your nuts! this thing is ridiculous!
you may want to consult a dr about your power obsession, you to dj
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ya i agree with you dj the small shit just melts, im going back to the bigger3/32,, actually i tried the small stuff and it wouldn't work, so i went back to the bigger stuff

and ill do a pressure check! this weekend!!

dude it runs awesome!!
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Fuck man it looks awesome. Love what you did with the IC core. Great to see it running


I wish I could have gotten my shit done this fast. Started in April and STILL not done. Have to drive 200 miles if I even want to touch the car.

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2 weeks 4 days yo! and i made most of my junk and lenny if that bov goodie is hoggin up some power!, it can have it !!

the mtr spins up so free, compared to before, i don't think i have any restrictions or turbulence
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I like the fact u went with the water cooled tial gate! I might have to upgrade eventually, let me know how it works! And again...very nice setup! I wish someone in my neck of the woods had a BT speed 3/6. I'm all alone here in CO.
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their a couple speeds here, but their all tiny turbo
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soon my friend, soon... like 4 months lol
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Yea there's a shit load of speed3's here but no BT's as far as I know.
I'd really like to run another BT speed6 or even a ms3.
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I don't get the point of a water cooled wastegate? Anyone care to try to push some sense into my head?
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its neat, and i guess it just gives less chance for things to expand too much and crack? no clue really
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keeps the thing cool i guess, its processing 1500 deg gas so it gets hot!
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turd you should go with the .5557, you won't be disappointed.
it is crazy and it spools fast! it is better in all aspects imho
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turd you should go with the .5557, you won't be disappointed.
it is crazy and it spools fast! it is better in all aspects imho
I do believe that is Creed's plan..its just matter of money and time for that overworked bastard.

Just carious at what rpm are you seeing full spool rigor? I was thinking around 20 psi on 2.3 litler motor a 5557 .63 ar should see full spool around by 3800 rpm.

Are you gonna keep boost in the 20's are dial her down to 17 like you originaly figured you would run?
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it seems fine! but i don't know,
it pulls so hard, it kinda scares me! that it might shit a rod, but i don't know.
im sure it will spool a lil earlier than that, and i was so concerned about lag, but its way better all around cause, i pull a mtn and it builds a lil boost to pull the hill, and it still does with np.

and pulls better in first too, a lot smoother, 1/4 throttle in first, is better than wot with stocker haha
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have you tried messing with the wastegate lines at all to see if it changes your boost?
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no they worked me like a dog today
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Yea there's a shit load of speed3's here but no BT's as far as I know.
I'd really like to run another BT speed6 or even a ms3.
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Glad ya got it running !! Looks like it's a blast to drive ! I want BT !!
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yeah with no tune at all I'm spooling by 3800 or so. Its much faster than I expected. Still though, if it's hitting 5psi in the early 3k's that is still more than enough to get you going. 5psi is still pretty significant, its not like the stock turbo.

it just doesn't feel completely dead before spool, thats all I'm saying. Mid-throttle is a hell of a lot more responsive than the stock turbo.
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i figured out what happened, i ordered a 1.6 bar not 16psi. so that is why im going over boost 23.20 is their target, so it is right on! crap im an idiot!
i think you could choose between psi or bar while ordering, just to make it confusing haha
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Drive to STL... I'll run ya
Maybe next summer...! But then again thats a long way to travel to get my ass kicked
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Maybe next summer...! But then again thats a long way to travel to get my ass kicked
I doubt you'd get your ass kicked. I think it'd be a really good race. You, rigor, and madvillain have sexier setups than I do anyway.
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Yea there's a shit load of speed3's here but no BT's as far as I know.
I'd really like to run another BT speed6 or even a ms3.
I'll be down to race in about a month
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I'll be down to race in about a month
Haha... I don't think there's going to be a Mazdaspeed in existence that will be able to beat you in about a month. Your shit is ridiculous, son
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rigor, we should race as i am a pretty well modded stock turbo and you have the same mods but a sick ass turbo. we could show everyone how much of a difference the turbo actually makes. haha, i never mind loosing to cars that are cooler than mine anyways.
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I'll be down to race in about a month
dustin, you can tune me and ill come race
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