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Hi guys!

I bought a SRI+TIP from Corcksport, Cp-e RMM, Cobb AP, Denso itv20 and TurboXs race pipe.
What should I do with this setup? RMM and plugs are already on the car. What about the rest?
Is it ok to put it all on with OTS map for Stage 1 sri+tip tune?
Or maybe I should leave the race pipe for later when I buy hpfp and then put stage 2 map already? (which will take few months).
I have no idea if the RP will help or hurt or maybe make no difference on OTS Stage 1 AP tune.
The spark plugs should be ok with these mods? I don't want go one step colder if I don't have to. I would like to stay "Stage 1" for a while and work on reliability of the car. In this scenario I should probably delete the EGR asap and clean the valves. what next? Any suggestions?
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Since you're relatively new I find it only fair to give you a freebie. Grab a beverage and enjoy:
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...st-read-99499/


Regardless of your experience level, all related information can be extracted from that thread. If there's something you don't understand, post your specific question in one of the linked tech threads. GL.
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Since you're relatively new I find it only fair to give you a freebie. Grab a beverage and enjoy:
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...st-read-99499/


Regardless of your experience level, all related information can be extracted from that thread. If there's something you don't understand, post your specific question in one of the linked tech threads. GL.
Thanks. Went thru almost all what is in that thread, but still have no idea what to do with my race pipe.
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Thanks. Went thru almost all what is in that thread, but still have no idea what to do with my race pipe.
Put it on, get an e-tune.

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So with the rp and e-tune (i saw few tuners at the forum) I can get better results even without hpfp?
Or this is just something to check if my pump holds the pressure or not?
Anyway, e-tune is few hundred bucks, right? so i would like to avoid costs for a while
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You should be running ITV22 plugs (1 step colder) on any tune with the AP, so that is your next step. The race pipe can stress your stock pump to the limits, so you *can* run it on a stage 1, just monitor the pressure during WOT.

I also think you should read this completely:
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You need the colder plugs with the AP per Cobbs recomendations. You can get by running the TP with stock fuel pump with a tune but you should have spent money on the FP internals first.
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I will quote this again today as a recommended power mod path:

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Go NO further until you upgrade your HPFP.
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Thanks all!
I should get one step colder plugs even if my power gains would be around 40-50whp ??
Why would AP need to change the plugs? Are the stock ones already too hot for a stock setup? Anyone tried to run AP stage one on itv20 plugs?
The pressure on the rail should be above 1600psi at WOT, right? I'll probably put intake first and a tune and see how it goes. Last thing I want is a boom!
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fuel pressure at WOT needs to be over 1600psi.

Get colder plugs

DEF. get FP internals.

I personally would wait installing the race pipe until you get internals. After all, the last thing you want is zoom zoom boom. You said it yourself. Why even risk it.

last but not least, E-tunes are 100% more effective then an OTS map.
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I will quote this again today as a recommended power mod path:

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This should be stickied somewhere.
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This is fucking amazing. Just saying. I was searching all around for a suggested order and this was absolutely everything I was looking for.

+1 STICKY please
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So, after reading your advices and few online articles I think I'll go as follows:
I'll put the intake + cobb's stage 1 maps first and play with it till hpfp upgrade.
After upgrade I'll put itv22 with the test pipe and try the stage 2 maps with custom tune.
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So, after reading your advices and few online articles I think I'll go as follows:
I'll put the intake + cobb's stage 1 maps first and play with it till hpfp upgrade.
After upgrade I'll put itv22 with the test pipe and try the stage 2 maps with custom tune.
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Then spend the $200 and get a custom tune (with Lex perhaps).
That's probably your safest bet.
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Throw on the TIP while you're at it. Just sayin...
by intake I mean both sri + tip from CS i've mentioned in the first post.
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What's the reasoning for custom tuning with a test pipe instead of downpipe, considering the HPFP is upgraded at this point?

This upgrade path makes it sound like downpipe/IC upgrades are only worth it after BT?
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What's the reasoning for custom tuning with a test pipe instead of downpipe, considering the HPFP is upgraded at this point?

This upgrade path makes it sound like downpipe/IC upgrades are only worth it after BT?
Cost alone. That path is bang for the buck sensitive.
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Cost alone. That path is bang for the buck sensitive.
With the test pipe alone you can still pass the emissions test (what I've heard).
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