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shaneski 12-17-2014 03:49 AM

Manley Pistons, arrived with not much fanfare
 
Manley Platinum Series Pistons Mazdaspeed 3 2007-2013 / Mazdaspeed 6 2006-2007

Any info on what they are like with oil squirter clearance etc, can't find any info if these have been tested on our platform..Seen Bryce has a set ready for war on his FB. Interested between any advantages with these v CPE stage 2 and Speed performance custom pistons.

EdgeAutosport.com 12-17-2014 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by shaneski (Post 2775499)
Manley Platinum Series Pistons Mazdaspeed 3 2007-2013 / Mazdaspeed 6 2006-2007

Any info on what they are like with oil squirter clearance etc, can't find any info if these have been tested on our platform..Seen Bryce has a set ready for war on his FB. Interested between any advantages with these v CPE stage 2 and Speed performance custom pistons.

We were waiting till they have been ran for a bit on a few cars before we start slinging them. Don't want to get a ton out there and find out that there is an oil squirter issue (though I'm pretty sure there won't be).

As far as comparisons are concerned, they have the Gen 2 style dish like the cp-e pistons and they are about $100 less expensive.

I believe these will be an excellent option for anyone looking to build their motor for mild power or big power.

Turbo_Steve 12-17-2014 10:16 AM

Interesting. I think these are promising. Manley makes awesome stuff. I had manley pistons in my mustang build and not a single problem. Looks like these will put a dent into wiseco piston sales if they work out well.

Can anyone post better pictures of the piston skirts and maybe measure the distance from the top of the piston to the bottom of the skirt at the middle and edge?

I have a set of cp-e stage 2 pistons I can measure to compare for oil squirter clearance.

If I end up needing to go oversized I think I would sell the cp-e pistons and give these a shot.

shaneski 12-18-2014 02:40 AM

@Lumberjack seen your paws on these via facebook can you shed any info. @ms3blackmica @atvfreek..tagging these guys cause if shit is advancing in the DISI platform they are more than likely to have some knowledge of wizardry with parts.

Drive By Fire 12-18-2014 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by shaneski;2776386 [MENTION=28934
LumberJack seen your paws on these via facebook can you shed any info. @ms3blackmica @atvfreek..tagging these guys cause if shit is advancing in the DISI platform they are more than likely to have some knowledge of wizardry with parts.

@LumberJack;
@ms3blackmica;
@atvfreek;

Mazdazilla6 12-18-2014 08:30 AM

Any idea if we can get these is sizes larger than 88mm?

EdgeAutosport.com 12-18-2014 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mazdazilla6 (Post 2776519)
Any idea if we can get these is sizes larger than 88mm?

88mm and 87.5mm are all that is available at this time.

acemanz 12-18-2014 09:22 AM

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Well im not sure if i trust these... i mean its just been confirmed that Edge has been invaded with skynet! LOL!

I have an engine build coming up in a little under a year so if these check out i will most likely be buying them.

EdgeAutosport.com 12-18-2014 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by acemanz (Post 2776556)
Well im not sure if i trust these... i mean its just been confirmed that Edge has been invaded with skynet! LOL!

I have an engine build coming up in a little under a year so if these check out i will most likely be buying them.

Hahaha!! We were just talking about this in the office.

acemanz 12-18-2014 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by EdgeAutosport.com (Post 2776621)
Hahaha!! We were just talking about this in the office.

It's become Self Aware ! ruuuuun ! !


someone get a set of these and stick em in to see if they fit !... or maybe send me some and i will do it :D

LumberJack 12-18-2014 10:31 AM

Manley Pistons, arrived with not much fanfare
 
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I spent some good time on the phone with Manley direct before ordering these Pistons as well as time talking with Justin.

These are Manley's highest model import Pistons. The lightweight platinum series. Manley rates them in stock fashion to about 800 crank before needing to upgrade the wrist pins. Unfortunately Manley doesn't sell those direct because of our awkward stock size wrist pin, they were king enough to inform me of a company they trust and recommended for upgraded pins. With the material and wall diameter I chose Manley confidently said those Pistons will take a 1000whp. The side skirts are very very beefy which is what you want. They use a full steel ring set which is ideal for big power. @atvfreek; might be able to chime in a little more as I know he's got a set as well for a build.

Pic below is my upgraded H13 Tool Steel .260" wall wrist pin vs the .150" wall chromoly stock pin.


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acemanz 12-18-2014 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by LumberJack (Post 2776636)
I spent some good time on the phone with Manley direct before ordering these Pistons as well as time talking with Justin.

These are Manley's highest model import Pistons. The lightweight platinum series. Manley rates them in stock fashion to about 800 crank before needing to upgrade the wrist pins. Unfortunately Manley doesn't sell those direct because of our awkward stock size wrist pin, they were king enough to inform me of a company they trust and recommended for upgraded pins. With the material and wall diameter I chose Manley confidently said those Pistons will take a 1000whp. The side skirts are very very beefy which is what you want. They use a full steel ring set which is ideal for big power. @atvfreek; might be able to chime in a little more as I know he's got a set as well for a build.

Pic below is my upgraded H13 Tool Steel .260" wall wrist pin vs the .150" wall chromoly stock pin.


