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Official Suspension Bars and Braces Thread 66 Attachment(s) Suspension bars and braces are speciality items designed for a specific purpose, such as strengthening weak end-links, reducing body roll, correcting the additional negative camber generated when a vehicle is lowered, reducing chassis flex, removing the preload on your sway bar, eliminating speed robbing under-steer, eliminating torque steer, wheel hop and steering slop, etc. More than half of MSF members have upgraded their suspensions from the following list with nearly half of these choosing the rear sway bar with JBR being the chosen rear sway bar manufacturer nearly three out of four times. The ones following are in decreasing order. I think Front Strut and Tower Bars belong together. If you disagree or think that others should be grouped together or moved to another group, please say so @Nliiitend1; ). Some products no longer seem to be available. If you disagree and do have a valid link (image, price, availability), please provide this. How it works: How sway bar work, How Stuff Works, How do stabilizer bars work | Ultra Racing Non-Technical Info: Non-Technical Info | Ultra Racing Suspension Bars and Braces Rear Sway Bars Rear Camber Front Strut / Tower Bars End-links Front Sway Bars Mid-Chassis Braces Front Traction Bars 4-Point Braces Rear Strut Bars Front Adjustable Camber Skid Plates Other Bars & Braces ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Rear Sway Bars A Rear Sway Bar significantly reduces the vehicles tendency to push the front end during hard cornering, drastically reduces body roll and greatly increases traction. JBR (James Barone Racing) Tru-Torsion (125 and 250 Competition) Rear Sway Bar Adjustable http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1426373890 1.25"OD x .120 wall 4130 Chromoly tubing with thick solid steel arms, TIG welded inside and out then the ends are capped, powder coated for ultimate corrosion resistance, 3-way adjustability allows you to fine tune the handling for the street and the track, includes Polyurethane Mounting Bushings & Brackets with Grease Fittings, Installation Grease, Lifetime Warranty Stock Sway Bar setting for MS3 is 479 lbs/in Stiff settings: 593 lbs/in, 718 lbs/in and 901 lbs/in Available from: JBR Tru-Torsion (125 and 250 Competition) Rear Sway Bar Adjustable MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) CorkSport Rear Adjustable Swaybar http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1426373890 Remove the tendency to overpower the front tires under hard cornering and minimize traction robbing body lean, compressing inside suspension effectively increases the spring rate on side of the suspension which is compressed most and its adjustability allows you to fine tune the handling, machined billet 6061-T6 aluminium anodized black finish brackets ($79.99 value) with grease fittings for easy servicing with 90a polyurethane, two end-link attachment points to change the stiffness between 114% stiffer or 180% stiffer than stock, single piece of 28.5mm 4130 steel CNC bent avoids weld weak points, two-year limited warranty Available from: CorkSport Rear Adjustable Swaybar MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Progress Rear Sway Bar http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1426483010 Dramatically improves handling by minimising the traction-robbing body "lean" that rolls part of the outside tires off the pavement through larger diameter (stiffer) alloy steel bars and polyurethane bushings reducing the body lean for flatter tyre contact patches resulting in more grip and added driver control for faster cornering speeds and increased driver confidence, Polyurethane bushings produce crisp response on turn-in, cold-formed in-house using our custom-built precision bending equipment, laser-cut and CNC bar ends are MIG welded. Features: Tubular 32mm, adjustment Range: 2 hole, powder-coated metallic grey, one year limited warranty. Note: end-links are not Included (79%) Available from: Progress Rear Sway Bar MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Whiteline Rear Sway Bar Adjustable MS6 http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1426483053 MS3 http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1426373890 This two hole sway bar improves cornering by allowing trimming of over-steer / understeer to improve handling balance through varying the sway bars ability to resist weight transfer via increasing or decreasing the effective arm length of the sway bars mounting position. If desired you can even set one side at the "hardest" position, thus increasing the force required to make the body roll, and set the other side at the "softest" position to achieve your desired effects. In general, a bigger front sway bar will give the car more understeer where a bigger rear bar will give the car more over-steer, greaseless Polyurethane bushings, three-year warranty MS6 Installation: see http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...6/#post2834115 MS6 Whiteline Sway Bar Rear 24mm Adjustable MS6 MS3 Whiteline Rear Sway Bar 27mm Adjustable MS3 MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Hotchkis Rear Sport Sway Bar http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1426373890 Adjustable, for balanced handling, 1-1/4 in. (32mm) tubular (hollow) with two settings to make it 95% stiffer than stock with a rate of 1625 lbs/in or 140% stiffer with a rate of 2030 lbs/in to eliminate unwanted body roll. Easy to lubricate polyurethane bushings and heavy duty brackets with zerk fittings included, features a 2 position adjustable rear bar, dramatically improves cornering potential due to increased front / rear roll stiffness, speed robbing understeer is eliminated allowing power to be applied earlier during corner exit, durable powder coat finish, all hardware and bushings included Available from: Hotchkis Rear Sport Sway Bar MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) H&R Sport Sway Bar http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru..._rear_sway.jpg Info: H&R Sway Bars | Products || H&R Special Springs, LP Crafted from a special (hf) 50CrV4 steel alloy—the highest tensile strength available, decreasing the feedback response time, increases roll stiffness over stock while maintaining ride comfort, improves vehicle’s lateral stability and cornering grip, while reducing body roll, cold-formed and heat-treated, with forged seamless bar ends, shot-peened to increase durability and check for dimensional correctness, smooth, machined-like forged ends that allows for adjustability in stiffness, bushings feature a special urethane/Teflon composite that prevents squeaks and eliminates the need for lubrication, made in Germany Available from: H&R Rear Sway Bar MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) 24 mm adjustable or 26 mm non-adjustable, MS3 Gen2 (Not found) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Rear Camber These correct the additional