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| Not Ranked : 0 score If your tires spin and DSC is on it will correct the problem itself by applying the brakes to which ever side is spinning. With it off your tires are free to do what your right foot tells them to do. Its your choice do what you want. |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score with the car off, hold dsc then start the vehicle. enjoy.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score If you're going to race someone turn it off. You're tires will spin but you'll have faster 1/4 mile times. Just donn't rev past 4k rpm when you drop the clutch or you'll liquify your tires. As for "spirited driving" it really is just a matter of personal preference.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score If you know how to drive, and I mean, really know, you'll be faster with it off.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score That is most definitely not true. Gears 1 and 2 are limited to 10psi with DSC on or off. Get a boost gauge and watch. You can remove this limitation with an AP, SB, HT, etc.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score OP you need the driver mod quick easy way to tell you suck 1. go to autox4u.com 2. enroll in a local autox 3. attend said autox 4. do several runs with dsc on 5. do several runs with dsc off the amount of extra time it took you to complete the course with dsc off is an indication that the computer is a better driver than you. once you can reverse the time difference then you can drive with dsc off and actually have some sort of advantage |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score when i launch i have dsc off, and rev to 3000 and slip the clutch to avoid wheel spin, works like a charm.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score dsc off. You will learn to be a better driver. Only time Id recommend dsc ON would be during rain. most of the time i have it on, but thats cause i dont care on a daily drive. When i wanna have fun in the city, making fast turns, i turn that shit off. |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I never have DSC/TC on. Made it a habit to push the button when I start the car. I don't need the computer to tell me when I should be taking my foot off the happy pedal.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Yah, same here. I always turn it off. I have to remember to turn it on in the rain.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score holding DSC down while turning the car on disables TC and SWAS (Steering Wheel Angle Sensor). With just DSC off it turns off the TC in a straight line, but still kicks in when turning. When I remember, I always turn DSC off off. I just hate the computer jumping in my fun. I actually drive in the rain with DSC off usually, makes starts more fun. |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Holding it doesnt do anything for the gen 2, just press the button once the car is running. You can tell it is disabled by the light that comes on on your dash.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score What (if any) difference does it make when "after" you have held the DSC button while starting the car, then, hold it again for another 10-15 seconds & the light disapperars of the dash?? Dont know if it resets or turns the DSC back on, or just gets rid of the dash light.... Any ideas...????
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| Not Ranked : 0 score It won't let you use the button at all until you turn the car off, and k know for a fact that tcs is turned back on because when I was testing it out, my from brakes grabbed HARD when I was spinning in first. My seatbelt locked on me I flew forward so hard.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Simple question, tricky answer. When drag racing, DSC off for sure. Car will bog down due to wheelspin. When spirited driving (curves, etc) I've found it's better with the DSC on. With the DSC off the tires tend to spin when exiting turns (due the immediate torque). Even if the DSC reacts the limited power almost helps sometimes. This is with summer and or all seasons so I don't know how much different it is with track tires.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score People this is so simple. We have two modes, DSC on and DSC off. When you press the button, the light comes on in the cluster, it is disabled. Press it again, the light goes away, it is disabled. That's all there is to it.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I prefer first gear with DSC off, when I shift into second I press the DSC button to turn it back on. Once I hit 4400RPM in 3rd I turn it back off...this seems to work pretty good for me.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Ok, seriously, just turn that shit off. TCS and DSC is for the random old 60 yr old guy who accidentally buys a speed. It's there so he wont kill himself from the ZOMG TORQUE STEER exiting a corner. Learn to manage your right foot. If you notice, when you go from no throttle to full throttle there is a WHOLE RANGE in between that can be used. Develop those driving skills boys!
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| Not Ranked : 0 score On the Speed6 it also helps for the annoying "falls on its face when you hit a bump and you have your foot in it" syndrome... holy thats ghey...
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| Not Ranked : 0 score A lot of people say leaving the DSC on in the MPS/Mazdaspeed3 results in better times but I have set my fastest laps with it turned off. Its a driver thing tho, if you're a very ragged (bad) driver then DSC will almost certainly make you go quicker. But if you drive smoothly to begin with then I find DSC kicking in can jump in and kill all your speed at the worst possible times. Either way, when you're on the road, please use DSC, always. Nobody cares about your shitty street racing skills and if you lose control and kill somebody because you had DSC turned off and drove like a lunatic then I hope you enjoy your prison term. As for the track, drive with it, then drive without it, then drive with it again. Compare and draw your own conclusions. |
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