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i assume that means that anyone who isnt going for 800HP will be fine with the wrist pins they come with, but i think we are all still wanting to see if these resolve the silly oil squirter clearance issue

Turbo_Steve 12-18-2014 01:29 PM

Ahh, oil squirter clearance!

acemanz 12-18-2014 01:36 PM

you dont wanna bend your squirter man, you wont shoot straight if you do... Giggity

Lakespeed6 12-18-2014 01:44 PM

Justin should have a set in my block in ... 2 weeks

Tokay444 12-18-2014 05:29 PM

Interesting there isn't any exhaust valve releifs.

acemanz 12-18-2014 05:43 PM

There don't need to be any unless you have after market cams, or so I have read

JgamB 12-18-2014 05:58 PM

1-2-1 will fix the exhaust valve cutouts.

LumberJack 12-18-2014 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by acemanz (Post 2776943)
There don't need to be any unless you have after market cams, or so I have read


That is correct. Our stock cams actually don't require valve relief pockets on the exhaust side. Even some mild after market cams like the CS spec cams don't require valve relief pockets.


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atvfreek 12-19-2014 01:24 PM

I normally use cp-e pistons in all the builds I do, as I have had excellent success with them. However they have been on back order forever so I couldn't wait any longer. After talking with Alan at edge he talked about these and I'm willing to give them a shot. These are similar to the cp- and pu pistons, have oil squirter cutouts (I will confirm they clear after xmas) and they have long skirts which will help reduce piston slap heard on cold start. I have two motors going together as we speak with these, and then they will also go into Bryce's motor.

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Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 2776934)
Interesting there isn't any exhaust valve releifs.

Standard wiseco's don't either. No issues unless of course you over rev to the moon and float some valves

acemanz 12-19-2014 01:53 PM

Sweet, hope they work out so i can stick them in my gen1 MS6 that im building this time next year.

NCspecV81 12-19-2014 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EdgeAutosport.com (Post 2775635)
We were waiting till they have been ran for a bit on a few cars before we start slinging them. Don't want to get a ton out there and find out that there is an oil squirter issue (though I'm pretty sure there won't be).

As far as comparisons are concerned, they have the Gen 2 style dish like the cp-e pistons and they are about $100 less expensive.

I believe these will be an excellent option for anyone looking to build their motor for mild power or big power.

Do they also make them in 40 over?

Tokay444 12-19-2014 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by EdgeAutosport.com (Post 2776533)
88mm and 87.5mm are all that is available at this time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCspecV81 (Post 2777652)
Do they also make them in 40 over?

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LatinKraze 12-19-2014 09:58 PM

@VegasChef

Micha 12-20-2014 06:32 AM

I might snag a set too for the spare motor I am building. LOL

atvfreek 12-20-2014 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NCspecV81 (Post 2777652)
Do they also make them in 40 over?

They are only made in 87.5mm and 88mm. I would not bore a stock sleeve over 88mm

NCspecV81 12-20-2014 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by atvfreek (Post 2777834)
They are only made in 87.5mm and 88mm. I would not bore a stock sleeve over 88mm

Oh definitely not. Iron ductile sleeves ftmfw.

shaneski 12-22-2014 03:35 AM

Excellent info as usual guys, since CPE's are rare as shit these days have been eyeing these for a rebuild.

EdgeAutosport.com 12-22-2014 10:44 AM

I can't wait to see some motors running with these. I have a feeling they will be an excellent option!

865ms3 12-22-2014 10:59 AM

im about to order a set after the holidays. time to get this build going.

l4nc3r 02-03-2015 02:59 PM

Anyone install a set of these yet? Any issues you all have seen? Wanting to order some soon.

EdgeAutosport.com 02-04-2015 02:16 PM

We've been selling quite a few and no one has let us know of any issues.

Lakespeed6 02-04-2015 02:24 PM

Block is completed should have it running in about a week.

jdmage_mx5 02-04-2015 04:39 PM

Waiting patiently for mine to show up. :)

The Nut 02-05-2015 11:15 PM

Subbed for feedback.

shaneski 02-06-2015 12:29 AM

I just put my order in for a set, if they turn out shit we will be having a group ZZB lol

The Nut 02-06-2015 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by shaneski (Post 2807209)
I just put my order in for a set, if they turn out shit we will be having a group ZZB lol

Everybody is afraid to go first, but Manley's rep for all the other platforms is pretty shiny.

EdgeAutosport.com 02-06-2015 08:56 AM

Yeah I don't imagine we'll have any problems with these pistons...

shaneski 02-07-2015 12:51 AM

Speedperformance have done a few engines with them and haven't had a problem.Looks like CPE missed out on some business with slow restocking of their pistons

The Nut 02-07-2015 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LumberJack (Post 2776636)
I spent some good time on the phone with Manley direct before ordering these Pistons as well as time talking with Justin.

These are Manley's highest model import Pistons. The lightweight platinum series. Manley rates them in stock fashion to about 800 crank before needing to upgrade the wrist pins. Unfortunately Manley doesn't sell those direct because of our awkward stock size wrist pin, they were king enough to inform me of a company they trust and recommended for upgraded pins. With the material and wall diameter I chose Manley confidently said those Pistons will take a 1000whp. The side skirts are very very beefy which is what you want. They use a full steel ring set which is ideal for big power. @atvfreek; might be able to chime in a little more as I know he's got a set as well for a build.

Pic below is my upgraded H13 Tool Steel .260" wall wrist pin vs the .150" wall chromoly stock pin.


Attachment 185234Attachment 185235Attachment 185236Attachment 185237Attachment 185238


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So no reason not to feel confident with the wrist pins the come with for a 500whp (tops) build?


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