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EdgeAutosport.com 05-08-2014 10:35 AM

MZR DISI Remanufactured Long Blocks now Available at EdgeAutosport
 
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Well since we all drive Mazdaspeeds here, we are all familiar with the term "Zoom Zoom Boom". Proper tuning, modding, and driving can save you but it can still happen to anyone. Some will use it as an excuse to go built motor, but some don't need a built motor and just want to stay stock. That is where this comes in.


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This engine is 100% remanufactured using factory OEM parts and is machined and built according to factory specifications to ensure a long lasting, high quality replacement engine. All seals and gaskets get replaced with brand new hardware and the long block is fully assembled, ready to be put into your vehicle and start up quickly. There is no need to get any extra machine work or assembly with this long block.

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This remanufactured long block comes with a 3-year, unlimited mileage warranty against engine defects. Each engine goes through a 9 step process to make sure you are getting the quality and performance that would come with a brand new engine.

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The nine steps include the following:

Engine Identification
Proper Disassembly
Thorough Cleaning
Initial Testing
Machining
Secondary Testing
Full Assembly
Final Testing
Delivery


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Upon receiving your engine, you will be provided with a shipping label that you can send your old engine back with and inside the same crate the new motor came in. The shipping of the new engine is free as well as the shipping of the old engine in return. Just schedule your pickup with us and you're good to go.

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The price of the MZR DISI Remanufactured Long Block for MS3/MS6 2006-2013 is $3940.00 shipped to the continental US. There is a core charge of $460 that is included in the price of the engine. Upon a successful return of your engine core in it's crate, you will be reimbursed $460. If you choose not to return an engine, this core charge will not be refunded and you don't have to worry about any returns.

Click on any of the pictures to be redirected to our site for purchase.



Dimenus 05-08-2014 10:37 AM

Pu pistons?

NCspecV81 05-08-2014 10:55 AM

Wished you guys offered remanf. heads with valve train packages.

EdgeAutosport.com 05-08-2014 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimenus (Post 2575053)
Pu pistons?

I'm not sure. I have one here that I'm about to put in my personal MS6. I'll check with scope before I install and post up what I find.

snailD 05-08-2014 11:49 AM

nice option to have

sleeperstang1994 05-08-2014 03:00 PM

looks like they used a cast iron block for the rebuild. all black? I jest.

Matrix311 05-08-2014 03:04 PM

well priced option for sure.

dale_gribble 05-08-2014 03:35 PM

Can you tell us a little about the rebuilder you partnered with, i.e. their specialty, time in business, reputation, etc.? Also, can you talk more about Machining, Secondary Testing, Full Assembly, Final Testing stages? What do they machine? Does the owner get the test sheet with compression/leak down info? Does it ship with a valve cover and oil pan?

I'm not in the market, and $3,500 for a full rebuild shipped (- core) from a reputable shop seems reasonable. The more info for this crowd, the better.

EdgeAutosport.com 05-08-2014 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleeperstang1994 (Post 2575451)
looks like they used a cast iron block for the rebuild. all black? I jest.

Its actually cast unobtainium to prevent future zzb :biglaugh:

Quote:

Originally Posted by dale_gribble (Post 2575491)
Can you tell us a little about the rebuilder you partnered with, i.e. their specialty, time in business, reputation, etc.? Also, can you talk more about Machining, Secondary Testing, Full Assembly, Final Testing stages? What do they machine? Does the owner get the test sheet with compression/leak down info? Does it ship with a valve cover and oil pan?

I'm not in the market, and $3,500 for a full rebuild shipped (- core) from a reputable shop seems reasonable. The more info for this crowd, the better.

We get them from HERE.

They are remanufactured engines so they have necessary machine work done such as honing and possible over-boring if necessary. Brand new Mazda OEM parts are used for the rebuilds (pistons/bearings/head bolts/main bolts etc).

As for testing, clearances are tested then machining occurs to bring things back into spec. It is then tested again to make sure all the parts are good. The motor is then assembled and checked that timing and all clearances are good. Final testing includes compression results as well as a test to make sure it builds adequate oil pressure.

