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Lex 12-07-2012 02:09 PM

Product Release: Mazda 3 Port EBCV/EBCS
 




This is a 3 port boost control valve that is plug and play with the OEM harness and comes with some nice as well as some unique features compared to what's already out there:

To name a few:

- It plugs into the OEM harness. No splicing of wires, not CELs
- It allows you to control boost in both 3 port and 2 port modes.
- Allows for faster spool, better response, and improved boost control when tuned.
- Allows boost control on all turbochargers including bigger turbos and OEM.
- Fully compatible with COBB AP, VersaTuner.
- Attaches cleanly to the engine bay in seconds without drilling, cutting, messy brackets.
- Includes reusable hose clamps that can be removed and installed without tools.

- The wiring harness is 18" long and braided for durability and mounting versatility.
- 1/4" diameter barbs that are automotive grade match those on most turbochargers.
- Bracket free, solid mounting solution. No more drilling holes in the engine bay!
- Discounted price if purchased along with our tuning packages



This is designed with ease of installation in mind. I have created very clear instructions and diagrams on how to install this valve in either 3 port (interrupt) or 2 port (bleed) mode. the diagrams are below.

Any questions - you know how to get a hold of me!


breakfstincluded 12-07-2012 02:22 PM

puh puh please for group buy (:

I'll have my bnib COBB EBCS up for sale soon I think now (:

silvapain 12-07-2012 02:27 PM

Do you have a good picture of the pneumatic diagram on the solenoid @Lex;? I'm guessing you don't really need to cap port 3 in bleed mode, just like it's not needed with the MAC solenoids sold under the COBB and GrimmSpeed brand names. Not that it hurts to block it off anyways.

Etipp98 12-07-2012 02:28 PM

Those black boost tube clips are the shit! They work Great!

Lex 12-07-2012 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvapain (Post 1779572)
Do you have a good picture of the pneumatic diagram on the solenoid @Lex;? I'm guessing you don't really need to cap port 3 in bleed mode, just like it's not needed with the MAC solenoids sold under the COBB and GrimmSpeed brand names. Not that it hurts to block it off anyways.

You actually do need to cap port 3 in this one as well as COBB and the GS solenoids.

When not actuated P2 and P3 are connected. P1 is blocked.
When actuated P1 and P2 are connected. P3 is blocked.

If you leave P3 uncapped you will be drawing in unmetered air via the TIP.

bstover17 12-07-2012 02:34 PM

I like your whale penis drawing
Might have to order one of these. I wonder how much $85.00CAD is in 'Merican money.

rfinkle2 12-07-2012 02:34 PM

Stratified busting out the high quality electronics.

If I didn't have my bcs already, I'd be all over this.

BlueStreak 12-07-2012 02:36 PM

Those are the best vaccum line connectors I've ever seen on an EBCS. Definitely assuring that the lines won't pop off.

Beauty.

silvapain 12-07-2012 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex (Post 1779577)
You actually do need to cap port 3 in this one as well as COBB and the GS solenoids.

When not actuated P2 and P3 are connected. P1 is blocked.
When actuated P1 and P2 are connected. P3 is blocked.

If you leave P3 uncapped you will be drawing in unmetered air via the TIP.

I have never capped port 3 on my GS EBCS and I have no leaks.

I posted this in Dustin's EBCS + MBC thread:

The MAC three-port solenoid that is used in the COBB and GS EBCS has check valves, and couldn't care less about the boost source being under vacuum.

Solenoids have pneumatic symbols on them that outline how the valve functions. For example, the MAC solenoid diagram is shown here:

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...d3/MACEBCS.jpg

If you look up how to read the diagram, you'll see something like this:

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...lvesymbols.jpg

So, you can see that the MAC 3-port solenoid is NOT actuated, airflow is allowed from port 2 to port 3 (in that direction ONLY), and port 1 is blocked. When the solenoid is actuated, airflow is allowed from port 1 to port 2 ONLY, and port 3 is blocked.

This means that if you run the EBCS in 2-port mode, with port 1 going to boost source and port 2 going to inlet (bleed), if the boost source is under more vacuum than the inlet there will be no airflow.

P.S. also, you will notice that in 2-port mode you don't need to block port 3, as the inlet will always be under vacuum with respect to ambient pressure when the engine is running, so there will never be airflow into the intake when the solenoid isn't energized. If port 3 isn't capped, though, it will show up as a 'leak' when doing a boost test.

daafisch 12-07-2012 02:38 PM

If only these were allowed in my autox and time trial class....

manila 12-07-2012 02:45 PM

@Lex; I noticed in the engine bay pic that the nipples seem to be brass and in the second pic they are black. Can you confirm if these are plastic like the OEM or are they metal like the COBB's/Grimmspeed.

Lex 12-07-2012 02:45 PM

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@silvapain; here's the diagram for the valve. I as you, thought the same. However I can tell you that the cap is needed on this one. I literally blew and sucked through them to verify. I have not done the same on the MAC solenoids however.

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1354916610

Lex 12-07-2012 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by manilaMS12 (Post 1779616)
@Lex; I noticed in the engine bay pic that the nipples seem to be brass and in the second pic they are black. Can you confirm if these are plastic like the OEM or are they metal like the COBB's/Grimmspeed.

They are black nylon to be exact which is excellent in this environment. Metal in this case adds weight is harder to seal. That picture is one of the prototype units.

manila 12-07-2012 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lex (Post 1779623)
They are black nylon to be exact which is excellent in this environment. Metal in this case adds weight is harder to seal. That picture is one of the prototype units.

