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(Thread Starter) |   Not Ranked : 0 score  Flat foot shifting damage? I am loving flat foot shifting with my Cobb map, I feel it really speeds up progress when changing gear. What I wanted to know is using FFS speeding up damage to my clutch or transmission? |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I heard there was a possible issue with over boosting with FFS enabled, however that was a while ago and hopefully COBB sorted that. As far as drivetrain damage: can't imagine it would be worse then smashing gears normally. With flat foot shifting you could (theoretically) be nicer on the gear box while not losing out on performance. With an instant-spool K04 I can't imagine there would be much to gain with FFS. GTX28/30 on the other hand...
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Now brake boosting on the other hand, not really gonna benefit with the K04, other larger turbos you would.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score If you're missing & grinding gears, you're causing damage. Checking that little box in a program doesn't change that. All of you act like you need this shit enabled in order to do it...
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I KNOW my 335i race would have been way closer had I been able to brake boost. He jumped like 2 cars on me immediately from brake boosting and then just held that lead the whole time. Someone get cobb's ass in here and explain why I have to lose to some rich shithead in a BMW because I can't brakeboost and he can!!! Oh yeah well to all you 2010 fags, I can disable my SWAS by holding down the TC button and don't have to unplug anything so THERE! Lol Sent from my iBro 5 using tapatalk, Bro!
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Go on 2 so you're fully spooled by 3. lol
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For the record, I was speaking for boosted cars. If you go on 2 with an N/A, you're a cheater. 
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| Not Ranked : 0 score A switch for SWAS… that's a great idea. FFS on a k04 apparently makes like .01 seconds difference per shift. I was talking to someone on here from NJ (or maybe it was CWP_MS3?) they said they did multiple runs with and without FFS with two Pu's and there was no difference. Obviously on BT it could make a big difference. Now OP's question, if you do it right, there shouldn't be a problem. But you'll cut your clutch life in half of you do it everyday. And Mega sore ass is right, you can FFS without a tune that has it.
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I'll try again on the way home today.
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^^^ quite nicely sums up every time I try to brake boost... lol
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I Brake Boost, go on the second honk, and FFS when sushi rolling. If I am being a real dick, I will start in third.  The only problem I have is my wimpy ass horn that no one can hear.
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08-22-2013, 01:20 PM
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Ok I admit defeat. Light brake first, then gas (lots of it) I was able to hold 40mph and build 8-9psi before dropping the brake and hammering off. Instant wheel spin. Lol to all those that I doubted... I am sorry. @rfinkle2; don't think your out of the doghouse yet! Lol jk buddy! Sent from my iBro 5 using tapatalk, Bro!
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08-22-2013, 01:36 PM
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I don't know if there is a difference between holding the brake first vs. the gas etc, but there was some sort of particular issue the 2010's do not experience. I hope that the guys have it nailed down as to some sort of sequence there needs to be. If you guys are right, your right... I have no problems admitting I am wrong. |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I've actually found ffs shifting without using it in the ap will get you better times, the bump in rpm between shifts seems to help. I picked up .2 with the same mph, consistent launches, only changing from lifting to full throttle during shifts... just tappa it in...
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