Here is what it comes with.

Arrives in Crate that you can also use to ship your long block back as a core.

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It also comes with the gaskets and stuff listed here.

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And the test results as well.

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For mine in particular, the only thing I have to get that it didn't come with is an oil pickup tube. Due to the nature of the failure of my engine, I don't trust the one thats currently on it.

This motor does not come with a valve cover or oil pan, but there is an option to get those with it for a few hundred more.

Also, something I forgot to mention originally, I was able to purchase a $50 extra warranty that includes a no fault clause for this motor. In other words if this motor pops on me within 3 years, they don't ask questions and just send me a new motor.

[R]usty 05-08-2014 05:22 PM

Any chance they could reman with aftermarket internals for some extra $$$?

EdgeAutosport.com 05-09-2014 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustysurfsa (Post 2575595)
Any chance they could reman with aftermarket internals for some extra $$$?

Unfortunately, that will not be possible.

trf5000 05-09-2014 10:36 AM

This is a sweet fucking deal. Especially if you need to get back on the road in a hurry.

dan7225 05-09-2014 01:37 PM

bsd delete void warranty?

stock head bolts & friction washers or arp or other?

EdgeAutosport.com 05-09-2014 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dan7225 (Post 2576681)
bsd delete void warranty?

stock head bolts & friction washers or arp or other?

BSD delete will possibly void the warranty. And is Mazda OEM parts for everything.

JgamB 05-09-2014 02:59 PM

3 years unlimited boost - hrmmm, might need one of these. :439:

speed23 05-09-2014 03:22 PM

Thats awesome! Thanks Edge!

Ingle 05-09-2014 03:40 PM

WHERE WAS THIS 8 MONTHS AGO?!?!

...Oh well, forced me to become built with the excuse "There are no other cheap/reliable options." The wife believed me ;)

blackms3_71 05-09-2014 04:25 PM

Wow 4k for a full long block. The fear of blown up isnt as scary anymore. Thanks guys.
Side note : you guys really do great work and continue to take care of your customers and the msf community. Thanks again

PhillyCheese 05-09-2014 04:40 PM

awesome. My Speed6 is at 87k currently. Going strong but I have thought about a rebuild or buying a reman.

predapio 05-09-2014 05:39 PM

Very. interesting.

EdgeAutosport.com 05-12-2014 01:02 PM

Since I'm putting this Long Block in my personal car, I figured I would start a thread to document it. If anyone is interested, you can follow that here.

Project Six Flip

So far, the bad engine has been removed and now I need to swap all the accessories over to the new engine.

EdgeAutosport.com 06-04-2014 09:29 AM

Update on this. I finally got to check and it looks like the pistons used in this engine are the gen 1 style pistons. That being said, I did order it for a 2006 speed 6 and since they use OEM parts, that may be why. I don't know though if you were to order one for a Gen 2 speed 3 if it would come with the updated pistons...

This is how everything is sitting right now. Had to clean up the Oil Pan real good and now that the sludge is out I have to make sure and get all the little chunks of rod bearing out.

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alextheguineapig 06-04-2014 06:40 PM

Awesome project! Wish I had the toys and time to get to work on something like this.

maddocx240 06-04-2014 09:00 PM

@EdgeAutosport.com; so they just use the Oem mazdaspeed rods too. I figured you could at least get stronger rods than Oem? That would be a great selling point you could run by them.

FSUMazdaSpeed 06-04-2014 09:24 PM

@chasewiese;

Hargarbl 06-04-2014 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddocx240 (Post 2607687)
@EdgeAutosport.com; so they just use the Oem mazdaspeed rods too. I figured you could at least get stronger rods than Oem? That would be a great selling point you could run by them.

I agree completely, maybe just have it as an option where it would just be a difference in price between the 2. Although going by your website, and correct me if I'm wrong on this, but a set of Manley H beams are $360, where a single Oem rod is $136, so wouldn't it actually be cheaper using the aftermarket stronger rods? Now I do realize the rebuilder gets the parts at a fairly well discounted price then what we the consumer would pay, but I would think with the price difference it would almost break even.