negative camber generated when a vehicle is lowered and thus, wears out the tyres after just 10k miles, SPC (Speciality Products Company) Camber Adjustable Rear Kit http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...amber_arms.jpg Info: Specialty Products Company | SPC Alignment | The Automotive Alignment Leaders These high strength forged rear arms are perfect for tuners or installers that need extended camber ranges on these popular platforms. Complete with OE style bushings installed for a factory type ride. (67420 & 67440) MS6 up to ± 2.0° (67425), MS3 Rear Camber -1.5° to +5.0° Available from: SPC Camber Adjustable Rear Kit MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) price for one, need two JBR Rear Camber Arms http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...amber_arms.jpg These correct camber and can add up to +-4 degrees of camber for on the street or the track, constructed from high strength extruded steel tubing, reinforced with thick steel gussets to prevent any unwanted flex or stress, durable urethane bushings, control and road feel is increased with no need to worry about any added noise.includes:1 Set (pair) of Rear Adjustable Camber Arms and Lifetime Warranty Available from: JBR Rear Camber Arms MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) price for pair CorkSport Adjustable Rear Camber Arms http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ber_arms_3.jpg Fine tune the camber setting to balance uneven tire wear and cornering performance, offers +/- 5 degrees of on-car adjustability along with cross camber adjustment, for on and off the track, spherical bearings replace the OEM soft rubber bushings for more control and added road feel, reinforced high strength extruded bent steel tubing: Stronger, less brittle and more durable than aluminium, two-year warranty Available from: MS6 CorkSport Adjustable Rear Camber Arms MS6 MS3 CorkSport Adjustable Rear Camber Arms MS3 MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) price for pair ACDelco (Amazon) Professional Rear Lower Camber Arm http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ear_camber.jpg Adjustable, Up to Minus 1-1/2 Degree(s) to Plus 5 Degree(s) Available from: MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Eibach Rear Camber Kit http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...amber_arms.jpg These give you +5.0 and -1.5 degrees of adjustment allowing you to get your alignment back into spec. Available from: Eibach Rear Camber Kit MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Front Strut / Tower Bars With the majority of the strut tower being incorporated into the firewall, the argument is raised about whether this bar is needed. If purchased, ensure that it will clear the OEM (especially the Gen1) TMIC or any chosen aftermarket TMIC. Tanabe Sustec Strut Tower Bar http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...trut_tower.jpg If the chassis is bending, the suspension system is not being used to its full potential. This bar helps reduce chassis flex, allowing the dampers, springs, and stabilizers to show their true ability. The strut tower bar is arguably one of the least expensive upgrades that can provide a very high degree of benefit that is felt immediately after installing. Often one of the first modifications performed on a vehicle, the strut tower brace improves handling and stability of a vehicle. This one has been very popular due to its low price and high functionality. By connecting the strut towers, and creating a balance, the shocks are prevented from independently moving and causing small changes in suspension geometry. Available from: Tanabe Sustec Strut Tower Bar MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) CorkSport Front Tower Bar MS6 http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...nt_strut_6.jpg MS3 Gen2 http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...wer_3_gen2.jpg Strengthens thus reducing flex, making the chassis more rigid, increases cornering ability, extruded aircraft grade anodised black 6061 aluminium, CNC bent cross member with laser cut mounting plates, utilises factory mounting points (six bolts), extruded chambered bar design, light weight yet strong design, one piece design maximises stiffness and ensures easy installation, two-year limited warranty Available from: MS6 CorkSport Front Tower Bar MS6 MS3 CorkSport Front Tower Bar MS3 MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Performance Autowerksracing Strut Tower Brace http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ut_tower_3.jpg Durable powder coated finish with a lifetime warranty, mild steel tubing, laser cut 1/4" thick end plates, simple bolt on installation Available from: Performance Autowerksracing Strut Tower Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Red, Black or Orange Ultra Racing Front Strut / Tower Bar http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...er_strut_3.jpg Available from: Ultra Racing Front Strut / Tower Bar MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ End-links These eliminate binding and remove the preload on your sway bar. Note: New front end-link length = [OEM length] + [change in ride height] - [change in strut end-link mount] The total length of the front end-links should not exceed 1.25" over OEM. Otherwise you can risk contact with the LCA. Some CO's like H&R and BC do not factor in the initial drop. Federal-Mogul, MOOG Replacement Front End Links Front http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru..._end_links.jpg Rear http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru..._end_links.jpg Info: Federal-Mogul These replacement end links are a ball and socket design with rubber dust caps and grease fitting to ensure a quiet, long lasting solution that are much less expensive than the aftermarket adjustable rod end links, which are loud and often do not have grease fittings or dust boots to keep debris out, includes one PAIR (two) MOOG end links, all necessary mounting hardware and manufactures warranty Available from: Front MOOG Replacement Front End Links Rear MOOG Replacement Rear End Links MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) for front pair, for rear pair CorkSport Front Adjustable Sway Bar End Links http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...nd-links_3.jpg Eliminate binding and remove the preload on your sway bar, made to fit OEM and aftermarket sway bars, have +/-6mm of adjustability, uses a 5/8” hex stock 2011 T-3 anodised aluminium: For a long lasting finish and durability that will reduce end link fatigue, sealed ball joint end M10x1.5 ball joints for low friction, longevity and added durability, does not require enlarging the shock mounting flange holes, two-year warranty Available from: CorkSport Front Adjustable Sway Bar End Links MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) per pair AWR (Anthony Woodford Racing) Sway Bar Links MS6 http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...nd_links_6.jpg MS3 http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...nd_links_3.jpg Take advantage of that front bar by passing the loads through the links as they should have done from the factory. These end links work well with factory or factory style sway bars, but are not to be used with heavy duty thick mounting profile sway bars. Nickel finish or powder coated black. 