ECU Reflash Tuning Solution from Performance Racing

[Performance Racing]

Performance Racing has been working with Piasini engineering to bring Mazdaspeed 3 and Mazdaspeed 6 ECU reflashing over to the US.

Many have been keeping up with the updates, results, etc from the other threads as well as on other forums.

Flash tuning is becoming more and more common because of its ease, cost per hp, safety,

Current:
The first release will be our Stage I reflash.
Not only does our Stage I software give you higher peak numbers , but also peak gains of up to 40 horsepower on a stock Mazdaspeed3 and 37whp on the Mazdaspeed6! This software is the ultimate upgrade for your Mazda and gives it just the extra edge these cars lack from the factory, without pushing the limits. With factory like smoothness and drivability, the new power will fill the void in an otherwise excellent car.

The Stage I reflash can be used with all your bolt on modifications (intake, downpipe, exhaust, manifold, intercooler upgrade, BOV, etc). You will see HP/TQ increases as you add these aftermarket upgrades. All upgrades are also available through Performance Racing

In the future:
Once the community responds to our custom reflash software, and more people get on the boat, things will only get better. I am the sole owner of Performance Racing, and am not int eh business just for money. Many know who I am and a lot about my car from the other forum(s). I intend to reinvest the the money to create better tunes, purchase new hardware that will allow us to better support modifications. This includes making trips to dynos, testing on customer's ECUs, etc.
Our Stage 2 software will been specifically developed to attain the best possible performance from cars with more extensive bolt on performance modifications. The Stage 2 software is tuned on vehicle applications using an aftermarket bypass/blow-off valve, a quality aftermarket performance exhaust system and a good air intake induction system. Furthermore, our Stage 2 software can be used with a de-cat exhaust for race or track use. The tuning style is more aggressive than the basic (Stage 1) performance software, and will typically yield 10-15% more usable power.

Stage 2 will be available, again, once the market responds better to our Stage1, and will be available at discount to those who have purchased our Stage 1 software.

Stage 3/+ reflashes will consist of the most aggressive, yet safest, tune we can possibly provide for you. Suported modifcations will include GT3071/6, and hopefully GT28/GT35 Supported maps as well (You should be able to use our GT30 reflash on a GT28 turbod vehicle, but we will have to do testing first!).

Of course, the GT3071R reflash will be off my car, with a 3" MAF, 3" Turbo Inlet, 3" TBE, 20lbs boost, all the way to redline , using the HKS SSQV (or similar) BOV. Details to come soon!

Updates:
This is where I will post the latest updates regarding the reflash software.
-Coming soon: Throttle Plate Control, 17lbs to 7000RPM by raising rev limiter!

All upgrades use encryption, which serve several purposes. Mainly, it keeps prying eyes out of our software and prevents lesser companies from copying the chip and degrading the product.

How?
How does Performance Racing reflash your ECU?

The basic reflash is very simple. Customer ships us their ECU, we read it, send the file to Piasini and within minutes to several hours, we are sent back an updated file, which we will load back into your ECU. This is done on an individual basis per customer.
We will then overnight the ECU back to customer (included in our pricing).

Group purchases where I can come out to a location of about 6+ buyers, I can flash all ECU is also an option, along with special group pricing.

Last, you come to me. I am located in Orlando, FL and will be happy to flash ECUs, also.. details to come.

You then install it back and are ready to

Flash Tuning Results
Alright, so what do you get out of our basic/Stage I reflash?

As of today, we have results from a Mazdaspeed 3 with just an SRI, a stock Mazdaspeed 6, and stock CX-7.

Basically:
Speed3 w/CAI: 233whp
Reflashed Speed3 w/CAI: 273whp
=40whp increase!
Stock Speed6: 223hp
Reflashed MPS6: 37whp max gains ~260whp

Mazda3 MPS (Stock) Dyno:


Datalogs for 1-3rd gears, only 16psi, look at 3rd gear around 5500RPM, it's holding about 15lbs.

Above graph is with an CAI.

Many more dynos, graphs, etc to come as we progress (will be posted in this thread).

How do I Purchase?
We accept PayPal, Credit Cards, Money Orders, Cash (In-Person only), and Electronic Transfers.

