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Default Another attempt at BAT reduction

so, while running errands, I see a sunshield laying on the ground at ABC, I grab it and stop by autozone for some tape, and head home and park in the shade.

after I get some coolant repalced, in me, I get busy with scisors and tape and whatnot

flame suit is on the car

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I'd report on temp changes ( + , - )

but it was a 9 beer job

my chopped up finger didnt help, GODDAMN it is tight in that bay

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Pack that shit with some dry ice bro! Arts and crafts project!
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Da fuck?!?! That looks like straight ass. I don't care if this actually put me negative degrees over ambient I wouldn't do it.


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i ... i just... hmmmmm. wrapping the hot pipe to the intercooler is probably not the best idea either, id imagine thats hotter than the surrounding engine bay air, so you would want that to be able to bleed heat out. Also, you're going to shoot yourself when that duct tape gets hot and the adhesive starts giving out and your engine bay is just one big goopy mess, at the very least use aluminum tape because it has reflective properties, ive successfully used that in engine bays before.
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i ... i just... hmmmmm. wrapping the hot pipe to the intercooler is probably not the best idea either, id imagine thats hotter than the surrounding engine bay air, so you would want that to be able to bleed heat out. Also, you're going to shoot yourself when that duct tape gets hot and the adhesive starts giving out and your engine bay is just one big goopy mess, at the very least use aluminum tape because it has reflective properties, ive successfully used that in engine bays before.
yes @Black Metal used it on the underside of his tmic and a few other places. helped out a wee bit
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Hhaah looks worse then the duct work in my attic.

Anyways just spend a couple bucks on DEI reflect a gold. Would look much less....ghetto-rigged.
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All I can say is wow... that engine bay looks hideous...
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I'm pretty sure he's running l2a, hence the pipes.

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to be completely honest tho i would like to know if this did anything for you since u went through all this effort
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Lmao ROFL I am fucking speechless. It looks like a failed abortion under your hood.
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I decided to take a shit in my engine bay. I find it more affective and easier on the eye.
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What is all that household plumbing hardware doing there?
im guessing he's a plumber and this is how they fix boost leaks???
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What is all that household plumbing hardware doing there?
Home depot is my favorite parts store

Piping is CPVC

type 19 IC from frozen boost

the LAIC has been there for 2 years

the wrap job is an experiment, if it works,..... I am in a bind cuz that engine bay looks like redneck NASA, and I don't see an effective way to wrap the boost tubes neatly, the water pipes I can use the AC pipe foam on, that will be fine, but keeping the radiator airflow off the cold pipe........
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Home depot is my favorite parts store

Piping is CPVC

type 19 IC from frozen boost

the LAIC has been there for 2 years

the wrap job is an experiment, if it works,..... I am in a bind cuz that engine bay looks like redneck NASA, and I don't see an effective way to wrap the boost tubes neatly, the water pipes I can use the AC pipe foam on, that will be fine, but keeping the radiator airflow off the cold pipe........
Unwrap hot pipe to let heat out = less work for intercooler. I personally wouldnt wrap the intercooler either because yes it sits on top of the engine, but it also sits in direct line of where your scoop channels air so i imagine it will be fine. I also would not wrap the hot (hose?) for the water for the same principle, the more heat they can bleed off on their own the less your heat exchanger has to do. Lastly, i have my cold pipes / intake wrapped with things like this to keep them cool and it seems to work quite well. Heat Shield Tape | Heatshield Products it also looks a tad nicer i think.
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Unwrap hot pipe to let heat out = less work for intercooler. I personally wouldnt wrap the intercooler either because yes it sits on top of the engine, but it also sits in direct line of where your scoop channels air so i imagine it will be fine. I also would not wrap the hot (hose?) for the water for the same principle, the more heat they can bleed off on their own the less your heat exchanger has to do. Lastly, i have my cold pipes / intake wrapped with things like this to keep them cool and it seems to work quite well. Heat Shield Tape | Heatshield Products it also looks a tad nicer i think.
hotside pipe I did last for sure, my gut tells me its a coin toss.
question is, is the air temp in that area sufficiently less than the tube temp (warmed by conduction to the turbo outlet, and to a lesser extent convection from intake air.

mebbe its time to get the oven thermometer with remote probe out and see what the air temps are really doing under there

hotside water ir for sure lower than underhood temp

That tape does look good for sure
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hotside pipe I did last for sure, my gut tells me its a coin toss.
question is, is the air temp in that area sufficiently less than the tube temp (warmed by conduction to the turbo outlet, and to a lesser extent convection from intake air.

mebbe its time to get the oven thermometer with remote probe out and see what the air temps are really doing under there

hotside water ir for sure lower than underhood temp

That tape does look good for sure
want to do a quick test, go drive the car around for a few minutes, get it hot you know then come back and park. Place your hand in the area next to the hot pipe, now place your hand ON the hot pipe and tell me which is hotter, and where you think the heat will convect to lol.
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So, that intercooler...

Lowe's or home depot?
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I for one would not at all be surprised if he was hiding an electric supercharger under there somewhere. IR perhaps he taped stuff up to hide something super top secret that...nm even being sarcastic I Cannot keep a straight face OMG
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your engine bay is a clusterfuck man.

and yeah, even tho that's a short section of pipe, unwrap the hot pipe, it still lets heat out.

I don't like wrapping ANY IC piping.
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You're an embarrassment to this community.
all the stuff I've seen here, really, wow. the forum you refer to is what it is, but I think more real info is present here.
because people experiment, and learn

I run an insulation experiment, I know it looks rediculous, looks don't matter, its an experiment under the hood and I want to keep the ecu from pulling timing, .

not that I've found the major ingress of heat to the system, because I MEASURED it

I can take permanent steps to mitigate it

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all the stuff I've seen here, really, wow. the forum you refer to is what it is, but I think more real info is present here.
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I run an insulation experiment, I know it looks rediculous, looks don't matter, its an experiment under the hood and I want to keep the ecu from pulling timing, .

not that I've found the major ingress of heat to the system, because I MEASURED it

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Want to lower bats? use methanol or E85.. Want to lower IATs? Use pre-turbo meth.
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Want to lower bats? use methanol or E85.. Want to lower IATs? Use pre-turbo meth.
well, meth is proven, but has drawbacks in its complexity for one. and the laic is complex enough. these extra pumps have a way of failing

also, you might be aware of the physics behind the way meth works.... and I would prefer to keep charge density if it is possible, so I explored a bit in making it possible
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Fuck me? Fuck you, you fuckin moron hack. You have accomplished jackshit aside from making this forum look lame with this shit thread you posted.... Take some fuckin pride in yourself.

Want to lower bats? use methanol or E85.. Want to lower IATs? Use pre-turbo meth.
not being a Dick but how does e85 reduce bats unless 5th port? I know e85 raises effective octane making high bats less of an issue, but I don't recall anything mentioning it lowering bats.
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