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[mr.speedy3]

Someone get this man an O2 for his R&D efforts!

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by Enki Spray with PB blaster, tighten, loosen, repeat. Don't force it and it should eventually work itself out without pulling the threads off. The secret is patience.

2 hrs later.... I'm at like 45 degrees, Come on baby!!! Has the manufacturer not heard of anti seize? This is retarded...


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Originally Posted by mr.speedy3 Someone get this man an O2 for his R&D efforts!

I have not broken it... Yet.


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[Dano]

keep at it and hopefully it will break free. too late for you now but the way to get PB plaster to work the best is to spray it on warm (to the touch not HOT) parts. I guess the warmer surface combined with the rust eating catalyst in PB makes for a better environment for it to do it's work.

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by Dano keep at it and hopefully it will break free. too late for you now but the way to get PB plaster to work the best is to spray it on warm (to the touch not HOT) parts. I guess the warmer surface combined with the rust eating catalyst in PB makes for a better environment for it to do it's work.

I have a torch... . Might need it.

Ignorance is not bliss:
With out any penetrating oil, I grabbed my O2 sensor tool broke the threads loose it started coming out. Then out of no where it stopped. I then decided it to be a good idea (6 beers in) to get my huge torque wrench and put it to 120 ft lbs (reverse) and pushed until it clicked. I then said to myself... Fuck that's a lot of feet. So I then tried to thread it back in... No dice. So I am just working it back and forth, back and forth, back and forth spraying wd-40. I'll have to get some PB blaster on my way home. I am pretty frustrated.


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[Easter Bunny]

Originally Posted by littleloogy Car is out of commission for a while. K04 started to go out, new turbo install has come to a halt. I got Drunk

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Originally Posted by littleloogy Has the manufacturer not heard of anti seize? This is retarded...

honestly as many O2 sensors as are cross threaded on these cars, i think the fucker installing them at the factory is either not qualified to put a bolt in a threaded hole or is doing it on purpose.

though it could be a backhanded check for mods after a blown motor,

Mazda Corporate: is the O2 cross threaded and seized?

Tech: no came right out.

Mazda: claim denied, it was cross threaded from the factory.

[ALPINEST4RS]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny fixed honestly as many O2 sensors as are cross threaded on these cars, i think the fucker installing them at the factory is either not qualified to put a bolt in a threaded hole or is doing it on purpose. though it could be a backhanded check for mods after a blown motor, Mazda Corporate: is the O2 cross threaded and seized? Tech: no came right out. Mazda: claim denied, it was cross threaded from the factory.

^100% argee. I had to impact one off a few weeks ago and rethread the downpipe bung. Happens alot here.

The trick is to try to remove it when the car is hot/warm too.

[Easter Bunny]

You said bung.

[Dano]

Originally Posted by ALPINEST4RS The trick is to try to remove it when the car is hot/warm too.

This x 100

[sho]

50/50 mix of acetone and ATF works a million times better than pb blaster

[Dano]

Maybe true but the delivery method of PB sure is handy.

Tappin

[littleloogy]

Holy shit... Fuck .


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[Easter Bunny]

How the fuck does that even happen?

[Amnesiac]

That's just what mine looked like when I took it out this weekend. I had to re-tap the hole and buy a new o2 sensor. Hope you have better luck!

[tegxsi]

Originally Posted by littleloogy Holy shit... Fuck .

How's it look on the DP?

Edit: That's a really clean looking o2 sensor. lol

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by tegxsi How's it look on the DP? Edit: That's a really clean looking o2 sensor. lol

I am so fucking pissed. This is some bull shit. I'll just JB weld it back in there. Fuck it.



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[tegxsi]

They have helicoil thread repair kits for oxygen sensors...I don't know how well they work.

Edit: Probably better of buying a cheap DP

[littleloogy]

Looking at downpipes a now, but I really wanted to keep it stock looking. Funny story, the downpipe came right out...


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[Dano]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny How the fuck does that even happen?

100% corn on a K04 baby! EGT > 2000.


but really that sucks.

but really that could be due to high EGTs. Might account for the cleanliness of the O2 sensor as well.

[hatchedspeed3]

Originally Posted by littleloogy Holy shit... Fuck . Sent from my iPhone 6

Dont let that shit spark! Caused issues in @kbz0129;s car for weeks! @Captain KR;

Originally Posted by littleloogy Looking at downpipes a now, but I really wanted to keep it stock looking. Funny story, the downpipe came right out... Sent from my iPhone 6

unless you can cut/weld (which wouldnt surprise me), bring the o2 bung 30ish degrees counter clockwise. Should give you enough room to play

[mr.speedy3]

Originally Posted by hatchedspeed3 Dont let that shit spark! Caused issues in @kbz0129;s car for weeks! @Captain KR; unless you can cut/weld (which wouldnt surprise me), bring the o2 bung 30ish degrees counter clockwise. Should give you enough room to play

Worst case scenario he can just bring the DP to an exhaust shop and get a new bung welded on for a few bucks. Cheaper than a new DP. Or helicoil it


tapatalkin

[Easter Bunny]

jb weld!

