The Ultimate "Will They Fit" Thread - Everything you need to know about wheels, spacers and tires for your MS

[smoogs12]

Gonna be a tight fit to say the least.

Tapa

[dastpe]

Originally Posted by KRNAGE Tell me about it. I'm checking fitment threads as I want to get on the rota grid 18x9.5 wagon so really want to be sure as no one around me has this setup for me to test fit to be 100% Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

can and has been done here in the states. run a 225 with 'natural camber' and a flat roll with a slight pull and grind the tab down and youll be golden.

[ericdebruyn1]

Originally Posted by KRNAGE Tell me about it. I'm checking fitment threads as I want to get on the rota grid 18x9.5 wagon so really want to be sure as no one around me has this setup for me to test fit to be 100% Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

WhAts the offset?

[MS3MYK]

Planning this set up:

17x8 +40 MB Weapons with 235/45 tire
CS springs and Koni yellows.

Would it work out?

Sent from my EVO LTE

[ericdebruyn1]

Originally Posted by MS3MYK Planning this set up: 17x8 +40 MB Weapons with 235/45 tire CS springs and Koni yellows. Would it work out? Sent from my EVO LTE

that wold be sick

[TazFc3s]

Work CR KAI 18x9.5 +22 on 245/40? i figure a roll at least.... i have these on my rx8 and i am thinking about trading it in for a MS3 for the practicality of the wagon... thanks in advance

[smoogs12]

Originally Posted by TazFc3s Work CR KAI 18x9.5 +22 on 245/40? i figure a roll at least.... i have these on my rx8 and i am thinking about trading it in for a MS3 for the practicality of the wagon... thanks in advance

lol

Good luck fitting those. Would take a lot more than "a roll at least" to make it work.

[TazFc3s]

Originally Posted by smoogs12 lol Good luck fitting those. Would take a lot more than "a roll at least" to make it work.

thanks i guess... would it have ridiculous poke?

[dastpe]

Originally Posted by TazFc3s Work CR KAI 18x9.5 +22 on 245/40? i figure a roll at least.... i have these on my rx8 and i am thinking about trading it in for a MS3 for the practicality of the wagon... thanks in advance

get some fender flares if you want to fit those.

[smoogs12]

Originally Posted by TazFc3s thanks i guess... would it have ridiculous poke?

Very much so.

Tapa

[Sid3wayS]

Figured I would ask since you guys know wtf you are talking about, Ive currently got 235/40s wrapped on 18x9.5 +38 rims. Ive got coilovers, 5mm spacers up front and I did a slight roll on the back, they fit great but the tires are a bit stretched, what do you guys suggest would be the widest tire I could fit on there. Id rather not pull the fender but wouldnt be against rolling it more. I basicly want the rim and tire to be even and not stretched.

[TazFc3s]

well if i end up doing the trade ill be selling those wheels lol thanks

[smoogs12]

Originally Posted by Sid3wayS Figured I would ask since you guys know wtf you are talking about, Ive currently got 235/40s wrapped on 18x9.5 +38 rims. Ive got coilovers, 5mm spacers up front and I did a slight roll on the back, they fit great but the tires are a bit stretched, what do you guys suggest would be the widest tire I could fit on there. Id rather not pull the fender but wouldnt be against rolling it more. I basicly want the rim and tire to be even and not stretched.

I feel like 245/40 wouldn't be a problem with what you are saying. How are all your clearances atm?

Tapa

[Sid3wayS]

Originally Posted by smoogs12 I feel like 245/40 wouldn't be a problem with what you are saying. How are all your clearances atm? Tapa

With out the slight fender roll I was scraping the very edge of the tire whenever I would hit a bump. Now after it, I can fit 4 nator heads in the car and only slighty scrape the fender on a large dip/bump, otherwise zero issues. Ive got about 1"1/2 gap between the fender and wheel. And my kw's are super skinny so they still have over an inch of room between wheel and strut when turned all the way.

[smoogs12]

Originally Posted by Sid3wayS With out the slight fender roll I was scraping the very edge of the tire whenever I would hit a bump. Now after it, I can fit 4 nator heads in the car and only slighty scrape the fender on a large dip/bump, otherwise zero issues. Ive got about 1"1/2 gap between the fender and wheel. And my kw's are super skinny so they still have over an inch of room between wheel and strut when turned all the way.

Ok. Because with 245/40 you would gain like .30" of diameter or something like that, as well as loose the stretch. So fender clearance was my main concern. Feel like you would definitely want a flat roll. Are you against running more camber if need be? Not sure what you are at right now but that's another way to go about it.

Also section widths can vary from brand to brand. When you are dealing with fitment like this that's something to keep in mind.

Tapa

[Sid3wayS]

Originally Posted by smoogs12 Ok. Because with 245/40 you would gain like .30" of diameter or something like that, as well as loose the stretch. So fender clearance was my main concern. Feel like you would definitely want a flat roll. Are you against running more camber if need be? Not sure what you are at right now but that's another way to go about it. Also section widths can vary from brand to brand. When you are dealing with fitment like this that's something to keep in mind. Tapa

Im not against it per say but do not want the crazy negative numbers that alot of the extreme guys run. Some slight tucking in I can live with. Im not 100% on what they are at now I have to look up my receipt from when I last had it alighned. By "flat roll" what do you mean? Like roll the fenders even more or in a specific manner?

