CP-e RMM price increase

[SpeedSixxx]

Originally Posted by Monotonous ONE fuck at first i was thinking this would help my rmm resale value but now no one wants their shit

funny what upping the price on a product unjustly can do to a companies patrons

[jax ms3gt]

With price increases like this my car's value just went thru the roof! I now have a plus 30,000 dollar speed 3!!!!

Love their products, but this is not a good move. Luckily I own almost everything they make already...

[Nliiitend1]

Originally Posted by Karmat May not make much sense but it was meant more as this sort of marginal: mar·gin·al: Economics a. Having to do with enterprises that produce goods or are capable of producing goods at a rate that barely covers production costs. b. Relating to commodities thus manufactured and sold.

Well if that's the meaning you were intending, you used the wrong context...

You used it as an adverb modifying an adjective...not as a noun.

[Broxer]

Man... I was looking at ordering it last night, planned on buying wednesday when i got paid. Guess its time to find a competitor...

[Zbrit00x]

so the guys who have the sure..you got the street or the track r3 mount?

[R.MS3]

Gary@SeriousPEED still got some Cpe's available, i would hurry though.

[speed3willie]

i guess i bought mine at the perfect time!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i just purchased the cp-e rmm on saturday nite for $139 so glad i decided to make a decision when i did

the rpmstore is where i got mine and they have a few left i would get a hold of them

[jdcms6]

cp-e is like the macbook pro...

overpriced

disappointed, just got my tax refund and was gonna purchased rrm from them. oh well...

[JTMS3]

Originally Posted by Broxer Man... I was looking at ordering it last night, planned on buying wednesday when i got paid. Guess its time to find a competitor...

Was the price $139 last night?

Originally Posted by Zbrit00x so the guys who have the sure..you got the street or the track r3 mount?

I have the R3 street. Now donate please sir!

Also.. does anyone know if they were using rubber on the original mounts too? I never looked at them myself on their site until now but they mention using rubber as it with stands heat more than urethane. Can't imagine that change resulting in the 73% overall increase.

[Speed3eak]

Originally Posted by clowncar Honestly even at the old price the SURE piece is even easier to install (no sandwiching the mount when installing it), and theoretically since it has less separate components shouldn't it therefore have less failures?

Eh, not so much - It's just two aluminum pieces that distribute load over the face of the entire bushing, and plus they do have a lifetime warranty... I think that in and of itself should speak to the probability of failure.

I mean, they do make a great mount. Not $240+shipping great, but it is a very good design.

That being said I'm not buying anything from them after the price increase.

As far as a pump I'm gonna wait and see what happens with the new coating KMD is working on and then make a decision - I was holding out for cp-e but after this no way.

This makes me think they're getting out of the mazdaspeed market honestly. We'll see what happens but this does not bode well in my mind.

[Whiteboy]

Just...unfuckingbelievable

CP-E, you have lost me as a customer forever...I don't care if you make the next best thing to slice bread for our cars...what you did is just, unthinkable.

[AtTheDriveIn]

Like I said before...

FUCK CPE

They need to pull their head out of their asses...

[08.5MS3]

Originally Posted by Speed3eak This makes me think they're getting out of the mazdaspeed market honestly.

Then why all the R&D on the new big turbo and the newly released injector seals and TMIC?

[pearl_ms3]

Fuck CP-E. mother fuckers owe me $250 for an inlet i sent back 1 month ago.

[Haltech]

Still no response from them? This is hard to justify why this increase in mount prices. What else has increased?

[banditscout]

Man.... Cp-e makes a great product, but that is STEEP for a rear motor mount. Honestly, no one is ever going to pay that price.

[gigs2000]

Even if we get a response it will be vague and bland, we wont get the full disclosure on why there was an increase. I would like an honest answer at least.

[Speed3eak]

Originally Posted by 08.5MS3 Then why all the R&D on the new big turbo and the newly released injector seals and TMIC?

Big turbo I don't know - maybe they know something we don't. But their "big turbo kit" is a 35R and a cast exhaust manifold and a downpipe from what I can tell. I mean, leen from steedspeed already makes a bitchin manifold and is working on a top mount "kit" with dustin.

Could also be that the new borgwarner AFR turbos are making a lot of that stuff redundant - the design is really amazing from what I've been hearing. Scrolls faster than other turbos, eliminates the need for EWG (has a bitchin IWG), etc. Leen from steedspeed can adapt faster with his build process than cp-e seems to be able to - CNC vs. casting. Plus he offers some amazing prices and his manifolds are damn near indestructible.

I don't know though, I am ignorant to what it requires to produce stuff en masse so I imagine that even once all of the designs are finalized they have to look around to see who can supply what they need in the quantity that they need at a price that they are comfortable with. They have resources though so it's not impossible to get it done quickly. We will see.

As far as R&D for injector seals - silverdemon did that so their development cost was $free

I honestly can't see the R&D for a TMIC being that much. You use mazda's basic design + bigger openings on the endtanks and a bigger core. If you can weld, then you can build one for the price of a core+the price of endtanks. I mean, ETS has two different models for gen 1 and gen 2 - not just shrouds either - and they've been doing this for some time. CP-E's in comparison doesn't seem very well thought out even if it does flow just as well (which would mostly be a product of the size and design of the core IMO)

Plus there wasn't the usual two year hype buildup prior to the release.

[Mizzle]

I skipped to the end.

Explain to me why this:


is $100 more than this:

[08.5MS3]

I meant R&D on the turbo, not the seals or IC! Either way, why pump out all these parts if you want to leave the market? Just do what COBB did and pull some products and not be in the game for a year or so.


