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Edge you should make a kit with a t3 mani and other pte turbo options that don't come with a vband housing. Us people that like to turn don't need massive power numbers from these turbos. I believe a 5130 would be a great track/ax turbo.

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Edge you should make a kit with a t3 mani and other pte turbo options that don't come with a vband housing. Us people that like to turn don't need massive power numbers from these turbos. I believe a 5130 would be a great track/ax turbo.

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There's no need for any turbo between a bnr and a 5858, so I see very little marker for something like that. Plus they already offer the full-race kit for little turbos.
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Hmmm sub for future ms6 kit

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Originally Posted by Realgib3 View Post
There's no need for any turbo between a bnr and a 5858, so I see very little marker for something like that. Plus they already offer the full-race kit for little turbos.
Sure there is. I could piece together my own kit with a 5130 and be significantly less money than a full race kit. The 5130 would also out perform the small frame efrs imho.

The bnr tops out at what 400 420 at its limit. So it will be breathing fire up top just like the k04 does when pushed to the max.

The 5858 is rated for 620 thats a big gap between it and the s3.
On a ms6 I might agree with u. But on a speed I see 0 need for more than about 500 if your doing road course work. So why not run mid 4 hundreds on a turbo that wouldn't be at its limit. Like a 5130

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Figure this is the appropriate thread to ask this question, I haven't been able to find a solid answer anywhere.

Do you guys know if the MS6 eBay M2 downpipe mates up to a precision v-band turbo?
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Sure there is. I could piece together my own kit with a 5130 and be significantly less money than a full race kit. The 5130 would also out perform the small frame efrs imho.

The bnr tops out at what 400 420 at its limit. So it will be breathing fire up top just like the k04 does when pushed to the max.

The 5858 is rated for 620 thats a big gap between it and the s3.
On a ms6 I might agree with u. But on a speed I see 0 need for more than about 500 if your doing road course work. So why not run mid 4 hundreds on a turbo that wouldn't be at its limit. Like a 5130

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First, but least importantly, the 5858 is rated to 590hp.

The key mistake you're making here is trying to judge these turbos strictly based off the maximum HP potential, which is the worst possible thing you could do, but almost everyone seems to do this.

For instance, my 6466 is rated to a ridiculous 900hp... but it's the PERFECT turbo for 600whp, considerably less than the maximum hp rating.

If you're trying to save money and just want a cheaper kit put together, I completely understand, however if you're not looking for the 425-525whp the 5858 is perfect for, you can just save a ton of money by going with a bnr or bolt-on ATP.
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Originally Posted by Realgib3 View Post
First, but least importantly, the 5858 is rated to 590hp.

The key mistake you're making here is trying to judge these turbos strictly based off the maximum HP potential, which is the worst possible thing you could do, but almost everyone seems to do this.

For instance, my 6466 is rated to a ridiculous 900hp... but it's the PERFECT turbo for 600whp, considerably less than the maximum hp rating.

If you're trying to save money and just want a cheaper kit put together, I completely understand, however if you're not looking for the 425-525whp the 5858 is perfect for, you can just save a ton of money by going with a bnr or bolt-on ATP.
No it's not. There is no way the 5858 spools fast enough for my needs.

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No it's not. There is no way the 5858 spools fast enough for my needs.

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The 5858 will pretty easily see 20psi <3500rpm and have fantastic transient repsonse (which is what matters even more)... So you're saying your needs are something that spools even faster than that, but NOT a Bnr or bolt-on 28r?

If that's the case, then I'll restate that I believe you're part of a an extremely narrow market and it would make little sense for Edge or Kozmic to put time into development of such a kit.
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Does anybody have this kit installed yet? Pictures? I'm very close to saying fuck it and ordering!!lol
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Does anybody have this kit installed yet? Pictures? I'm very close to saying fuck it and ordering!!lol
I'll have it all installed by Wednesday hopefully. Clamps werent included like edge and I assumed so thats holding progress up.

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I'll have it all installed by Wednesday hopefully. Clamps werent included like edge and I assumed so thats holding progress up.

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Interesting considering I bought this exact same kit last month.

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Now I got a turboner thanks

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What turbo u get?

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I got a 5558 . 82 ar. Here is me looking gay with it.Attachment 150916

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Well that pisses me off. I got the 5558 also. Waiting for my parts to get in still. When I was going over the build with JP I saw that nobody else had it. You beat me to it. (insert angry face here)

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Damn. So your the reason I'm waiting so long for my parts to get in lol. I'm just jealous. Let me know how the install goes. Won't be able to do mines until next month unfortunately.

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Hope you guys didnt overlook clamps like Eric and I did when piecing it all together. None of that ish has vband clamps.

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Hope you guys didnt overlook clamps like Eric and I did when piecing it all together. None of that ish has vband clamps.