SpeedThrizzle 06-04-2014 10:10 PM

Now I will never have to get rid of my gen1 for a PU! Edge FTMFW!!!!

ArmanRus 06-04-2014 11:33 PM

I read that if you want to use aftermarket rods with OEM pistons, the rods have to be machined to fit. Or vice versa. That will add cost, and they may not be able to warranty the engine. @Tokay444;

magicka 06-05-2014 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArmanRus (Post 2607776)
I read that if you want to use aftermarket rods with OEM pistons, the rods have to be machined to fit. Or vice versa. That will add cost, and they may not be able to warranty the engine. @Tokay444;

Edge carries Eagle and Carrillo rods that will work with OE pistons (22.5 mm wrist pin). I think that Molnar does as well.

kvg823 06-05-2014 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCspecV81 (Post 2575080)
Wished you guys offered remanf. heads with valve train packages.

@EdgeAutosport.com; Can you get a deal on these?

2006 Mazda 6 cylinder heads 2FGFR

I pull the head off this weekend to determine the extent of the damage and if it is just in the valvetrain I will be in the market. Otherwise I will be facing the @Ingle;

Quote:

Oh well, forced me to become built with the excuse "There are no other cheap/reliable options." The wife believed me
Dilemma with the wife.

Tokay444 06-05-2014 06:52 AM

It's not the wrist pin that needs to be modified to fit oe pistons.
Manley has rods with 22.5mm pins as well. It's the small end that need to be tapered to fit the piston.

magicka 06-05-2014 10:21 AM

I would have sworn that at one point @Dano; ran Carrillos and Gen Pu pistons without machining. His Trail of Fail™ is too long to page through on my phone, through.

Edit:

The first post in "Dano's build part duex" has the outline of the build. No mention of machining early on, although the thread runs to 57 pages on Forum Runner. It could still be buried in there.

Dano 06-05-2014 02:54 PM

Yes you can order the Carrillos with the OE taper, Edge did not have them in stock but drop shipped them from Carrillo...they are the only rods you can do that with AFAIK.

EdgeAutosport.com 06-05-2014 03:47 PM

Unfortunately there will be not semi built motor options with these engines. They are just remanufactured to OEM spec and the company that does it doesn't have any interest in doing custom builds. If you need a built block, I suggest a cp-e shortblock or Freekbuilt engine.

And like Dano said, the carrillos are the only ones that fit with stock pistons and those are quite a bit more expensive than OEM.

JSmith 06-05-2014 04:01 PM

Will they rework just the head? They never returned my email inquiring.

EdgeAutosport.com 06-05-2014 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSmith (Post 2608561)
Will they rework just the head? They never returned my email inquiring.

yeah it appears they have a head only option. I'm waiting on a response.

JSmith 06-12-2014 02:57 PM

@EdgeAutosport.com;

Ever hear back on this?

Dano 06-12-2014 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdgeAutosport.com (Post 2608576)
yeah it appears they have a head only option. I'm waiting on a response.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSmith (Post 2615699)
@EdgeAutosport.com;

Ever hear back on this?


yes and does the head only option come w happy ending...guessing so but inquiring minds....

EdgeAutosport.com 06-13-2014 11:03 AM

We will be adding the Head to our site shortly. It will be $984 for the reman head plus a $175 core charge. As of right now, there is a 2 to 3 week lead time on them.

EdgeAutosport.com 07-16-2014 08:28 AM

Well the install in my MS6 went well. After sorting out the oil return line issue for the EWG GTX3071 which was the only real snag I ran into during the install, I was able to get the car up and running and got some break in miles on it before delivering it to Texas on Friday to meet up with its new owner.

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The final install went smoothly as well as the 14hr drive from Denver to East Texas. For anyone considering getting this engine for themselves, it is about as easy as it gets for coming back from a zzb or similar failure.

If you have any questions, feel free to let me know and I'll be happy to help!


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