Tapatalk

[Speed3eak]

Notice the parts in red

CP-E builds their mount out of the crushed dreams of impoverished children

That shit ain't cheap

[Mizzle]

I'd like to add that the stuff they use to suspend the mount is roofing rubber...

[CCC]

Everybody has been swinging from cp-e's nuts for awhile now. They must have realized and figured that they will more than make up for the sales they lost with the increased profit from the sales they still have. I know nothing about building RMMs but there is no way a change in bushing manufacturer costs them $100 more a unit, they are profiting more per unit than they did before - period.

Unfortunately for them, there is now more options for parts in the mazdaspeed community than ever and with Cobb back in the game they no longer can enjoy their little monopoly. However, I am sure there will still be those who get their band new mazdaspeed and bring it right to cp-e to have the works done to it just because of the reputation of their products.

[Mizzle]

I can understand there will always be brand whores, but you can buy two mounts from competitors for the price of one of theirs... soo.....yeah....

Or you could get it machined yourself and pour some roofing rubber into it and let it set.

[zx2man]

Wow...by raising the price on ONE product, Cp-e has lost many customers according to this thread. Ouch...I agree with Giggles, I can see a typical response of well due to higher cost of raw materials or to deliver better customer service lol...blah blah.

Cp-e has been a good company for us for the most part. I will say 3 products is what keeps them apart from others-

Standback
BT inlet
fuel pump

Sure they make other stuff-intakes,fmic,mounts, but so do alot of other companies, and good ones at that. The SB really was the first true tuning solution for the mazdaspeed iirc. Someone going BT can always fab thier own inlet, but its convienent that cpe has the whale penis, so alot of us go with that. And last but not least is thier fuel pump, highly regarded as the best in the busniess, this is the pump you get when money isnt a big deal, and you want to make aboslute sure you dont fuel cut.

But Cobb's AP is making huge gains and is progressing quite nicely. Also companies like SURE and Corksport are making more products for this car, other companies like Full Race are trying to jump in on the action. So I guess my point is, cp-e isnt the only game in town, and prably need to be more carefull on adjusting thier prices, because their are other options out there, and most just as good.

This is America,people can buy what they want, companies can charge what they want, I as a consumer will always look at quality first, then price, then with 2 products being equal, I then go with the lower price. Hopefully this practice does not continue with other current cpe product line. Time will tell.

[JohnMS3]

Someone mentioned that they went with a different bushing supplier. I doubt that the new bushing is 100 bucks more than the one before.

[velocityspeed]

Ha thats funny Cp-e. Well im happy now that I did not buy any cp-e stuff. I do love my SURE RMM.

[TRex]

i point you to this...
Motor Mounts—-—Engine Components—-—Mazdaspeed3—-—Mazda—-—Modern Automotive Performance
and this...
Torque Solutions RMM

[xfeejayx]

Originally Posted by charlesfist The unrest in Libya that has taken the price up..

I lol'd pretty damn hard. it's the damn oil that goes into making rubber


they jacked the price because they have a backlog of orders...which they had because they were out of stock. in theory, the price should be $69 in a month or two

[Monotonous ONE]

You could get both of these....have damn near 0 wheel hop. And have money left over.

[MattJackson86]

Wow. That is messed up. CP-E must be hard up for money or something. That price increase is ridiculous for something that has not changed.

[mdl3v8]

Originally Posted by clowncar *waits for people to troll cp-e facebook*

I was going to, but that would require me to "like" cp-e first. No thanks.

A few people have, but no response yet...

[turbo test]

i'm pretty dissapointed that cp-e is gonna start rapin people's wallets, but i think i'm more disappointed at how little people have yet to buy a RMM

[Meder]

Cpe makes great parts for our cars and we do pay a premium for them. I hope Cpe has a good response for this price increase. They surely can't think people will pay these prices?

I hope we aren't on our way to losing another vendor.

[speed d3mon]

bought my sure rmm just incase other companies follow

[gtlaw]

the price increase is probably to cover money owed on production of the over priced side mounts that are selling slower than expected

[phillyb]

Originally Posted by Meder I hope we aren't on our way to losing another vendor.

i don't think this is happening...
without msf, cpe's market will be completely polarized.
they need us, and cpe would like to think that msf needs cpe, though i'm not certain of that short of the fuel pump and this bt kit...
two weeks...

[TRex]

Originally Posted by Monotonous ONE You could get both of these....have damn near 0 wheel hop. And have money left over.

info on this?

[dizzydtrain]

Originally Posted by phillyb i don't think this is happening... without msf, cpe's market will be completely polarized. they need us, and cpe would like to think that msf needs cpe, though i'm not certain of that short of the fuel pump and this bt kit... two weeks...

If it hadn't been for that damn fuel pump I would have peaced the fuck out earlier. I am keeping my hpfp order open but I am going to order internals with a glimmer of hope that the cp-e fuel pump will make it's way to my front door in the next 2 weeks.

[MattJackson86]

Originally Posted by Meder Cpe makes great parts for our cars and we do pay a premium for them.

I agree 100%. I have a lot of their parts for a reason. There quality and warranty is really good. I am happy to pay a premium for their parts, but to go increasing their prices on a product that has been out for years at a price other companies also charge is ridiculous. And $100? That's a huge increase. I really truly think they must be hurting for money and are just looking to keep afloat. I cant think of why else they would do it. Problem is that raising costs will not necessarily increase profits as the demand will now drop. Maybe people will still pay the cost though, who knows. I do know though that I would have gotten SURE products if they had been around earlier as they quality looks equal and pricing is good.