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Default Stratified OTS Maps for JBR WP won't open in ATR

Hopefully you can help @Lex;
I should be getting my JBR 3" WP tomorrow and I went and downloaded the stage 1 map for the intake. My problem is that it won't open in ATR because I was going to set LC and FFS for that map. Here is the screen I'm getting everytime i try to load the map.

Do I have to flash the map to my car when I get the intake on then go back and change LC and FSS or what?

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Stratified maps are locked.
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the maps are locked, however if you go to cobb's website you can add LC and FFS to anymap locked or not through a link they provide

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I'm pretty sure that the Stratified maps are for the PowerPath intakes, not the 3" WP. You might want to double check that. It's my understanding that the MAF calibration would be different for the different intakes.
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These are all correct statements:

- The S-OTS maps are locked down.
- The maps are meant for the powerpath intake and not the WP or any 3" or larger intake. The 3" intake will not work with these and the car will run lean.
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Originally Posted by Lex View Post
These are all correct statements:

- The S-OTS maps are locked down.
- The maps are meant for the powerpath intake and not the WP or any 3" or larger intake. The 3" intake will not work with these and the car will run lean.
Would a MAF CAL set it right or is there another way I would have to go. Is there any OTS map for this intake (if i remember right there isn't).
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Originally Posted by rymanmazda View Post
Would a MAF CAL set it right or is there another way I would have to go. Is there any OTS map for this intake (if i remember right there isn't).
There isn't and for good reason. Big intakes generally require custom tunes to get the most from them. Also cars are generally further from stock/OTS map territory when they have bigger intakes.
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@Lex; has some good MAF Cal numbers to start you off with so you can modify the COBB OTS map for the new intake. Just search for his post about big intake maf cal.
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Originally Posted by SparkySparks View Post
@Lex; has some good MAF Cal numbers to start you off with so you can modify the COBB OTS map for the new intake. Just search for his post about big intake maf cal.
Yes you can use those MAF cal numbers. However be aware that you are likely to overboost with the COBB OTS maps and an opened up intake/exhaust system.
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Agreed, I was meaning as a starting point for the maf cal only. I should have also stated you would need to adjust your tune as you start to open things up and adding mods. Or just get an E-tune and start smiling sooner if you find self tuning to much.
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Ok thanks for all the help
Most likely ill have about a thousand dollars freed up in about a month so ill get a couple more mods then get a e-tune.
I found the maf calibrations for the intake. I'm a noob at tuning so how would I apply those numbers? And what tune should I apply these to.
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Ok thanks for all the help
Most likely ill have about a thousand dollars freed up in about a month so ill get a couple more mods then get a e-tune.
I found the maf calibrations for the intake. I'm a noob at tuning so how would I apply those numbers? And what tune should I apply these to.
I'm getting my wallet to donate right now btw.
The How To is right in the opening post dude.

MAF calibrations for bigger intakes
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The How To is right in the opening post dude.

MAF calibrations for bigger intakes
I was on tapatalk and I didn't see it. opps.
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Ok so I know how to do a MAF CAL and I read lex's article and I understand how to apply that. The main question I have now is what map do I apply these to? Do I grab one of cobb's ots maps and input the variables for the jbr 3" intake or do I just input it on my current tune?
I'm just trying to find a good temporary solution for normal driving until I get my DP and AT internals.
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Ok so I know how to do a MAF CAL and I read lex's article and I understand how to apply that. The main question I have now is what map do I apply these to? Do I grab one of cobb's ots maps and input the variables for the jbr 3" intake or do I just input it on my current tune?
I'm just trying to find a good temporary solution for normal driving until I get my DP and AT internals.
If your current tune drives well then apply them to that and watch for any hpfp pressure drops at WOT in the low RPMs (spool) and during fast shifting.
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If your current tune drives well then apply them to that and watch for any hpfp pressure drops at WOT in the low RPMs (spool) and during fast shifting.
So far I'm at 40 miles on the intake and everything is looking good! Just curious, i will be getting AT internals and ATP turbo DP soon, so how much hp should I expect after I get a professional tune by you? I didn't want to start a whole thread to ask this.
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