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I also overlooked the clamps so I'm waiting on those and all of the stuff from Kozmic. This waiting sucks ass. Lol. But I'm sure the wait is going to be worth it.
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Originally Posted by Misfit_S3 View Post
I also overlooked the clamps so I'm waiting on those and all of the stuff from Kozmic. This waiting sucks ass. Lol. But I'm sure the wait is going to be worth it.
Dude ur in El Paso. That's awesome. I'm moving there in a few months.

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@Hanzodurrr; did the wastegate come with clamps? The only clamps I ordered were the ones to attach the turbo to the manifold and to attach the downpipe to the turbo.

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Originally Posted by Misfit_S3 View Post
@Hanzodurrr; did the wastegate come with clamps? The only clamps I ordered were the ones to attach the turbo to the manifold and to attach the downpipe to the turbo.



I hope your expectations aren't too high. Lol. It's ok here. Could be worse, could be better.
The wastegate has clamps as stated above.

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@Hanzodurrr; did the wastegate come with clamps? The only clamps I ordered were the ones to attach the turbo to the manifold and to attach the downpipe to the turbo.



I hope your expectations aren't too high. Lol. It's ok here. Could be worse, could be better.
I'm just glad there's someone else there. I know the mazda scene isn't that great there.

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The wastegate has clamps as stated above.

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Originally Posted by ABolewski View Post
Figure this is the appropriate thread to ask this question, I haven't been able to find a solid answer anywhere.

Do you guys know if the MS6 eBay M2 downpipe mates up to a precision v-band turbo?
I highly doubt it! It isn't going to be the same exact style vband as the precision turbo.

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Lol they can have one of mine
If you want to ship it to them I'm sure they would be able to work with that... lol!

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I'm pretty sure you guys ordered on the same day or a day apart, either way it was really close...

And the clamps are now included in the kit for sure.
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Lmao. That's what I get for not reading the whole post. Thanks man. As of now I have the fastest speed in town which doesn't say much about this place. There's a decent amount of speeds here and we get together every week or two. I tried to start a local Nator but they are lazy and cheap and don't want to make a profile and pay $25 so it's on them. A lot of the guys come over my house for installs. So you and I would make the only BT ones here. I'm keeping mine a secret until I get the tune done then I'll release the Keaken.
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Originally Posted by EdgeAutosport.com View Post
I highly doubt it! It isn't going to be the same exact style vband as the precision turbo.



If you want to ship it to them I'm sure they would be able to work with that... lol!



I'm pretty sure you guys ordered on the same day or a day apart, either way it was really close...

And the clamps are now included in the kit for sure.
That's kool. I called JP and he got the clamps for me so they'll be shipped with everything else. All I have to do now is wait wait wait.

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Originally Posted by EdgeAutosport.com View Post
I highly doubt it! It isn't going to be the same exact style vband as the precision turbo.



If you want to ship it to them I'm sure they would be able to work with that... lol!



I'm pretty sure you guys ordered on the same day or a day apart, either way it was really close...

And the clamps are now included in the kit for sure.

Lol ship??? I will drive her down right now and fly back if needed I have the next week off from school and work and with no parts here yet and no shop to tinker she is just sitting in the barn!!!
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Got ahold of Kozmic and it looks like my downpipe and dump tube won't be done until late this week so my install may be pushed back until the following weekend. Kinda blows but what can ya do? Lol
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Got ahold of Kozmic and it looks like my downpipe and dump tube won't be done until late this week so my install may be pushed back until the following weekend. Kinda blows but what can ya do? Lol
Hey I'm waiting on the cp-e top mount I ordered. I was told it's the only thing on back order but everything else is being shipped. At least you won't be in the field for 3 weeks when your order gets in like I will.

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Hey I'm waiting on the cp-e top mount I ordered. I was told it's the only thing on back order but everything else is being shipped. At least you won't be in the field for 3 weeks when your order gets in like I will.

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Wow that's an awesome kit for a great price. I would love to run a precision turbo so maybe when I get bored I will make the switch.

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Quick update. Just spoke with David at Kozmic and all of their stuff from the kit just shipped so hopefully the install will be done this weekend!!!
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Quick update: cp-e is backed up on tmic for another 3-4 weeks (just my luck). I just called JP at edge and had him refund me and charge me for a TR8 core. Now I just gotta buy piping.

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You can get the Cobb piping and Edge offers the same military discount on Cobb parts that Cobb offers.
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Just took delivery of the wastegate and the HTP intake. Almost there!!!
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Just took delivery if the wastegate and the HTP intake. Almost there!!!
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Originally Posted by Misfit_S3 View Post
Fixed for the grammar Nazi ^ lmao
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Originally Posted by Realgib3 View Post
The 5858 will pretty easily see 20psi <3500rpm and have fantastic transient repsonse (which is what matters even more)... So you're saying your needs are something that spools even faster than that, but NOT a Bnr or bolt-on 28r?

If that's the case, then I'll restate that I believe you're part of a an extremely narrow market and it would make little sense for Edge or Kozmic to put time into development of such a kit.
I haz this kit with a 5858jb and @atvfreek; has this thing spooled up to 20psi by 3,700rpm give or take.
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