6inch centre to centre length. now with metric rod ends and metric hardware to install with factory and most aftermarket rear sway bars. Limited lifetime warranty Available from: MS6 AWR Sway Bar Links MS6 MS3 AWR Sway Bar Links MS3 MS6 (Yes), MS3 (Yes), Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Front only or Front & Rear Steeda Sway Bar Adjustable End Links Front http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1426590938 Rear http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1426661584 Same as Ford Fusion, confirm if zerk fittings are included when ordering Front Info: Steeda Ford Fusion Adjustable Front Endlinks (06-12) - Free Shipping! Double “on the car” adjustable design allows to both retain proper sway-bar geometry on lowered cars and adjust sway-bar preload for fine tuning, body of aerospace grade aluminium centre adjusters, therefore corrosion resistant, case hardened ball studs with increased swing area compared with spherical rod ends, includes locking hardware for installation, lifetime warranty Rear Info: Steeda Ford Fusion Adjustable Rear Endlinks (06-12) 555-1063 - Free Shipping! Quiet, polyurethane lower bushing and upper ball joint provides improved load transfer without being harsh like rod-ended designs, the threaded shank allows you to adjust the length to better balance your car Available from: Front MS6 Steeda Sway Bar Adjustable End Links Front MS6 Rear MS6 Steeda Sway Bar Adjustable End Links Rear MS6 MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) Side-by-Side Comparison http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1426745744 Steeda is on the left and Racing Beat is on the right Racing Beat Rear Sway Bar End Links http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1426595406 Non-adjustable, stock replacement, improved ball joint design structure for 12x increase in "pull out" strength over OEM to address the increased demands of a larger rear sway bar, self-lubricating sealed bearing Available from: Sway Bar Endlinks for 03-08 Mazda 6 Rear - Racing Beat MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) OTC (Out There Customs) Polyurethane Swaybar Bushes http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...bar_bushes.jpg Available from: OTC Polyurethane Swaybar Bushes MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) South Africa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Front Sway Bars Improves handling by eliminating speed robbing under-steer, reduces body roll during cornering, sheds chassis weight, maintain ride height and comfort, all without compromising ride quality and increases your car's sensitivity to steering inputs. CorkSport Front Swaybar Gen1 http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ont_sway_3.jpg Gen2 http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1426584738 Improve handling and maintain ride height and comfort, while minimizing body roll during cornering, not adjustable by design. If you prefer more under or over steer, simply set the rear bar firmer or softer to match your driving style, Gen1 includes machined billet 6061-T6 anodised black aluminium brackets with 90a polyurethane ($79.99 value), single piece of 28.5mm 4130 steel avoids weld weak points Gen2 CNC bent, made from 1 1/8” 4130 steel, 30% stiffer than the stock, includes new mounting bushings compatible with stock and most aftermarket end-links, dramatically improved cornering potential for a distinct track and autocross advantage over stock sway bars Both: blue or black powder coated, two-year limited warranty Available from: CorkSport Front Swaybar MS3 Gen1 CORKSPORT Mazdaspeed 3 Front Swaybar MS3 Gen2 MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Whiteline Front Sway Bar 27mm Adjustable http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ont_sway_3.jpg Easiest way to improve handling balance, reduce body roll and shed chassis weight, all without compromising ride quality, 22mm 2 point adjustable sway bar = more grip = better handling = outright performance, allows its rate to be altered by increasing or reducing the length of the lever arms permitting the roll stiffness to be tuned for different situations without replacing the entire bar. The stiffer the bar, the more force required to move the left and right wheels relative to each other. This increases the amount of force required to make the body roll, greaseless Polyurethane bushings, three-year warranty Available from: Whiteline Front Sway Bar 27mm Adjustable MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Racing Beat Front Sway Bar http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1426483030 Reduces chassis roll during cornering and increases your car's sensitivity to steering inputs, thereby improving maximum cornering power. Select steel alloys and precise heat-treating processes, finished with red powder coating that provides a smooth, glossy protective layer. Diameter of 1.125" (28.5mm) vs stock .83" (21mm) front bar. Additional feature of OEM style "stoppers" to prevent the bar from sliding sideways in the bar bushings during heavy cornering effort, includes replacement urethane bushings, bar clamps, Prothane grease and installation instructions. Available from: Racing Beat Racing Beat Mazda 3 FRONT Sway Bar 2.3L for Mazda3 2004-2009, 2.3L MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) Hotchkis Front Sport Sway Bar http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ont_sway_3.jpg Street autocross and track event ready, massive 32mm (1¼ inch) but lightweight (hollow), 35% stiffer than the stock sway bar with a rate of 560 lbs/in, adjustable to finely tune for balanced handling, Polyurethane bushings and heavy duty bushing brackets with zerk fittings for easy lubrication, dramatically improves cornering potential due to increased front / rear roll stiffness, speed robbing under steer is eliminated allowing power to be applied earlier during corner exit, durable powder coat finish, all hardware and bushings included Available from: Hotchkis Front Sport Sway Bar MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Mid-Chassis Braces These reduce chassis flex and improve response. CorkSport Mid-Chassis Brace http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...-chassis_3.jpg Increases cornering ability, gives more feedback, constructed from black powder coated laser cut ten gauge plate with 1 x ½ inch channel MIG welded reinforcement, adding rigidity and reducing the chassis flex providing sharper handling and improving structural integrity while reducing the weight of the chassis by 20% over the stock brace. The 4 point, direct bolt-on to stock, mounting holes makes this brace an easy to install add-on for your car. Failure analysis tested with Solidworks to ensure long lasting quality, two-year warranty Available from: CorkSport Mid-Chassis Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) TB Performance Mid-Chassis Brace http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...