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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score I've also got a blog that I am updating with content which you can view here: https://mazdaspeedbuild.wordpress.com Meanwhile, I've attached a couple of pics from along the way!
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| Not Ranked : 0 score hey man, nice build thread pretty informative. But for the headstuds, are you using ARP2000? the black headstuds. the one that costs $180+ ? those have a 99% failure rate as they arent made to withstand the pressure in the cylinder for Forced induction car. AFAIR it was made for the N/A 2.3 not sure if you want to change it but its suggested to replace it with a better stud like L19 (edgeauto sells it) or freektune custom headstuds and lastly SP63 CA 625+ (speedperformance) those are the only 3 headstuds that works well with this platform. |
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That's a bit scary! I got these from Edge - hopefully they are the right ones...at least on the Edge site it says for Mazdaspeed?
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Those bolts fit there but some older thread talk about the oem bolts that could hold better than arp2000 if you go high boost. Peoples going high boost are using larger stud from ARP but the thread needs to be machine worked.... https://edgeautosport.com/arp-l19-he...-st-2013-2017/ I never personally used ARP2000 but ran new oem bolt up to 27psi without any problems using a perfectly machined head and block face.... If i remember right, the stories behind lifted heads with arp2000 doesn't specify if both surface have been machined before install and there was something about using factory torque spec instead of ARP specs.... Documented list of all head lifting failures Lets Talk About Head Studs
__________________ Mazda for life...or until i can afford something better... 2007 rusted Speed6... Forged with meth and a 3076 in progress... 1993 Ford Probe KLZE 143dB 2012 Mazda3 Gs-sky 6.5l/100 when transporting speed parts 1989 GM 6.2 diesel pickup Wife drive 2010 CX7 2007 speed3 burned (i'm proud to ran 12.7s with it) ...Because French Canadian... If you check for leaks and you didn't made a test under compressor pressure, you aren't done checking for leaks.... Last edited by Jeff23spl; 09-30-2019 at 08:58 AM. Reason: MSF Database - Automerged Doublepost |
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score We're "only" running 20 psi so a relatively mild tune but still putting out about 320wtq/320whp, so all I can do now is hope the ARP studs will hold. We did get the block and head surface machined so hopefully that will help also. We used the ARP torque spec, not the OEM one. Those L19 studs are crazy expensive! Attached is the dyno graph from Alan at Edge Autosport. One note is that when we took it down to Edge for the tune we realized that we still had 4 month old gas in the car from May when we started the build. Alan was getting some knock so he had to pull a degree of timing to keep the knock under control. We should be getting a 340whp but I'll need to bring it back down for a tweak if we want to get that. Once I filled it up with a fresh tank of gas the knock retard almost totally went away.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score anyway, it's too late to change anything about the bolts. even just the torque would need cams removal and the pita timing job and front cover sealant replacement....
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