First 20 buyers:
$689.99!
Pricing will be comparable the LEAST expensive PNP EMS out there
Price includes:
Performance Racing's Stage 1 reflash, overnight shipping the ECU back to you (if mailed in), limited lifetime warranty, and our guarantee!
The first 12 will include a variety of Mazdaspeed3/6 drivers, testers, etc. They will get exclusive pricing, free updates, and exceptional pricing on our upcoming Staged reflashes

Reflashing IS AVAILABLE for both Mazdaspeed models, as well as MANY other applications which we will be ale to support from Acura Integras to rolls Royce Phantoms. Having a buddy send his ECU in will count in on the initial orders. Please PM me for other applications.

Also, we are working on guaranteeing the reflash capabilities in the USDM Mazdaspeed3/6. Right now, we are 95% certain it will work, just need to test out some things on a test vehicle, very soon

A LOT more developments are coming soon and many can only be done safely with a complete reflash of your ECU.

I tried to cover as much as I could, so I am sure I missed some points. If anyone has ANY questions, please feel free to post, PM, IM, Email us.

Thank you all for reading and for your interests,
Pathik
Performance Racing

[Haltech]

Looks promising Pat!

[andre0121]

im down asap if group buy even better and im only an hour away from you....yay

[Performance Racing]

That is no problem, once we have the tools here, you're welcome to come by for a reflash

[aaronc7]

wow, i was pretty set on the Cobb AP but will def. be watching this closely. I was kinda like 'eh' when I read about hwo I'd have to send in my ECU....reprogram and get it back. THEN, I saw you were in Orlando and it totally changed, lol. Like I said I'll keep my eyes on this for sure...need price for stage 1! The dyno/datalogs, is that from an actual MS3 you have here in the states or a car overseas (that has the ecu data stuff we'd be getting)

[occschemguy]

hm to bad ur not closer to me, to see if u could figure out a program for my car when i get the build done.

[NYpest]

nothing ever happends in NY like ths .............sucks

[Performance Racing]

Originally Posted by occschemguy hm to bad ur not closer to me, to see if u could figure out a program for my car when i get the build done.

What does your 'build' entail?

[Performance Racing]

Originally Posted by aaronc7 wow, i was pretty set on the Cobb AP but will def. be watching this closely. I was kinda like 'eh' when I read about hwo I'd have to send in my ECU....reprogram and get it back. THEN, I saw you were in Orlando and it totally changed, lol. Like I said I'll keep my eyes on this for sure...need price for stage 1! The dyno/datalogs, is that from an actual MS3 you have here in the states or a car overseas (that has the ecu data stuff we'd be getting)

Pricing will be updated in the next few days.

It will be cheaper than any PNP available for the Speed3.

The above charts are from an Mazda3 MPS (overseas). They produce less hp from the factory. Not sure on the Speed3, but the MPS6 is 260bhp, where it is 274bhp in the states.

[Haltech]

Originally Posted by NYpest nothing ever happends in NY like ths .............sucks

Just go dyno and log with the dashhawk. Should be easy to make your program to flash. Rip the ECU out, overnight it.. have him overnight it back. Done deal.

I mean, the Cobb AP is going to have probably 2 maps. Than they are going to turn it down to a very conservative level. It will be probably 1 year if not longer before we see the software to tune it ourselves.

I dont have time to wait an additional year man.

[occschemguy]

Originally Posted by Performance Racing What does your 'build' entail?

still trying to decide a few details but the block is fully forged and sleeved (eagle race block)then a gt35r or a 3076 and we are still figuring out fuel delivery and programing but we are tring to get in to the 450 hp range at least if not 500hp.

[Performance Racing]

Originally Posted by NYpest nothing ever happends in NY like ths .............sucks

As described in our PM convo, mailing in your ECU is the best way right now.

For everyone else to see an example,
You remove and overnight me your ECU on Monday..
I receive it, read it, flash it, and mail it back all on Tuesday, and you'll have it ready to install on Wednesday morning.

Most people, like me, only have one car, and use it every single day, I understand. Best advise is to get a ride from a buddy, borrow a car (friend/family) or possibly rent a car.

This is the same way that Hondata does it's reflash service.

[NYpest]

Originally Posted by Haltech Just go dyno and log with the dashhawk. Should be easy to make your program to flash. Rip the ECU out, overnight it.. have him overnight it back. Done deal. I mean, the Cobb AP is going to have probably 2 maps. Than they are going to turn it down to a very conservative level. It will be probably 1 year if not longer before we see the software to tune it ourselves. I don't have time to wait an additional year man.