-chassis_3.jpg The brace replaces the factory mid chassis brace which is weak and often rattles against aftermarket exhaust systems. This brace is lighter, stronger and much better looking. Available from: TB Performance Mid-Chassis Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) GTSPEC Mid-Chassis Brace http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ace_3_gen1.jpg Aluminium Available from: GTSPEC Mid-Chassis Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Performance Autowerksracing Chassis Brace http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...is_brace_3.jpg Greatly reduces chassis flex and improves response Available from: Performance Autowerksracing Chassis Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) in Satin Black, Gloss Red or “Werks” Orange ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Front Traction Bars These eliminate torque steer, wheel hop and steering slop. TB Performance Lower Arm Brace V2.4 http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...traction_3.jpg This bar connects the A arms together to prevent and eliminate torque steer, wheel hop and steering slop. Available from: TB Performance Lower Arm Brace V2.4 MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) GTSPEC Front Lower Tie Brace http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ace_3_gen1.jpg Available from: GTSPEC Front Lower Tie Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) AutoExe Front Lower Arm Brace http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ace_3_gen2.jpg The Autoexe Front Lower Brace functions very similarly to a strut bar, in that it helps prevent chassis flex under hard cornering by reinforcing the suspension locating points your Mazda will have a more precise steering feel resulting in better handling and suspension feedback, made from steel and is painted red, includes an aluminium Autoexe nameplate, installation instructions which are in Japanese. Available from: ??? MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Ultra Racing Front Lower Bar http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ront_lower.jpg Info: Ultra Racing Front Lower Bar / Front Member Brace Available from eBay MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 4-Point Braces These provide another way to reduce undesirable chassis flex and increase control during hard cornering and acceleration. GTSPEC 4-point Ladder Brace http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ace_3_gen1.jpg Available from: GTSPEC 4-point ladder brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) GTSPEC Front 4-point Brace http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ace_3_gen1.jpg Available from: GTSPEC Front 4-point Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) CorkSport Underbody 4-Brace Set http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru..._4_brace_3.jpg Reduce undesirable chassis flex and increase control during hard cornering and acceleration, reinforcing the chassis with an underbrace set will reduce twisting of the chassis by linking the frame to the sub-frame thus locking the front sub-frame in place, lightweight and Highly Rigid aluminium double wall I-beam construction increases rigidity without unnecessary weight, reinforced machined brackets tie the load points together for reduced flexing and distortion of the chassis, improving stability and responsiveness, anodized black, designed for fitment with CS or OEM Skid Tray, two-year warranty Available from: CorkSport Underbody 4-Brace Set MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Ultra Racing Front Member Brace http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...mber_brace.jpg Available from eBay Info: Ultra Racing Front Lower Bar / Front Member Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Rear Strut Bars CorkSport Rear Chassis Brace http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru..._chassis_3.jpg Get positive driver feedback under hard cornering and reduce chassis flex, designed to increase the stiffness of the body to limit chassis flex while providing aircraft grade quick release pins to allow the daily driver the ease of rapid removal for the unexpected car load, 1/4“ laser cut steel black powder coated mounting brackets provide a secure and good looking mounting base for the brace, anodized black 1” extruded aluminium, two-year limited warranty Note: Trimming the trunk/hatch carpet is required for installation Available from: CorkSport Rear Chassis Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) CorkSport Rear Brace Bar http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ar_brace_6.jpg Reduce chassis flex by increasing the stiffness of the body while installing directly behind the back seat for zero trunk interference, T6061 High Grade Aluminium for a strong yet light weight piece, TIG welded and polished to a high lustre, two-year limited warranty Available from: CorkSport Rear Brace Bar MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) TB Performance Adjustable Trunk Brace http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...dj_trunk_3.jpg This brace connects the corners of your hatch together to make a much more stable platform in the rear. This brace will also give you a fresh new look. Available from: TB Performance Adjustable Trunk Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Ultra Racing Rear Upper Strut Bar / Rear Tower Bar http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...rear_strut.jpg Info: Mazda 3 MPS MZR 2.3T (2010) Aftermarket Performance Parts / Accessories / Spare Part - Ultra Racing Product Catalog Available from: Ultra Racing 1 PC Solid Rear Rigid Strut Tower Bar Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Ultra Racing Rear Lower Strut Bar http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ower_strut.jpg Info: Ultra Racing Rear Lower Strut Bar Available from eBay ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Front Adjustable Camber This suspension mod helps balance your tires and grip as you perfect your cornering performance on the track. CorkSport Upper Control Arms http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...rol_arms_6.jpg Adjust camber arms from -0.2 degrees to -2.0 degrees, Manufactured from seamless steel tubing and powder-coated black, spherical bearings replace the soft OEM rubber bushings, two-year limited warranty, full color installation instructions Available from: CorkSport Upper Control Arms MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Skid Plates CorkSport Skid Tray MS6 http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1426764165 MS3 Gen1 http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1426661001 