what turbo for bt?

[pearl_ms3]

so im looking to go bt in the next few months. just looking to see what turbo you guys think i should go with. my goal is around 400hp. i just bought one of the first versions of the steedspeed mani with changeable t3/stock flange and 38mm ewg. i know i will need tial ewg/bigger inlet/ maybe v-band dp. rest of the mods in sig. also what spring pressure/ewg would i go with? any help is appreciated. thanks.

[essejkcamraw]

if 400 is your goal, 3071 w/ .82ar is capable of this. if you want 400 now with room down the road to make more. go 3076 .82ar. these are the two BEST turbo set up's to make power an still have good DD ability.

[turboneil]

I'd go with the 3076 82ar. You can run less boost to make 400 and always make more if you decide 400 isn't enough.

[xcoldricex]

i'd go with the fp hta3076 if you get the money together i have turbo/inlet/big intake/downpipe

[cageyvet]

The previous turbos will do it but I'd keep some money in my pocket and buy one of the following ;Garrett 60 trim .63 ar, Garrett 60-1 stage 3 wheel. 82 ar

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

A PTE 5557 can get you there, Holset HX35 can do and you can get em for dirt cheap, you can go my route and go with a Borg-Warner S256-S259. Any size 30R can do it, you've got alot of options when only shooting for 400hp.

I also recommend either a .8 bar (11.6psi) or 1 bar (14.5psi) wastegate spring.

[pearl_ms3]

Originally Posted by MS3-asaurus rex A PTE 5557 can get you there, Holset HX35 can do and you can get em for dirt cheap, you can go my route and go with a Borg-Warner S256-S259. Any size 30R can do it, you've got alot of options when only shooting for 400hp. I also recommend either a .8 bar (11.6psi) or 1 bar (14.5psi) wastegate spring.

so are you running the borg now? if so how do you like it? many say the PTE 5557 but i saw that cageyvet's went out. i just dont want to be replacing a bt. can someone give me a link to the dbb 50 trim. thanks

[pearl_ms3]

Originally Posted by xcoldricex i'd go with the fp hta3076 if you get the money together i have turbo/inlet/big intake/downpipe

Haha. I used the money I have now for ur steedspeed Mani.

Is there a benefit of going vband dp?

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[SSinstaller]

GT3076 with .63 Ar turbine.

Easily get you to 400hp and will spool great, when your ready for 450+ just swap the turbine housing and up the boost.

Originally Posted by pearl_ms3 Is there a benefit of going vband dp?

Def get the v-band turbine, it makes working on the exhaust/WG way easier....

[driver311]

blah blah blah. dbb 50 trim will out do all those turbos under 20psi and will make the most power on pump gas. Its a tride and true money maker that rocks 400whp on pump in its sleep. Dont do the same shit everyone else has done. 50trim50trim50trim!!

[manelscout4life]

dibs on your cobb downpipe!

[turd burglar]

if you want a 50 trim get ahold of me. got a guy that will do 600 shipped on brand new ones

[Boosted Beluga]

Go with a 88mm turbo and run 35psi youll get there lol

[cageyvet]

mine did not die, please check that thread again for details

[pearl_ms3]

my bad didnt get through tthe whole thing.

[rigor]

.5557 mine is fine but they require a 44mm wg to run below 26 psi..
i got it down to 19psi with the 44 ..
with the 38 it was 26psi..

[pearl_ms3]

so i guess the 5557 is out of the question since i have the 38mm ewg. so im thinking 3076 82ar. does anyone have a good site i hould buy from. also what specs do i want for the turbo? sorry im a newb at bt. thanks for everyones input.

[xcoldricex]

Originally Posted by pearl_ms3 so i guess the 5557 is out of the question since i have the 38mm ewg. so im thinking 3076 82ar. does anyone have a good site i hould buy from. also what specs do i want for the turbo? sorry im a newb at bt. thanks for everyones input.

again the fp hta3076 is .82 and has almost the power of a 35r. a gti put down 549/481tq with it. pm me when you're ready to buy

[rodrigo]

go with an reworked ko4 and a 100 shot of nawz!!!

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

The BW isn't on the car yet, I'm still waiting on a few things to line up before the install

[BReif61]

Holset HX40.

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

^^^^do eeetttt!!!

[obijack]

where can you buy a fp hta3076?

[xcoldricex]

Originally Posted by obijack where can you buy a fp hta3076?

i'm also selling one. if i could find a tial v-band housing for cheap i'd probably run it

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

You get a 3076 and send it to forced performance for the HTA upgrade...or you can buy one directly from them I believe..

[NJSPEED3]

Originally Posted by MS3-asaurus rex You get a 3076 and send it to forced performance for the HTA upgrade...or you can buy one directly from them I believe..

Not even you can go on the fp site and buy a brand new one with the wheel already. I mean that if you like to ball out with an $1900 turbo lol.

Vband just makes things easier to install and remove no performance gains on it.

[pearl_ms3]

i have never had an external wastegete. so my question is how do you know what spring to use? also i am thinking the pte gt3076 t3/ 5 bolt .63ar, do i need the T04B/t04E/TO4S?

[bmylez]

You want a spring that is as close as possible to the minimum boost you want to run. If the spring is too soft and you start running high boost, you can get into boost control issues. So if you have a 6psi spring and want to run 21psi, the chances of boost fluctuation are much higher, in general. A good electronic boost controller can help a lot with this, but there's no reason to run a really soft spring if you never want to run low.

[pearl_ms3]

last question which compressor cover do i need T04B/t04E/TO4S

[bmylez]

I believe T04E has 3" inlet/2" outlet. That's a pretty standard setup, and I've seen a lot of people run that.. If you want a different inlet/outlet configuration, that's up to you.