[smoogs12]

Originally Posted by Sid3wayS Im not against it per say but do not want the crazy negative numbers that alot of the extreme guys run. Some slight tucking in I can live with. Im not 100% on what they are at now I have to look up my receipt from when I last had it alighned. By "flat roll" what do you mean? Like roll the fenders even more or in a specific manner?

Yeah just get the lip as flat as you can.

Tapa

[Sid3wayS]

Thanks for all the help man, I can build motors all day but when it comes to fitment, Im a total fucking newb lol

[dastpe]

Originally Posted by Sid3wayS Thanks for all the help man, I can build motors all day but when it comes to fitment, Im a total fucking newb lol

do you have the bumper tab ground down? a lot of guys think they are rubbing fender when in fact its the bumper tab. you also may want to slightly pull your fenders before your tires do it for you.

[smoogs12]

Originally Posted by Sid3wayS Thanks for all the help man, I can build motors all day but when it comes to fitment, Im a total fucking newb lol

Yep. No problem.

That's my opinion on it. See what @dastpe think about it.

Tapa

[KRNAGE]

Originally Posted by ericdebruyn1 WhAts the offset?

+38

from the aggressive thread, a spacer up front will be required with that offset.

[apawk]

08 MS3 on Eibach PK - I want to get some new rims and i want them to be almost flush with fenders, just a touch inside ~2-3mm or so. I would greatly appreciate any input you guys can give me in order to make this happen. I am currently running 215/45s on my stockers and would like to run a 18x8/8.5 wheel with wider tires. Can anyone help me figure out exactly what size wheels/tires i would need to achieve my goal? I was looking at the XXR line and i like the 527s but +35 is out of the question for the simple fact that i dont want the wheels poking out past the fenders.

Thanks in advance for any input on my dilemma

[dastpe]

18x8 ~+42 with 235/40

[apawk]

Originally Posted by dastpe 18x8 ~+42 with 235/40

Thank you for the response! So around 40 - 42 would be ok? I see several rims that i like with +35 offset but i am afraid of them being bull-frogged.

[Sid3wayS]

Originally Posted by dastpe do you have the bumper tab ground down? a lot of guys think they are rubbing fender when in fact its the bumper tab. you also may want to slightly pull your fenders before your tires do it for you.

Yeah the member who had these rims before me had told me about that and I took off the top portion of them using a dremel. And by pulling you mean now or if I go up in size.

[dastpe]

Originally Posted by Sid3wayS Yeah the member who had these rims before me had told me about that and I took off the top portion of them using a dremel. And by pulling you mean now or if I go up in size.

i would pull now personally, but just slightly. you can tell if you actually NEED a pull by looking to see if there is any paint on your tires and checking for burn marks on the inside of the fender. if either of those is there, get yourself a little pull. make sure to do it right and pull the whole quarter, dont just heat the fender and get that gay looking 3" flare of the fender.

[memoriesmazda]

Was OMW home from class today and one of my stock tires totally exploded at about 25k miles on them. The rest are pretty much bald so i was going to go a head and by new Wheels and tires, From what I've read 18x8.5 44 offset on stock suspension should be fine, but i could use some advice on which tires work well for DD and if i should go 225 or 235. Was looking at these guys
18x8.5 Rota Grid - Hyper Black (5x114.3/e44/73) Wheeldude.com - Professional wheel dealer.

[dastpe]

235/40. tirerack reviews for our cars are your best bet. tires depends way too much on personal preference and goals for the car and price range.

[cchiang89]

Got a question boys. I drive a 2012 Genpu and I'm looking for a winter set up. I've done my research on the forums and I've decided to go with 205/60R16. I know the biggest issue with 16s is clearing the calipers. I have found 16"x6.5" rims and my question is... how much of an impact will the offset have in terms fit? I can get an offset of 40 mm or 45 mm. The guy in this thread R32 GTS-T Wheels, winter test fit! managed to fit his 16s that had an offset of 40. Would 45 be better in terms of clearing the calipers? Or does offset really only impact how flush the tire is with the body of the car.

[naoandlater]

Originally Posted by TazFc3s Work CR KAI 18x9.5 +22 on 245/40? i figure a roll at least.... i have these on my rx8 and i am thinking about trading it in for a MS3 for the practicality of the wagon... thanks in advance

Originally Posted by TazFc3s well if i end up doing the trade ill be selling those wheels lol thanks

Glad you didn't do it because they would poke out like crazy. I just got some CR Kai's from a buddy that were on his old evo. Tried the 17x9 +28 wrapped in 255/40/17 start specs lowered on h&r springs with rears rolled . I also have +17 rims too, which I can't imagine how much more poke there will be...Going to figure if I should keep these things.