Get solid protection against rocks, road debris and prevent damage to key components of your undercarriage, made from .130 " precision machined aluminium adds minimal weight, one-piece precision bent skid plate angled for a tight fit and structural rigidity and is CAD designed to mount on the sub frame with extra attachment points so it won’t snag or hang up on objects under your vehicle. comparable cost replacement to OEM parts, smoother airflow under the front side of the car, is slightly higher profile, which is ideal for lowered vehicles. Get a slammed look without rubbing off your new under tray, easy to access oil filter: Includes a large opening for oil to drain from the drain plug and has a removable cover for accessing the oil filter, two-year limited warranty Available from: MS6 CorkSport Skid Tray MS6 MS3 Gen1 CorkSport Skid Tray MS3 Gen1 MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Other Bars & Braces Whiteline Rear Bump Steer Correction Kit http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...mp_steer_3.jpg Designed to change bump steer characteristics depending on driving conditions. For racing it is beneficial to reduce the amount of bump steer to give a more positive feel - sharper handling - reduced rear passive steer & reduce understeer, reduces factory toe out from 6mm to 1mm (at 60mm bump) Available from: Whiteline Rear Bump Steer Correction Kit MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) CorkSport Lower Front Brace / Front Lower Arm Bar Available from: No longer available MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) Whiteline Anti-Lift Front Caster Kit http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...caster_kit.jpg Designed to add 0.5 deg static positive caster to both front wheels while changing the nature of front anti-dive & lift. The low compliance bush also maintain higher dynamic positive castor. By changing the front control arm geometry - the new alloy mounts coupled with the new low compliance polyurethane bushes change front suspension attitude. This leads to superior traction under power including cornering & dramatically reducing understeer & front wheel spin. The additional castor coupled with the new firmer bushes supplied serve to dramatically sharpen initial turn-in response then forcing more consistent alignment angles through the corner due to the reduced bush compliance. Available from: Whiteline Anti-Lift Front Caster Kit MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Not fit) CorkSport Adjustable Rear Toe Arms http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...toe_arms_3.jpg Fine tune your toe setting needed to balance uneven tire wear and cornering performance, offers +/- 5 degrees of on-car wrench adjustability, spherical bearings replace the soft OEM rubber bushings, for more control and added road feel, made from reinforced high strength extruded steel tubing which is stronger, less brittle and more durable than aluminium, two-year warranty Available from: CorkSport Adjustable Rear Toe Arms MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) for pair Megan Racing Rear Toe Adjustable Control Arm http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ontrol_arm.jpg Car alignment is absolutely crucial when modifying your car. Alignment can affect every aspect of your driving experience from straight line stability, under steer, over steer, acceleration, braking and tyre wear. Although stock components allow slight alignments from the stock suspension settings, they often are not able to properly align the car after the suspension has been modified. From the factory, most cars are set to have under steer and for optimum tyre wear at stock height; under steer is often undesired from a performance standpoint and almost all performance driven applications are lowered; These Toe-Control high-strength steel alloy arms allow for fine-tuned adjustments to the rear toe in / out setting of the vehicle. Toe is crucial for the straight line stability and behaviour of a car and is said to have more of an effect than the front toe. Available from: Megan Racing Rear Toe Adjustable Control Arm MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) GTSPEC Rear V Brace http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ace_3_gen1.jpg Available from: GTSPEC Rear V Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) GTSPEC Link Reinforcement Panel http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...nel_3_gen1.jpg Available from: GTSPEC Link Reinforcement Panel MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) GTSPEC Rear Lower Tie Brace http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ace_3_gen1.jpg Available from: GTSPEC Rear Lower Tie Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) GTSPEC Trunk Cage System http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...tem_3_gen1.jpg Includes a rear upper brace, rear floor brace and two cross linkage braces, floor brace and upper brace can be purchased and installed separately, cross linkage brace requires both floor brace and upper brace in order for it to work Available from: GTSPEC Trunk Cage System MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) GTSPEC Rear Subframe Reinforcement Panel http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...nel_3_gen2.jpg Available from: GTSPEC Rear Subframe Reinforcement Panel MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Ultra Racing Middle Lower Bar / Middle Member Brace No image Info: Ultra Racing Middle Lower Bar / Middle Member Brace Available from eBay Ultra Racing Rear Lower Bar / Rear Member Brace http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru..._lower_bar.jpg Info: Ultra Racing Rear Lower Bar / Rear Member Brace Available from eBay Ultra Racing Rear Lower Bar / Rear Member Brace http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...mber_brace.jpg Info: Ultra Racing Rear Lower Bar / Rear Member Brace Available from eBay Ultra Racing Rear Torsion Bar / Rear Frame Brace http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...frame_bars.jpg Info: Ultra Racing Rear Torsion Bar / Rear Frame Brace Available from eBay Ultra Racing Room Bar / Rear Cross Bar http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...r_room_bar.jpg Info: Ultra Racing Room Bar / Rear Cross Bar Available from eBay |
