2016 Diesel Mazdaspeed 3 Rumors

[[R]usty]

Originally Posted by Spencer@CorkSport Interesting. I remember seeing that and guess I sort of missed the part about North American sales not being the best. Still. We have seen a Turbo Miata already, so there is hope of some turbos.

@ALPINEST4RS;

That definitely looks like the motor from the Fiat 500 Abarth. I read somewhere that that motor was a possibility for the next miata, looks like the rumors hold some weight.

If that is the fiat motor it's a 1.4L turbo putting down 160HP and 170 ft lbs of torque.

[ALPINEST4RS]

It looks just like it.

No shit... I bet that thing will be a blast to drive. I'd never own a miata. I'm too tall. The top of my head pokes above the windsheild haha!

Wow this is news to me. Do you know if that motor is only for the turbo version, or is it coming standard as N/A as-well?

I at least figured they would shoehorn a 2.0 or even the 2.5 in this for the base model.

[modusoperandi]

Originally Posted by ALPINEST4RS It looks just like it. No shit... I bet that thing will be a blast to drive. I'd never own a miata. I'm too tall. The top of my head pokes above the windsheild haha! Wow this is news to me. Do you know if that motor is only for the turbo version, or is it coming standard as N/A as-well? I at least figured they would shoehorn a 2.0 or even the 2.5 in this for the base model.

The Miata owners who are tall actually make or purchase custom low brackets for bucket seats to drop the height down a good amount lol. Its pretty hilarious to see a tall person get out of the car.

[[R]usty]

Originally Posted by ALPINEST4RS It looks just like it. No shit... I bet that thing will be a blast to drive. I'd never own a miata. I'm too tall. The top of my head pokes above the windsheild haha! Wow this is news to me. Do you know if that motor is only for the turbo version, or is it coming standard as N/A as-well? I at least figured they would shoehorn a 2.0 or even the 2.5 in this for the base model.

Same article said it will most likely be a 2.0 skyativ motor for the NA model. That 1.4 will be an interesting addition supposedly the engine only weighs 250 pounds, that going to be one light ass car.

[Ozynigma]

There are other reports of a cheaper base model Miata as well as a proper sports version. Sorry don't have the link right now, I think it was Wheels magazine Australia on Facebook where I saw it.

[SpencerC]

Ha. that's old news, it was on Jalopnik a few months ago.

Step Inside The Ugliest Little 2016 Mazda Miata Mule In The World

I am betting (as they were) that it's simply from the FIAT, Mazda will probably use their own engines, but maybe they will partner with Fiat for a turbo version, or you will just have to buy the Fiat version to get the turbo.

Also, have you sat in an NC, NB or NA? Or all three? How tall are you?

[Ozynigma]

Originally Posted by someguy Mazdaspeed CX-5 ... now that would be fun, do it all kind of vehicle.

Kinda like my CX7 will be when I complete the mods. No manual option in the turbo CX7 was the only downside and difficult to retrofit a manual from another AWD version.

[ALPINEST4RS]

Originally Posted by Spencer@CorkSport Ha. that's old news, it was on Jalopnik a few months ago. Step Inside The Ugliest Little 2016 Mazda Miata Mule In The World I am betting (as they were) that it's simply from the FIAT, Mazda will probably use their own engines, but maybe they will partner with Fiat for a turbo version, or you will just have to buy the Fiat version to get the turbo. Also, have you sat in an NC, NB or NA? Or all three? How tall are you?

If me, all 3. I'm 6"1'. The NA is a fuggin nightmare. (I have a bad lower back). The NB sucks as well for me. Now the NC is alright, but its just too damn small I feel like I'm smashed in there haha. I think the speed is a little small myself, but thats me coming from A WK jeep, but the seat moves around enough for me to get comfy.

[ALPINEST4RS]

Originally Posted by rustysurfsa Same article said it will most likely be a 2.0 skyativ motor for the NA model. That 1.4 will be an interesting addition supposedly the engine only weighs 250 pounds, that going to be one light ass car.

It seems it runs a GARRETT turbo too. Hopefully it will stand better that that k04

[SpencerC]

Ok, good to hear, I drive an NA and it's tight, I'm 5'11". I hear the NC has a lot more room though, just wasn't sure how tall you were.