I hear that man !!!! Believe me i'm 70/30 ...but im not to keen on just sailing my ECU around the way .... updates have to take out then ship back >>>kind of a PITA

[Haltech]

I did it on my Lightning before i had to go with SCT when they came around. It works and it was painless. Truck ran butter smooth man.

Little insight.. I had a merkur and superchips did my ECU reflash back in 1991... Gained over 77 to the wheels with the reflash, bigger injectors and wastegate mod. No one knew who they were back than

[NYpest]

there slouldnt be so much leg work for the future upgrades >>>thats whats so nice about the cobb

[Haltech]

That's only if Cobb stays on the ball and continues to release maps. Otherwise, you're in the same boat but with this option, you can continue to upgrade the programming.

[NYpest]

that is very true are we 100 % it works???

[Performance Racing]

About 95% SURE.
We have confirmation the ECU is physically, internally the same, ALL designed using the SAME software from Mazda. All that's left is reflashing the ECU itself on an US car and see what results we achieve, VERY similar to the AUS models, since we will begin with their reflash. VERY safe and effective vs a Piggyback. No lose wires, no wiring, no hassle, and nobody will know what you got

I was even told the MS3/MS6 ECUs are very similar as far as tuning/programming.

[ms3boost]

what will be the boost levels for stage 1 and 2

[NYpest]

Originally Posted by Performance Racing About 95% SURE. We have confirmation the ECU is physically, internally the same, ALL designed using the SAME software from Mazda. All that's left is reflashing the ECU itself on an US car and see what results we achieve, VERY similar to the AUS models, since we will begin with their reflash. VERY safe and effective vs a Piggyback. No lose wires, no wiring, no hassle, and nobody will know what you got I was even told the MS3/MS6 ECUs are very similar as far as tuning/programming.

OK another question! Lets say i have to bring my car in for service and they hook it up to the mazda computer???
will i now have to over night it to you b4 dealer visits so i dont get blacke balled by the dealers??

[Performance Racing]

Ah, great question!

Stock turbo will max out at about 17.8lbs..
As of now, the current flash is at 16lbs from Piasini and is the same in the graphs I posted.
I want to do 17.5lbs, and will be working on this as well, to go into our Stage 2 reflash.

I need an MS3 I can hold onto for a few days lol. If I had one for just a week, I can make several maps.

[Performance Racing]

Originally Posted by NYpest OK another question! Lets say i have to bring my car in for service and they hook it up to the mazda computer??? will i now have to over night it to you b4 dealer visits so i dont get blacke balled by the dealers??

Supposedly, dealers don't even read our ECUs, and from my experience, they didn't read mine both times i went in for a PCM update. They simply update/reflash the ECU.

Also, a side note. If you do have to go into the dealership for a PCM update/reflash, your ECU will go back to stock. In this case, we will reflash your ECU again at no cost.

[NYpest]

Originally Posted by Performance Racing Ah, great question! Stock turbo will max out at about 17.8lbs.. As of now, the current flash is at 16lbs from Piasini and is the same in the graphs I posted. I want to do 17.5lbs, and will be working on this as well, to go into our Stage 2 reflash. I need an MS3 I can hold onto for a few days lol. If I had one for just a week, I can make several maps.

16 psi till redline?....cause mine holds 16-17 till about 5800 now with the forge BPV

[occschemguy]

pasani says they cant find the reflash on ecu all u have to do is tell the dealer not to flash updates in your pc u dont want them and they shouldnt do it.

[NYpest]

ok ok lookin better !! i am going to vegas april 5-10 ???? will you be able to reflash then ??

[ms3boost]

i was thinking 18 for basics like tbe, intake, and bov/bpv and then 20 for that plus manifold, inlet, and fm intercooler
could custom maps be made to compensate my mods and boost that i desired

[NYpest]

Originally Posted by ms3boost i was thinking 18 for basics like tbe, intake, and bov/bpv and then 20 for that plus manifold, inlet, and fm intercooler could custom maps be made to compensate my mods and boost that i desired

oh good ques +1

[ms3boost]

Originally Posted by ms3boost i was thinking 18 for basics like tbe, intake, and bov/bpv and then 20 for that plus manifold, inlet, and fm intercooler could custom maps be made to compensate my mods and boost that i desired

forgot to add cdfp to my basics list

[mrlilguy157]

pm sent. I want stage3. I also just got an email from a friend, linking me to another guy. A local DFW guy is looking for a mazdaspeed3 to reflash.

[Performance Racing]

Originally Posted by NYpest 16 psi till redline?....cause mine holds 16-17 till about 5800 now with the forge BPV

With no tuning whatsoever?