2015 Prices Rear Sway Bars JBR (James Barone Racing) Tru-Torsion (125 and 250 Competition) Rear Sway Bar Adjustable MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $195 for Red 125 CorkSport Rear Adjustable Swaybar MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $219.99 Progress Rear Sway Bar MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $178 Whiteline Rear Sway Bar 27mm Adjustable MS6 (Yes) $197.91, MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $224.82 Hotchkis Rear Sport Sway Bar MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $259.95, MS3 Gen2 (Not found) H&R Sport Sway Bar MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) 24 mm adjustable or 26 mm non-adjustable, both $236.55 each, MS3 Gen2 (Not found) Rear Camber SPC (Speciality Products Company) Camber Adjustable Rear Kit MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $82.95 for one (need two) JBR Rear Camber Arms MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $190 pair, black CorkSport Adjustable Rear Camber Arms MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $199.99 per pair ACDelco (Amazon) Professional Rear Lower Camber Arm MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $66.72 Eibach Rear Camber Kit MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $201.83 Front Strut / Tower Bars Tanabe Sustec Strut Tower Bar MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $139 CorkSport Front Tower Bar MS6 (Yes) $157.99, MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $157.99 Performance Autowerksracing Strut Tower Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $150 Red, Black or Orange Ultra Racing Front Strut / Tower Bar MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $158 End-links Federal-Mogul, MOOG Replacement Front End Links MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $85 front pair, $85 rear pair CorkSport Front Adjustable Sway Bar End Links MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $115.99 per pair AWR (Anthony Woodford Racing) Rear Sway Bar Links MS6 (Yes), MS3 (Yes), Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Front only $115, Front & Rear $210 Steeda Sway Bar Adjustable End Links MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) Racing Beat Rear Sway Bar End Links MS6 (Yes) $55, MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) OTC (Out There Customs) Polyurethane Swaybar Bushes MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) South African Rand 550 Front Sway Bars CorkSport Front Swaybar MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $219.99, MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $199.99 Whiteline Front Sway Bar 27mm Adjustable MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $224.82 Racing Beat Front Sway Bar MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $219.45, MS3 Gen2 (Not found) Hotchkis Front Sport Sway Bar MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $264.95, MS3 Gen2 (Not found) Mid-Chassis Braces CorkSport Mid-Chassis Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $137.99 TB Performance Mid Chassis Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $139.95 GTSPEC Mid-Chassis Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $188 Performance Autowerksracing Chassis Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $599.99 in Satin Black, Gloss Red or “Werks” Orange Front Traction Bars TB Performance Lower Arm Brace V2.4 MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $129.95 GTSPEC Front Lower Tie Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $105 AutoExe Front Lower Arm Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $169.99 4-Point Braces GTSPEC 4-point Ladder Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $199 GTSPEC Front 4-point Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $149 CorkSport Underbody 4-Brace Set MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $249.99 Ultra Racing Front Member Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Rear Strut Bars CorkSport Rear Chassis Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $199.99 CorkSport Rear Brace Bar MS6 (Yes) $99.99, MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) TB Performance Adjustable Trunk Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $139.95 Ultra Racing Rear Upper Strut Bar / Rear Tower Bar MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $128 Ultra Racing Rear Lower Strut Bar Front Adjustable Camber CorkSport Upper Control Arms MS6 (Yes) $299.99, MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) Skid Plates CorkSport Skid Tray MS6 (Yes) $249.99, MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) Other Bars & Braces Whiteline Rear Bump Steer MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $40.41 CorkSport Lower Front Brace / Front Lower Arm Bar MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) Whiteline Anti-Lift Front Caster Kit MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Not fit) $179.91 CorkSport Adjustable Rear Toe Arms MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $157.99 for pair Megan Racing Rear Toe Adjustable Control Arm MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $149 GTSPEC Rear V Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $189, MS3 Gen2 (Not found) GTSPEC Link Reinforcement Panel MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $149, MS3 Gen2 (Not found) GTSPEC Rear Lower Tie Brace MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $105 GTSPEC Trunk Cage System MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $425, MS3 Gen2 (Not found) GTSPEC Rear Sub-frame Reinforcement Panel MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $229 Ultra Racing Rear Lower Bar / Rear Member Brace (same name as below) MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Ultra Racing Rear Lower Bar / Rear Member Brace (same name as above) MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Ultra Racing Rear Torsion Bar / Rear Frame Brace Ultra Racing Room Bar / Rear Cross Bar |
Couldn't find the MS6 whiteline rsb? Huh... Nice collection of info. |
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Which one's the best? :drive: |
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It may not give you a competitive edge choosing the most popular option, but it should allow you to compete. |
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I thought you were referring to not aligning the image yet, which must have been like watching paint dry...it was so slow. Correct, I could not find the MS6 Whiteline RSB. If it exists, can you provide the link? |
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2 Attachment(s) I run Steeda adjustable end links both front and rear. Below are pics, prices and current page links to Steeda's website. Individual end link components can be sourced from mcmaster-carr or midwest controls (mwc typically has better prices) allowing you to assemble your own custom end links. I found that these parts will mix & match with the Steeda end links also. For example I ordered a set of rod ends from mwc (DWTM-10, $7.11each) that fit perfectly with the ball joint uppers on the rear end links- allowing more angle than the rubber bushings that the Steeda units come with. It's also worth noting that when using the Whiteline Rear Sway Bar on the Speed6, and the tighter of the two mounting holes, both the sway bar and the lower control arm need to be modified to prevent them hitting each other. The lower corner of the sway bar needs to be removed or it hits the LCA. The LCA itself needs the opening for the end link opened up or the end link will hit. Either/both of these, if not done, will result in both knocking noises as contact is made and will limit the effectiveness of the parts. @phate; has, I think, some pics of the LCA's with the clearenced opening for the end links? I've done the same but didn't get any pics. It's basically just extending the opening towards the front enough to clear the end link when cycling the suspension. Steeda Adj. Front End Links - $124.95 Steeda Ford Fusion Adjustable Front Endlinks (06-12) - Free Shipping! http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1426510744 Steeda Adj Rear End Links - $99.95 Steeda Ford Fusion Adjustable Rear Endlinks (06-12) 555-1063 - Free Shipping! http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1426510744 |