Ya Garrett / Honeywell

[Josegarcia020]

If its a diesel it will be fun

[Finchee]

Here's their new hot lap video on VIR. Looks like a regular Mazda3 inside, but looks pretty fast on the track.

Virginia International Raceway Hot Lap - YouTube

Virginia International Raceway Hot Lap - YouTube

[ALPINEST4RS]

http://m.automobilemag.com/features/...l-wheel-drive/

Surprising...

Reasoning I'm saying this is because my source told me about the meeting he's going to with the big dogs.

Apparently it's the mx5 debut. Stay tuned fellas!

[SpencerC]

Maybe. Just more rumors based on ... well rumors. Lol.

I like quotes directly from Mazda myself. Heh.

[ALPINEST4RS]

Originally Posted by Spencer@CorkSport Maybe. Just more rumors based on ... well rumors. Lol. I like quotes directly from Mazda myself. Heh.

Yeah, the problem is what I'm hearing behind the curtains is similar, other than the AWD setup.

[Easter Bunny]

AWD won't be standard. If it's available it will be an option.

[ALPINEST4RS]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny AWD won't be standard. If it's available it will be an option.

Do you think so? I think awd (if it's even legit) would come standard on a speed model. The 3's would stay 3's and so on.

I mean every speed has the same interior setup. Only things diff (on a pu) is tech/non tech.

I think a speed should come fully loaded with diff interior colors.

Maybe a manual / auto option would set them apart too.

[Cevaes_64]

300 AWD Leather, sunroof , and a bigger touchscreen 29, 999. 99 sign me in

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[jrotaryb]

Originally Posted by ALPINEST4RS Do you think so? I think awd (if it's even legit) would come standard on a speed model. The 3's would stay 3's and so on. I mean every speed has the same interior setup. Only things diff (on a pu) is tech/non tech. I think a speed should come fully loaded with diff interior colors. Maybe a manual / auto option would set them apart too.

You're all dreaming - AWD for the speed only wouldn't make sense for them. The Speed only exists and makes sense because it's essentially a Mazda 3 with relatively small changes that don't alter manufacturing costs significantly. The Speed will only get AWD if it's available in the non-Speed model and I doubt that will happen.

It's the same formula for nearly every performance variant, no? They still have more in common with the economy car version that not...most of the different parts (brakes, suspension bits) are just bolt-in swaps on the production line. Hell, for the Speed 3 even the motor was a parts-bin affair just like the Civic SI.

The WRX/STI has been the same process too. I'd guess that only the EVO had significantly more parts that were unrelated to the economy version (like AWD) that bumped up their production and manufacturing costs. And Mitsubishi isn't necessarily a company to emulate...they are a mess.

[Cevaes_64]

They can modify the cx5 awd platform and use it on the speed

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[SpencerC]

They already have an AWD Mazda 3 in Japan, they also have essentially the same platform as the CX5 so it isn't impossible.

[Easter Bunny]

For at least the pu they sold an AWD 3 in Japan...........

[jrotaryb]

Then I stand very corrected I had no idea...

Adding it specifically for the ONE performance variant wouldn't make sense but that sounds reasonable for sure.

[ALPINEST4RS]

Originally Posted by jrotaryb You're all dreaming - AWD for the speed only wouldn't make sense for them. The Speed only exists and makes sense because it's essentially a Mazda 3 with relatively small changes that don't alter manufacturing costs significantly. The Speed will only get AWD if it's available in the non-Speed model and I doubt that will happen. It's the same formula for nearly every performance variant, no? They still have more in common with the economy car version that not...most of the different parts (brakes, suspension bits) are just bolt-in swaps on the production line. Hell, for the Speed 3 even the motor was a parts-bin affair just like the Civic SI. The WRX/STI has been the same process too. I'd guess that only the EVO had significantly more parts that were unrelated to the economy version (like AWD) that bumped up their production and manufacturing costs. And Mitsubishi isn't necessarily a company to emulate...they are a mess.

Exactly what we are doing. Dreaming and having hopes.