[littleloogy]

If I can clean up the threads with my tap then Ill buy a new O2 sensor. If not @Easter Bunny; called it. Lots of JB


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[Easter Bunny]

Do you have a die set to clean up the threads on the sensor?

[littleloogy]

I might at the machine shop. Anyone know the thread size?


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[ALPINEST4RS]

Good question. I just used my standard o2 tap.

You may be able to rent a tap at an autoparts store and do it. At this point hand start it and run it. Really nothing to lose with that fuckery going on.

[Amnesiac]

From everything I read it's M18 x 1.5, but I didn't confirm it.

[WetzMS3]

Originally Posted by littleloogy I might at the machine shop. Anyone know the thread size? Sent from my iPhone 6

I ripped my o2 sensor out the same way. Looked exactly like your picture.

I have the old one with part of the DP threads somewhere at home. If I can get enough of the DP side of it off, I'll measure it to verify the size for you tonight.

[Spec]

Originally Posted by littleloogy 2 hrs later.... I'm at like 45 degrees, Come on baby!!! Has the manufacturer not heard of anti seize? This is retarded... Sent from my iPhone 6 I have not broken it... Yet. Sent from my iPhone 6

Can you get a flat head under it anywhere? Try to pry up on it while you loosen and let the penatrating fluid soak in and give it the beans.

If it's already this big if a pain in the ass, I'd source a tap to chase the threads too. The threads of the o2 are probably sheared off inside the bung.


Sorry, tapasuck started me out 2 pages in.

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by Spec Can you get a flat head under it anywhere? Try to pry up on it while you loosen and let the penatrating fluid soak in and give it the beans. If it's already this big if a pain in the ass, I'd source a tap to chase the threads too. The threads of the o2 are probably sheared off inside the bung. Sorry, tapasuck started me out 2 pages in.

I will tap tonight. It looks to me that the O2 sensor lost most of its threads in the downpipe. I will pick up a new O2 sensor on the way home from work. And some anti-seize. Even if I can clean the threads up on the sensor, I did get a lot of PB blaster on the probe itself, so I should get a new one anyway.

Originally Posted by AwAfrican @littleloogy; where are you with your install / tuning?

Hit a brick wall my friend.



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[Spec]

Originally Posted by littleloogy I will tap tonight. It looks to me that the O2 sensor lost most of its threads in the downpipe. I will pick up a new O2 sensor on the way home from work. And some anti-seize. Even if I can clean the threads up on the sensor, I did get a lot of PB blaster on the probe itself, so I should get a new one anyway. Hit a brick wall my friend. Sent from my iPhone 6

Get a 90* small pick and you should be able to get some of the threads clean with that. Harbor freight has a cheap little set of 4 picks with orange handles for like 2$, work for what you need.

[Easter Bunny]

Its not really a stressed piece. If you can get it to thread back in and feel secure it should be fine.

Aren't o2 Sensors like $200?

[g00s3y]

The front I'm not sure, I know the rear o2 sensor can be bought off Amazon for around $60. I know because I had to replace mine.

[Amnesiac]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny Its not really a stressed piece. If you can get it to thread back in and feel secure it should be fine. Aren't o2 Sensors like $200?

They are ~$100 on rock auto and amazon.

[MSP6]

Various manufacturers (bosch, denso etc) are all around $100 on Rock Auto

*Edit* @Amnesiac; beat me to it

[littleloogy]

Amazon is only $60??? The local auto parts store tried to rape me $400 for a new one. But right now the 02 sensor is the least of my worries.
I broke a socket trying to get the turbo support plate off and rounded the bolt head. My god they are way over torqued for that size of bolt head. Had to get a 3 foot cheater bar to break the first 2 loose. Then on the 3rd is where I broke a socket and now I am once again stuck. This had got to be the biggest pain in the ass that I have ever faced.
My only move now is to remove my exhaust manifold, so I attempt to do so. Then get stuck on the last bolt that sits In front of the turbo. Its like something is telling my not to install this thing.


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[Easter Bunny]

Bolt extractor

[Spec]

You're having trouble with the bolts fastened to the cast iron parts?

Are you using a 12 point socket or it rounded it off because the socket is Fucked off?
Try using a 6 point, if you already aren't and tap it on with a hammer or whatever you can hit it with, be sure to squirt it with some penatrating fluid too.

Btw, what pen fluid are you using?

[MSP6]

Originally Posted by Spec be sure to squirt it with some penatrating fluid too. Btw, what pen fluid are you using?

OIC what you did there.

@littleloogy; that sucks man. I'm sure Edge has replacement studs they could rush to you but still, bleh. If I ever abandon the K04 I'm ordering a replacement for every nut, bolt and stud with the turbo. You and @Raider; are getting the peen it would seem.

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by Spec You're having trouble with the bolts fastened to the cast iron parts? Are you using a 12 point socket or it rounded it off because the socket is Fucked off? Try using a 6 point, if you already aren't and tap it on with a hammer or whatever you can hit it with, be sure to squirt it with some penatrating fluid too. Btw, what pen fluid are you using?

PB blaster. Good sir

I was using a 6 point. Low profile piece of shit. I took this kit back after it failed.

And got store credit and this as @Easter Bunny; suggested


I got a good fortune today.

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[Spec]

Ya, those damaged bolt/nut extractors are the shit.