Oh, and fwiw, yes these are fusion parts. This was the era when ford & mazda were sharing platforms, and the fusion was essentially the same suspension as the 6. Also, looking at the pics above it appears the front ball joint ends have been slightly redesigned since I got mine over a year ago. Also note that while they show a zerk fitting in the front ball joints in some other pics on the website, they don't actually come with one. Or they didn't use to, at least mine didn't. I called Steeda directly to ask, and they confirmed that none of the units which were boxed & ready to ship had the zerk fittings. They might now, but if that's important to you then you may want to call & ask before ordering... http://stable-networks.com/ms6r/imag...arEndLinks.png |
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@Inquisitive;, any front bar made for the regular mazda 6 will fit the speed6. There's a few options out there. |
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I recently installed a JBR 1.25 Tru-Torsion RSB, and a JBR 88a Duro RMM. These are my only two "suspension" products. So far, with the 2 items i listed above, the difference in handling as actually quite substantial. I am currently on a Freektune as well. The items from stock to aftermarket are night and day i feel. I have a few on-ramps here in my city that do the whole loop to get on the highway. I'm actually able to take that loop alot hard and faster than stock where i felt there was a clear amount of roll, and felt the rear end would kick out. I no longer feel that. Furthermore, the torque steer is greatly reduced as well as it helped stiffen up the engine movement as well as balancing out the rear end to keep it straight and true. The 2 items working together i believe help plant the vehicle, however, it doesn't necessarily assist in prevent a great amount of wheelspin. The installation of the RSB was incredibly easy. Took me less than 10 minutes with the back end jacked up. There's a total of 6 bolts, 2 u-joints, and the bar itself. The price is also quite nice too. Nothing that breaks the bank in any way, and i do feel it's a very beneficial tool to have installed. I don't have any other brand of RSB to test, but i had a Cobb RMM previously and to be quite honest, the Cobb RMM feels like stock, which is pretty awful. The JBR 88a duro, lots of people say that they can't even hold a conversation in the car because it's so shakey. Since having it in, before it's even gotten more than 100km on it, the car has little vibration. You can absolutely hold a conversation, but it's in no way uncomfortable in any sense of the word. If you had the RMM installed, you'd never even complain. However, you can definitely feel the mount strengthens the hold on the engine. |
Nice work. Maybe we can remove the attachment photos that show up a second time? |
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1 Attachment(s) @Inquisitive; The pic you're using currently for the Steeda rear Adj. End Link is the one I posted to compare the Steeda adjustable with the RacingBeat unit. Probably should switch that for the actual Steeda product image to avoid confusion. Speaking of, here's the data for the RacingBeat units: Speed6 RacingBeat RSB End Links Non-Adjustable / Stock Replacement Great part for the price $55 for pair Sway Bar Endlinks for 03-08 Mazda 6 Rear - Racing Beat http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1426595406 |
Thread starter asked me to put up some answers to questions he asked. Hope it helps. 1- Live up to the hype (corrected wheel hop, torque steer, under-steer); The parts I have are only a corksport rear sway bar and rear chassis brace. Wheel hop is not going to go away, just have to deal with it, I think torque steer can be reduced by using heavier motor mounts all around, the rear mount just helps deal with engine lash from the torque our cars put down. When I corner hard in my car now with the bar and the brace in the rear the back end of the car seems to come around a little more willingly. I even seem to get some lift off oversteer which is pretty cool. 2- Have any negative comments (poor quality); Fortunately no, no complaints about quality, the parts have been rock solid. 3- Installation (time required, pain); The rear chassis brace required me to cut into the rear paneling, and cuts down on cargo room but it can be removed quite easily. The rear sway bar was easy to put in, but i recommend getting a buddy to help, the bar is very heavy if your holding it up alone for extended periods of time. 4- Offer good value (too expensive); and I would say yes, i am going to get a good set of tires on the car next to help and see what the results will be, i kind of trashed mine this past summer 5- Would you rather have chosen an alternative? No, I am happy with my purchase |
1 live up to the hype (corrected wheel hop, torque steer, under-steer); Right now I have a mix of JBR/Tanabe braces/bars on my car. I would have to say everything has done exactly what it promises. JBR products have always been awesome hence why I went with the RSB. As for my Tanabe products I heard good things about them but not a lot of Speed owners used them so I gave them a try. 2 have any negative comments (poor quality); Both companies make great products. 100% satisfied customer here. 3 installation (time required, pain); All the Tanabe bars/braces took less than 15 mins to install. JBR RSB took a little longer but it was because I has to fix a problem with the screws. Took about 30 mins for RSB. 4 offer good value (too expensive); All the parts are pretty much you get what you pay for. Now I found the Tanabe parts were a little cheaper than others but they are still great. JBR is JBR; enough said. 5 would you rather have chosen an alternative? Not really I mean JBR has done great things for the Mazda community and they make high quality product. As for Tanabe they have been around the import tuner scene for a really long time so the have history/reputation to back them. Overall i think these are 2 great companies to buy from with 0 buyers remorse. :headbang: |