Originally Posted by occschemguy pasani says they cant find the reflash on ecu all u have to do is tell the dealer not to flash updates in your pc u dont want them and they shouldn't do it.

That is correct, PCM updates are not that critical but will be overwritten by our reflash. IF you really want to retain the PCM updates with the reflash, it is possible, but takes some work over at Piasini.

Originally Posted by NYpest ok ok lookin better !! i am going to vegas april 5-10 ???? will you be able to reflash then ??

Sounds good, as soon as we get just 4 pre-orders, we're going to get the hardware and tools here so we can begin flashing (right near the beginning of April).

Originally Posted by ms3boost i was thinking 18 for basics like tbe, intake, and bov/bpv and then 20 for that plus manifold, inlet, and fm intercooler could custom maps be made to compensate my mods and boost that i desired

On a stock turbo, you'll see more gains below 18
psi, so we're aiming for 17.5lbs in our Stage 2.

To add to that, APR, Revo, etc who do the flash tuning on the VW/Audis on a daily basis are using the same exact technique for flashing as we do. I watched as Forge Motorsports (here in Orlando), tuned it's first GTi with the Revotechnik reflash. They use the K03 turbo, at 17.8lbs as well. None allow end-user tunability.

Off topic, I posted this elsewhere, but my friend's GTi (MKV) runs 13.4 with just Intake, TBE, Stage 2 reflash.. currently the fastest known DSG GTi.

[mrlilguy157]

there are a few guys out there with the VF engineering RSS upgrade kits on DSG, proving to have some nice power.

Anywho, the Revo software is end user adjustable with the SPS programmer, which can tune the timing aggression - FYI. I think that is all that it does though.

Keep us updated!

[chisss]

I have a question... You have a Speed6, how come you haven't reflashed yours yet? I mean you should do it and post the dyno results here.

I am more interested on looking at the speed6's dyno sheets than the speed3's since I own the speed6.

If you can do that then that would be great.

[Jesse MS3GT]

Well, maybe. Im still warranty paranoid lol.

[Performance Racing]

Originally Posted by chisss I have a question... You have a Speed6, how come you haven't reflashed yours yet? I mean you should do it and post the dyno results here. I am more interested on looking at the speed6's dyno sheets than the speed3's since I own the speed6. If you can do that then that would be great.

I will be flashing ours come next month, since I will be doing testing on my ECU to create the Stage 3 software.

A stock Speed6 has been flashed, and I will try to get the dyno, if even available, but the gains are posted in the first post, of 37whp at 5500rpm.

Originally Posted by mrlilguy157 there are a few guys out there with the VF engineering RSS upgrade kits on DSG, proving to have some nice power. Anywho, the Revo software is end user adjustable with the SPS programmer, which can tune the timing aggression - FYI. I think that is all that it does though. Keep us updated!

Yeah - I forgot about that lol. it will allow them to switch a map, and tune. He will be getting it once he does his fuel pump, BOV, and turbo upgrade near end of year.

Originally Posted by Jesse MS3GT Anyone know where to buy a speed3 ecu? Cuz I might buy one, get it flashed and just use it on track days. Well, maybe. Im still warranty paranoid lol.

VERY hard to find, but I know a place, $615.

[mrlilguy157]

I have a spare speed3 ECU somewhere in America. I'll figure out where it is, if you're interested.

[Jesse MS3GT]

Hmmm

[Boostedfamily]

Now this is what I like to see. I want to get more out of my wifes speed but I cant "mod" the car if you know what I mean.

[Performance Racing]

Originally Posted by mrlilguy157 I have a spare speed3 ECU somewhere in America. I'll figure out where it is, if you're interested.

Let me know..

Originally Posted by Boostedfamily Now this is what I like to see. I want to get more out of my wifes speed but I cant "mod" the car if you know what I mean.

What she don't know don't hurt..

[mk_slayr]

Congrats on First to Market.

One Question, how does the Flash affect the ECU's learning ability? With the ECU eventually overcome the Flash or will it work to maintain the parameters set by the flash?

For Instance, if I do something to affect AFR or Psi or something the ECU controls and monitors, will the ECU correct itself back to stock by working against and overriding the flashed values or will it work with the parameters set in the flash?

-mk

-just re-read that and I'm having a hard time understanding it. If it doesn't make sense let me know. I'm at work right now and don't have a lot of time to type.

[NYpest]

Im taking the plunge today