[smoogs12]

Originally Posted by naoandlater Glad you didn't do it because they would poke out like crazy. I just got some CR Kai's from a buddy that were on his old evo. Tried the 17x9 +28 wrapped in 255/40/17 start specs lowered on h&r springs with rears rolled . I also have +17 rims too, which I can't imagine how much more poke there will be...Going to figure if I should keep these

Wow...that's bad

Tapa

[ms3daily]

Would 255/40/17 with the enkei rpf1 17x9 with 45mm offset fit on stock suspension for GenPu?

[cabrone]

My friend has a set of nt03s for cheap. They are 17x8 +38. I'd planned on going 17x9 and sticking with stock suspension like I've seen on Goodwin racing. I'm on stock suspension and plan to stay that way. Will it look like a monster truck on my gen 1? Not sure about the tires he has with them yet. Thanks for the reply.

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[smoogs12]

Originally Posted by cabrone My friend has a set of nt03s for cheap. They are 17x8 +38. I'd planned on going 17x9 and sticking with stock suspension like I've seen on Goodwin racing. I'm on stock suspension and plan to stay that way. Will it look like a monster truck on my gen 1? Not sure about the tires he has with them yet. Thanks for the reply. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

225/45 would give the best fitment.
235/45 would give you closest to stock diameter.

You'll want to roll fenders either way though.

Tapa

[franz]

Originally Posted by cchiang89 Got a question boys. I drive a 2012 Genpu and I'm looking for a winter set up. I've done my research on the forums and I've decided to go with 205/60R16. I know the biggest issue with 16s is clearing the calipers. I have found 16"x6.5" rims and my question is... how much of an impact will the offset have in terms fit? I can get an offset of 40 mm or 45 mm. The guy in this thread R32 GTS-T Wheels, winter test fit! managed to fit his 16s that had an offset of 40. Would 45 be better in terms of clearing the calipers? Or does offset really only impact how flush the tire is with the body of the car.

I have a set of 16x7.5" 40mm offset rims for my winter setup. They fit great and I got them cheap on craigslist.

Regarding offset, on the same width rim, lower offset will push the rim farther away from the caliper. You can plug some values into this calculator to see where the rim will sit.

That being said, if I had to do it all again I would get 215/50-17 or 225/50-17. We dont usually have a ton of snow up here so the extra width and less sidewall will be a better all around winter setup than the 16" and 205s.

[Haggis3]

I'm looking for track wheels & tires and am considering 17x8.5 wheels, with 245/45x17 NT-01s.

1. How much of a roll would I need for this?
2. I'm thinking spacers will be required up front: is 3mm enough?
3. Can I go wider (255/40x17?) without a pull?

This is for a 2007 Gen 1.

Edit: realised this question is useless without a wheel offset! Doh! I'll come back with one soon....

Thx

[Bobforapples]

Just got my Speed3 genwon and wondering if this setup would work on stock suspension without a roll.
Motegi Sp-10 18x8 +40 wrapped in KDW 2's 235/40-18.

Thanks for the help.

[apawk]

Originally Posted by Bobforapples Just got my Speed3 genwon and wondering if this setup would work on stock suspension without a roll. Motegi Sp-10 18x8 +40 wrapped in KDW 2's 235/40-18. Thanks for the help.

LOL! I guess i will let you know Wednesday... I ordered the Hyper Black SP10s +40 with 235/40s ... They came in yesterday!!!!! Beautiful rim! I'm on Eibach PK lowered almost an inch. I'm going the trial and error way

BTW: Good choice on rims... i effing love the way they look!!!

Originally Posted by Haggis3 I'm looking for track wheels & tires and am considering 17x8.5 wheels, with 245/45x17 NT-01s. How much of a roll would I need for this? I'm thinking spacers will be required up front: is 3mm enough? Can I go wider (255/40x17?) without a pull? This is for a 2007 Gen 1. Edit: realised this question is useless without a wheel offset! Doh! I'll come back with one soon.... Thx

Really glad you edited this one I was going to have to for no wheel offset

[Haggis3]

Originally Posted by Haggis3 I'm looking for track wheels & tires and am considering 17x8.5 wheels, with 245/45x17 NT-01s. How much of a roll would I need for this? I'm thinking spacers will be required up front: is 3mm enough? Can I go wider (255/40x17?) without a pull? This is for a 2007 Gen 1. Edit: realised this question is useless without a wheel offset! Doh! I'll come back with one soon.... Thx

Trying again....this time with a wheel offset!

So....will a 17x8 ET 45 (Konig Lace) with 245/40R-17 (Kumho Ecsta XS) work with stock suspension?

Will I need a roll & if so how aggressive?

Thx

[anavrinIV]

Originally Posted by Haggis3 Trying again....this time with a wheel offset! So....will a 17x8 ET 45 (Konig Lace) with 245/40R-17 (Kumho Ecsta XS) work with stock suspension? Will I need a roll & if so how aggressive? Thx

If you put konig laces on your car I will find you and murder you. I'm fucking serious, they are ugly ugly wheel on anything.

that size will fit but you'll definitely need at least a roll. And don't do laces.