Thank you for clarifying sir. How is the durability on the nylon fittings? Hoping better than the flimsy OEM :biggrin:

Lex 12-07-2012 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manilaMS12 (Post 1779631)
Thank you for clarifying sir. How is the durability on the nylon fittings? Hoping better than the flimsy OEM :biggrin:

Yes much more so. The OEM nipples are a hard plastic that easily snaps. Black nylon is quite flexible so they don't snap or crack like the OEM when they are tugged on.

Vader 12-07-2012 05:48 PM

Finally!

Ordered :bigok:

breakfstincluded 12-10-2012 10:43 AM

hum I didn't see the discount for buying this with tuning for a MS3

Also there's extra cost to tune with an EBCS right?

Dano 12-10-2012 11:11 AM

I want those clamps!

Lex 12-10-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by breakfstincluded (Post 1783204)
hum I didn't see the discount for buying this with tuning for a MS3

Also there's extra cost to tune with an EBCS right?

Still working on bundling these together with the tunes on the store - it's not playing nice. If you want these with a tune just PM me and I will send an invoice that includes the discount until I update the store.

3 Port setups do a have a $25 tuning fee IF they are in 3 port mode. This extends tuning by a week as well so overall it's not a bad deal.

Dmurray06 12-10-2012 12:26 PM

Little late to the party...but hell yeah!

Lex 12-10-2012 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmurray06 (Post 1783367)
Little late to the party...but hell yeah!

Never too late to join this party :)

Dmurray06 12-10-2012 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex (Post 1783385)
Never too late to join this party :)

Ill join in once I get off work. Haha

TRSpeed 12-10-2012 01:12 PM

Badass!

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BigRedSpecial 12-10-2012 05:44 PM

DAMNIT! I ordered a Grimmspeed last week!

Dmurray06 12-10-2012 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedSpecial (Post 1784024)
DAMNIT! I ordered a Grimmspeed last week!

I have a BINB Grimmspeed in my basement. Just bought Stratifieds version. I am a bit of a fan boy. It's all about the support you gain when buying a product, and @Lex; has top drawer support for his products.

And as for the Grimmspeed, that's what the for sale sections for.

BigRedSpecial 12-10-2012 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmurray06 (Post 1784237)
I have a BINB Grimmspeed in my basement. Just bought Stratifieds version. I am a bit of a fan boy. It's all about the support you gain when buying a product, and @Lex; has top drawer support for his products.

And as for the Grimmspeed, that's what the for sale sections for.

Logic. You haz it.

Lex 12-14-2012 05:32 PM

Thanks everyone - just 3 left of this first batch. Already got the wheels in motion for the next batch but it will be a couple of weeks. So if you're in need of an EBCV this is a good time to jump in.

stuntz89 01-10-2013 11:21 PM

loll with my recent problem im lucky i found this thread... that next batch ready yet??

Lex 01-11-2013 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuntz89 (Post 1832763)
loll with my recent problem im lucky i found this thread... that next batch ready yet??

Batch is ready to ship sir!

stuntz89 01-11-2013 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex (Post 1833613)
Batch is ready to ship sir!

As soon as I get paid.... That's gonna be mine:werd:

Code Monkey 01-16-2013 07:41 AM

Ordered!

Rich990 01-23-2013 12:42 AM

Ordered! Thanks Lex

Lex 01-23-2013 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich990 (Post 1853335)
Ordered! Thanks Lex

Thank you! Will be going out today.

paveltol 01-26-2013 07:43 AM

Except for the clips what is the actual difference between the offered solenoid and GS or Cobb products?
Do all these work well?

Lex 01-27-2013 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paveltol (Post 1859320)
Except for the clips what is the actual difference between the offered solenoid and GS or Cobb products?
Do all these work well?

Aside from the clips, mounting solution, barbs, and offering a threaded plug for 2 port operation here are some other differences:

- Braided loom for protection and appearance
- The valve is not a MAC valve that those other guys use. It actually offers a more linear response with better resolution especially past 70%wgdc in 3 port where other valves make boost control erratic.

No CELs and it plugs right in just like the other valves.

PreyStayShun 03-16-2013 04:22 PM

I know that this thread is a bit older, and don't mean to bump it for no reason. But I forgot to share my love and respect for Lex.

Everything arrived, install was as easy as expected...instructions were perfect, etc.

Thank you again sir!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-O...316_151139.jpg

Dmurray06 03-16-2013 04:29 PM

Question, if I hook it up in 2 port mode. What is this "restrictor"?

Lex 03-16-2013 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PreyStayShun (Post 1952063)
I know that this thread is a bit older, and don't mean to bump it for no reason. But I forgot to share my love and respect for Lex.

Everything arrived, install was as easy as expected...instructions were perfect, etc.

Thank you again sir!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-O...316_151139.jpg

Thank you sir your review is very much appreciated and I am glad it's working well for you.






Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmurray06 (Post 1952067)
Question, if I hook it up in 2 port mode. What is this "restrictor"?

The restrictor is either the oem pill or the adjustable boost dial.

sidekick 03-16-2013 11:15 PM

Now THAT is quality... It looks awesome @Lex;

Lex 03-27-2013 04:18 PM

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Although a little bit more challenging than using a boost dial, a full LOAD based tune with tapered boost curve can be done using the 3Port EBCV alone. Here's the WGDC and boost curve of a 2-3-4 pull of a BNR S3 we are tuning purely load tuned with a 3 port (interrupt) setup. Note that not all cars respond the same and boost setups that tend to oscillate are much better off being tuned using the Boost Dial.



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