1 live up to the hype (corrected wheel hop, torque steer, under-steer); I had significant wheelhop on the stock suspension, but that might have been due to my broken stock PMM...... It got significantly better once I replaced it with the JBR 70. I have the GB Ground Control Coilover conversion kit. It's a really great piece. The springs are very stiff though (525/600). Once I swapped to slightly softer springs I got the best of both worlds. Wheelhop is completely gone. Swaybars have been a pain. My JBR bar likes to knock against the bottom of the car because it has been swapped and greased so many times. Some of that is due to my own ignorance, but I'm not sold on the bar design. If I were to do it all over again, I'd get the less stiff (and less bulky) CS bar. 2 have any negative comments (poor quality) Good quality, winter just sucks. Can't blame that on JBR. 3 installation (time required, pain); The coilover install wasn't terrible. Shaving the paint is expected. I wish the rears were adjustable while they were on the car though. 4 offer good value (too expensive); The GC Coilovers are definitely worth the price. Just make sure you pick the DD setup as the Aggressive coils are incredibly stiff. 5 would you rather have chosen an alternative? I probably would have selected a smooth bar rather than the bulky JBR, just because clearance is super low down there. |
I have the Corksport RSB and it made a very noticeable difference in the corners. Installation was a breeze with another set of hands. I have yet to run into any problems with it. I also put it on the stiffest setting when I installed it. |
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1. The bar feels like it has helped with under-steer. My car is my DD, so I only go out to the canyon roads in Southern California once in a while, so my memory of how the stock RSB felt may be a bit fuzzy. 2. The bar and brackets are a bit bulky. It made things interesting while installing everything, but not really difficult. 3. I took about 20 minutes to install the RSB. Tightening the end-links was a pain, but that's to be expected with any RSB install. 4.Overall, I thought it was a good value. The bar has been solid and I haven't had any issues 5. At the time of purchase, CS had not revised their RSB brackets, so I went this route. If I were to choose today, I probably would have gone with the CS RSB, but I don't regret my choice at all. I bolted the thing in and set it on the stiffest setting and wouldn't really change anything. |
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Then ours is 546 lbs/in. I don't have the number written for sure. |
Unless someone has bench tested the bars, that is all based on torsion and bending equations. Just meaning there will likely be some differences and you can't totally rely on those figures because the bar's shape doesn't perfectly fit those equation's assumptions. That seems especially true of bars with multiple bends, like the rear bar on an MS6. The typical %stiffness increase in bar stiffness from diameter change wasn't even close. |
This is my suspension set up on my car: Corksport Springs Corksport Front lower arm bar Corksport Mid Chassis brace JBarone RSB (the first ones that he made) w/stock endlinks. And a Tanabe front strut tower bar. Everything that I installed on the car made an improvement, except for the Front strut tower bar. It was a waste of money. Don't have any torque steer to speak of, but that's because I have JBarone mounts at all 3 points, and those eliminated it (I had 'em on the car before I completed the suspension mods). Hope this helps you all. Any questions, feel free to PM me or ask me here. |
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Can the Hotchkis numbers be explained? 95% stiffer...1625lbs/in? The lbs/in would indicate 300%, if the 479lbs/in for stock as stated by JBR is accurate. JBR indicates the rate is at 1" of travel, but that still doesn't explain the Hotchkis number completely. |
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It's well established in other threads that you can't compare stiffness values across testing methods. You also can't really compare test values vs. calculated values. If everyone testing a bar also tested a stock bar, and gives their test values for both, you may be able to calculate % over stock for each and have a useful comparison. If everyone gives their stiffness in percentage of stock, and don't make mistakes like "20% vs. 120% stiffer" as we were discussing, and they actually tested a stock bar vs. their own, we again might be able to make comparisons. |
Thanks much for this info. Informative and concise. Not necessarily the most sought after item in the list but thought I'd add that Corksport does make a skid plate for both Speed 3s. I believe completely identical to each other. Corksport Mazdaspeed3 Skid Plate |
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@Spencer@CorkSport; Have you discontinued the CorkSport Lower Front Brace / Front Lower Arm Brace and / or importing the Autoexe Front Lower Arm Brace? . |
You're welcome to use the pic to compare Steeda to RacingBeat! Not a problem! And, THANK YOU for the effort & time you're putting into this, I hadn't realized this is one of the larger, if not the largest, category of parts available for the speeds. |
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That said, what calculations/datalogging have you run on your current suspension that makes you believe a 15-20% difference in RSB stiffness is going to drastically impact the capability of one bar over another for your needs? tl;dr Buy the one you think is the prettiest. You probably aren't going to be able to tell the difference on your commute. |
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http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...ps0lhhr4kz.png They do make sense if you do the calculations for the bar, but it is the bar's rate, at the end link hole, holding 1 side static. Since there is a motion ratio involved, it will reduce the bar's effectiveness, and in roll you get deflection on both sides of the bar... If you want to relate it to body roll, it is most common to express the resistance to roll in terms of lb-in/1° body roll, where it takes motion ratio and track width into account. Otherwise, just the bench rate is great, none of this "lb/in/in body roll". Quote:
Most of the time, you can get a good idea of how much stiffer a simple bar is by looking at the change in diameter. Whiteline has a pretty decent chart showing this, here: http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...psrpculwpy.png If you are changing from solid to hollow, or vice versa, this chart doesn't apply. Like I said, though, it's not 100% accurate anyway. Just a decent means of estimating % change. |
Same shape, design, and materials specs? lol, you know that's where they'll all start to diverge even if they are the same. Whiteline's sway bar is solid, right? All the others are hollow and a couple at 32mm. How do the attachment points get considered in that chart? Wish these companies could be trusted to be accurate, and more forthcoming. It's not a big ask, but apparently "that's just part of modding" like that knucklehead poster above said. What a maroon. |
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