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Default L0k1 CS turbo experience

I posted in the other thread saying I did not think that I have the experience for a review but some of you still asked for one plus some logs.

Well I think the install was pretty straight forward. It did take me 12 hours but I have never done anything like that before. Honestly, the worst part of it was getting some of the heat shields off the manifolds. I also did my downpipe at the time and its not as bad as I thought it would be. I did have a huge breaker bar and swivel sockets. We did not have to pull the exhaust manifold or anything off to get the turbo out we just moved some lines and pulled it out the intake side. Note to others that have never done turbo installs; coolant comes out fast ...very fast. My white shirt is now green.

I am being tuned from Ryan at purple drank. I have just my base map on now and its limited at 16 psi. My other mods are in my signature and I will keep up to date on this thread as my tune progresses.

Here are some logs from my K04 tune from Ryan(it was not fully finished when I decided to go CS) versus my base map for the CS. I just got revision 2 so I will post them up as I get them.
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A few questions...

Were all the mods on your sig installed on the k04?
If that is a yes then I assume the maf cal didn't change at all?

10% wgdc looks great at just under 16psi with spark advance a little less than the k04 moving almost equivalent volume of air. Very nice

Also, I would list the mods in the posting because sigs change and people searching for questions in the future may like to have mods with the logs
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The mods that are new with the install are the ur catted dp, the 3 port and the 3bar. Idk about the maf cal stuff.
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Originally Posted by speedfreak44 View Post
A few questions...

Were all the mods on your sig installed on the k04?
If that is a yes then I assume the maf cal didn't change at all?

10% wgdc looks great at just under 16psi with spark advance a little less than the k04 moving almost equivalent volume of air. Very nice

Also, I would list the mods in the posting because sigs change and people searching for questions in the future may like to have mods with the logs
Updated the OP with mods.
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What's your goal out of this turbo and your tune? The power level and anticipated boost since you picked up a 3bar? Plan to run E and/or meth for additional fueling?
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What's your goal out of this turbo and your tune? The power level and anticipated boost since you picked up a 3bar? Plan to run E and/or meth for additional fueling?
I picked up the 3 bar at the suggestion of my tuner. I do plan to run an E85 mix. For power I want to see how far I can take it while still remaining safe for my engine internals because it is my daily. Now saying that I do have another car I can daily if it came to it but my wife probably be upset with me.
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Here is the logs from the revision I got last night.

Today is the first day I commuted on the CS. It drove fine. I could hardly tell a difference. When it pulls it on this map it feels very similar to my k04 on 20 psi but I doubt butt dyno is accurate.
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Originally Posted by L0k1 View Post
Here is the logs from the revision I got last night.

Today is the first day I commuted on the CS. It drove fine. I could hardly tell a difference. When it pulls it on this map it feels very similar to my k04 on 20 psi but I doubt butt dyno is accurate.

Very cool. I look forward to seeing how you progress with this air blower.


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Thanks for posting up! feels similar to the k04? I know you're just starting to tune it so do you notice an improvement so far? I only playing devils advocate as I pressure you would
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Thanks for posting this up, I am itching to get the CS turbo it seems like a good DD turbo for this motor.
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Yeah, still in early stages. Wait until the boost goes up. That is when it gets interesting.
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Interesting in seeing what is possible when it gets interesting :-)
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Interesting in seeing what is possible when it gets interesting :-)
That very interesting sentence structure.


Also I have not got a revision yet but I may be meeting up with my tuner tomorrow and do some street tuning. I will post back the results.
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Hey, how'd you get my picture @Raider;?

I was just trying to book mark this thread and use what the OP said earlier. Made sense in my head......
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Because I could only imagine someone at an 8 posting that.
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I got a new map today from my tuner. Its raining for the next couple days so I probably will not get you guys any logs right away. I am suppose to be up to 20 psi now.
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Better invest in some new tires now. Mine are gone now gone from all these 4th gear data logs.



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Better invest in some new tires now. Mine are gone now gone from all these 4th gear data logs.



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235's Good Year Eagles F1's FTW. I want to see @L0k1; break his stock tires loose on a 4th gear pull.


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235's Good Year Eagles F1's FTW. I want to see @L0k1; break his stock tires loose on a 4th gear pull.


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Well ended up doing some logs today. Also a vdyno shot. Not sure if its fully set up correctly or not.
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Smoothing factory 3, CF 1.01

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as in outside temp?
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as in outside temp?
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I am not on stock tires but not on good tires either. I am running 17x8 rims with 235/45ZR-17 Sumitomo HTR Z II.
I heard the sumitomos were good? At the the htrz111
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IDK, I bought them because they were only 78 bucks each and had a decent rating on tire rack. They only have around 1.5k miles on them.
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IDK, I bought them because they were only 78 bucks each and had a decent rating on tire rack. They only have around 1.5k miles on them.
I didn't realize you got the z11. The z111 is the one I was thinking to get. They like 100 bucks each on tire rack
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I am going to hopefully finish up my tune here in a few minutes guys. I will post logs tonight.
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Okay guys. I spent the day with Ryan working on my tune. I am on 4 gallons of e85. If someone could turn it into Vdyno please that be great. It was 75 out when I did the logs and I weigh a fat 200 lbs.

The car is pulling hard. When he first had me pull on the e85 tune I was taken by surpise in the torque steer. It feels great.
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Looks funny to me though....is this a comparison of last map vs final map or did I fubar something? Both 4th gear, 1.01 smoothing 3 uncorrected as temp were close enough..

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I can't use VD now, but I'm sure you've got very good numbers with this tune !
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Originally Posted by MSP6 View Post
Looks funny to me though....is this a comparison of last map vs final map or did I fubar something? Both 4th gear, 1.01 smoothing 3 uncorrected as temp were close enough..

Did you set the throttle position column of the log to 100 for the entire log before you put it in vdyno?
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I can't use VD now, but I'm sure you've got very good numbers with this tune !

Did you monitored your IDC ?

I'm also curious where you ended up with IDC.
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Originally Posted by mize13 View Post
Did you set the throttle position column of the log to 100 for the entire log before you put it in vdyno?
Ah I did not. My mistake
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