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

4" inlet 2.5" outlet is baller status

[bmylez]

True, and that's the T04S cover, but it would be *big*. Nothin wrong with it if you want biggest and best, but making a TIP/intake for it without moving the battery would be...hard?

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

Possibly. I know the stock replacement GT series turbos utilize a 4" inlet and the cpe BT TIP fits. So as long as this manifold puts the turbo in almost exactly the same position it SHOULD be ok

[bmylez]

Hmmm...I'm on ATP's site and it says 3" inlet. They sell a 3" inlet pipe kit for it.

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

I said CP-E...

[pearl_ms3]

Yes cpe makes a 4 inch inlet.

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[bmylez]

Well in that case, no reason not to get the T04S cover!

[Boosted Beluga]

That a boy

[Fobio]

a friend just sent me this...BorgWerner's new EFR line...they're IWG's tho:

BorgWarner EFR 6758 Turbo



EFR 6758 is a versatile turbocharger with very large map width for outstanding power potential even at high boost - and does it in a small package. This is an excellent turbocharger for autocross, rally, drift, road racing and street driven applications. This turbo uses a 67mm OD compressor with a 53.9mm inducer to support a remarkable 49lb/min max flow rate. The low inertia 58mm Gamma-Ti turbine wheel is the optimal match for the FMW compressor wheel. EFR 6758 uses the smallest-sized EFR compressor housing, fitting in the tightest engine bays particularly twin turbo V6 or V8 applications. In twinscroll T4 configuration, the 6758 delivers mindblowing fast spool and response while working well on stock and modified engines. Ideal for use in single turbo applications for the 300-490hp range, or as twin turbo applications 550-900+hp. Ceramic Ball Bearing only, watercooling recommended (not mandatory).

Compressor Specifications
■Compressor Wheel OD (exducer): 67mm
■Compressor Wheel Inducer: 53.9mm
■Max Flow Rate: 49 lb/min
■Built-in BOV: All EFR compressor housings incorporate an integrated BOV.
■Compressor Housing: 2.5" inlet, 2.0" hose coupler outlet

Turbine Specifications
■Turbine type: Low Inertia Gamma-Ti Turbine Wheel
■Turbine Wheel OD: 58mm
■Stainless Steel Investment cast Housing
■0.64 A/R T25 undivided (Internal WG)
■Turbine outlet: GT-Vband (aka small 3" vband) ~92mm OD for all EFR turbos


Features
■Dual Row Ceramic Ball Bearings - lowest friction and fastest spool/response, most extreme durability, built-in oil control orifice - (aka oil restrictor) **no restrictor can be used with EFR turbos
■Watercooled Center Section - watercooling is recommended, 14mm banjo bolts
■Double seals on both turbine and compressor end for extreme durability and resistance to any oil seepage
■Boost Control Solenoid Valve Integrated to Compressor Housing
■Integrated Speed Sensor mounting provision

This is I guess their real big turbo...

BorgWarner EFR 7064 Turbo



EFR 7064 is an excellent turbocharger for drift, road racing and street driven applications. The 7064 delivers incredibly fast spool and response while working well on stock and heavily modified engines. The 70mm OD compressor has a 52.2mm inducer and at 56lb/min max flow - there is potential for 560hp - unheard of for this size compressor wheel. The low inertia 64mm Gamma-Ti turbine wheel is the optimal match for the 70mm FMW compressor wheel and is capable of 45+psi boost. This turbo uses the mid-size EFR ported-shroud compressor housing, great for fitment in cramped engine bays. Ideal for use in single turbo applications for the 350-560hp range, or as twin turbo applications 650-1000+hp. Ceramic Ball Bearing only, watercooling recommended (not mandatory)

Compressor Specifications
■Compressor Type: Forged-Milled Wheel (FMW) Extended Tip ** picture of EFR 7064 compwheel
■Compressor Wheel OD (exducer): 70mm
■Compressor Wheel Inducer: 52.2mm
■Max Flow Rate: 56 lb/min
■Compressor Housing: 3.5" Ported shroud inlet, 2.0" hose coupler outlet
■Built-in BOV: All EFR compressor housings incorporate an integrated BOV.
■Connections:
■Inlet: 3.5" Hose Coupler
■Outlet: 2.0" Hose Coupler w/ integrated Vband option

Turbine Specifications
■Turbine type: Low Inertia Gamma-Ti Turbine Wheel
■Turbine Wheel OD: 64mm
■Stainless Steel Investment cast Housing
The EFR 7064 is available in (3) different turbine housing configurations:
■0.83 A/R T3 undivided (Internal WG)
■0.92 A/R T4 twinscroll (Internal WG)
■1.05 A/R T4 twinscroll (External WG)
■Turbine outlet: GT-Vband (aka small 3" vband) ~92mm OD for all EFR turbos

Features
■Dual Row Ceramic Ball Bearings - lowest friction and fastest spool/response, most extreme durability, built-in oil control orifice - (aka oil restrictor) **no restrictor can be used with EFR turbos
■Watercooled Center Section - watercooling is recommended, 14mm banjo bolts
■Double seals on both turbine and compressor end for extreme durability and resistance to any oil seepage
■Boost Control Solenoid Valve Integrated to Compressor Housing
■Integrated Speed Sensor mounting provisions

[SSinstaller]

Originally Posted by Fobio a friend just sent me this...BorgWerner's new EFR line...they're IWG's tho:

That IWG is a work of art compared to the shitty ATP setups...

That would make a great BT for someone not wanting to deal with the EWG headache...