My review of the FJ S360 Turbo kit

[2.0t03speed]

Where to begin.......
In May/June of 2014 i decided i was a little bored of my GTX2867r the turbo was great and made good power but the power plateaued around 6k. I have a really good relation ship with Matt @ FJ and decided to bug him about a turbo kit. The original idea was to swap my gtx28 to a t3 housing and get some more top end out of it. i say original idea because that all changed when @Captain KR; and my self arrived at FJ.

i want to get this out of the way now the staff at FJ is like no other. Fran,Matt, & Cresto did more for me that weekend than i can possibly thank them for.

Fast forward to August 2014
When we got there we strapped my car down on the dyno as is with the gtx28 it made 414/425. This was on 24psi and a pretty aggressive timing curve. We then put my car on the lift and stripped off my GTX28, manifold, dp, and hot pipe. It was then that the decision was made after Matt pulled the s360 out of the box for 30 seconds that i would be using it instead haha. At the time all that was made was the manifold. Which in turn caused Matt to shofer me to various speed shops to get AN fittings/Line and other random parts to make this work.

The manifold and turbo got mocked up on friday, and i kid you not Cresto and Matt were up ALL night fabbing my Downpipe, dump tube, Undermotor Hot pipe(yes fj had this done in 2014 lol), and my connection to the catback . We left the shop at 3am to get some sleep and when we came back it was all there. All we had to do was finish the install.

The install it self is not a bad process. The manifold does require a little wizardry to get in and you will need a second set of hands to pull the turbo up while bolting it to the manifold but really that's the hardest part.

After we finished the install it was time to get some miles on the car. Everything worked the first time. There was a little creep, but it was easily manageable. We slapped it on the dyno and put down 420whp @ 22psi with a conservative 14* timing map.Boost came on later but it carries all the way till redline. I left it at that because i was 9 hrs away from home and a pussy bahahaha. See the dyno vid at the bottom of this review.

So while all this is great the car made power the exceptional part to me is this. I've had this prototype kit on my car for 12 months and over 10,000 miles, and i haven't had to touch this kit ONCE since the initial install.Not one bolt, Vband, or clamp everything just works. I've run it at boost pressure ranging from 22-32psi on my stock motor and never has the kit given me a single problem. The craftsmanship of this turbo kit is second to none. Cresto even with a pissed off fiance, stayed all night, took his time, and made sure my kit was fabricated right the first time.


TLDR: kit is great heres a dyno vid. FJ went above and beyond for me.

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[2.0t03speed]

Also here is a vdyno from one of my most aggressive timing maps.

[levon.mark]

Will this kit ever be able to bolt on to a speed6?

[2.0t03speed]

Originally Posted by levon.mark Will this kit ever be able to bolt on to a speed6?

One Day. Drive there and let the, test fit it on your 6.

[knocturnal]

Wow that is was a very nice right up. The video was crazy too. Was all of this done on a stock block? How much is this kit?

[levon.mark]

Originally Posted by 2.0t03speed One Day. Drive there and let the, test fit it on your 6.

No way I am driving my car from ALASKA to the East coast LOL, NO THANKS. I volunteer someone else !

[Code Monkey]

Intake is too small.

[King Scumbag]

I installed the whole kit by myself. Holding a 5858 awkwardly placed in one hand and bolting it to the EM at the same time was interesting to say the least.

[Easter Bunny]

Thanks for posting this review. Now if we could only get @Captain KR; to update his build thread.

[aromig]

Originally Posted by 2.0t03speed Also here is a vdyno from one of my most aggressive timing maps.

Holy shit, that makes me fuckin moist.

[2.0t03speed]

Originally Posted by knocturnal Wow that is was a very nice right up. The video was crazy too. Was all of this done on a stock block? How much is this kit?

Yes i am on the stock block & the kit is $3799. FJ Built Big Turbo kit [FJBtk] - $3,799.00 : FJ Performance, Yeah its a SPEED thing!

Originally Posted by Code Monkey Intake is too small.

i know too bad they don't have and 4.5" intakes besides custom.

Originally Posted by King Scumbag I installed the whole kit by myself. Holding a 5858 awkwardly placed in one hand and bolting it to the EM at the same time was interesting to say the least.

yea i wish the s360 was as small as the 5858 hahaha

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny Thanks for posting this review. Now if we could only get @Captain KR; to update his build thread.

lol good luck he is lazy. i'll be up at his car on saturday tho.

[Matt@FJPerformance]

Thanks Ryan for the awesome review!! As far as the speed 6, we are trying to figure out a kit, we know the speed 6 crowd gets left in the dark. The problem is we can never have a speed 6 for an extended period of time. Everyone always says well I'll drop it off for the weekend. To turn out a high quality product, we would need one for an extended period of time. But we are working on it!!!

[King Scumbag]

@dagrimey1; have your build done and be a test 6 right there and it's 10min from your wife's family. Just saying.

[JakeMS3]

Do they sell that turbo manifold by itself? My god that thing is sexy as fuck!

[King Scumbag]

@2.0t03speed; you didn't have any problem with clearance on the dump tube between the block and the axle?

[2.0t03speed]

Originally Posted by King Scumbag @2.0t03speed; you didn't have any problem with clearance on the dump tube between the block and the axle?

Nope my dump tube clears the axle no problem, but then again my dump tube is different than whats in the production kits.

[King Scumbag]

Originally Posted by 2.0t03speed Nope my dump tube clears the axle no problem, but then again my dump tube is different than whats in the production kits.

Yours sits behind the axle, aaand dumps below the charge pipe..dufuq

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[2.0t03speed]

Originally Posted by King Scumbag Yours sits behind the axle, aaand dumps below the charge pipe..dufuq -__-

Yep like i said prototype kit is different haha. my downpipe also doesn't have a flex section in it. Also i don't know if the production kit is like this but my hot pipe is 2 pieces

[King Scumbag]

Originally Posted by 2.0t03speed Yep like i said prototype kit is different haha. my downpipe also doesn't have a flex section in it

I need a prototype dump I guess..

Mine is two pieces as well, 90 before the IC and then the rest to the ouutlet.

My dump tube sits between my block and my axle. Adjust it one way it rattles off the block, adjust it the other way it rattles and rubs into the axle. As well as basically dumps onto the charge pipe..

[2.0t03speed]

Originally Posted by King Scumbag I need a prototype dump I guess..

yours hitting the block ?

[King Scumbag]

Originally Posted by 2.0t03speed yours hitting the block ?

Read my ninja edit lol

[King Scumbag]

[2.0t03speed]

Oh man thats completly different than my routing. did you try wrapping the dump tube and putting it up against the block ?

[2.0t03speed]

Another view of my hot pipe/dump

[King Scumbag]

If I wrap it to much it will be in contact with both. I tried wedging a peice of high temp tubing on the side and against the block but it just vibrates free. Regardless the dump still dumps right into the charge piping. I've tried orienting that dump every way to Sunday and this is the only routing in which it fits.

The axle is about grooved right through the sidewalk of the dump tube at this point.

[Snyeed]

@King Scumbag; have you contacted fj about this problem before now? Has it caused any false knock issues?

[BLKSTIG]

bang bang goes the hammer for clearance

[tastysi2004]

Fanstastico write up Ryan.

[shaneski]

Around 540 and not even 26psi that's mental, . What is the fucker capable of with boost wound up.

[2.0t03speed]

Originally Posted by shaneski Around 540 and not even 26psi that's mental, . What is the fucker capable of with boost wound up.

Matt made 630ish @ 30 psi if i remember right. Also the 1-2-1 Canadian with the ms6 made around 580 i think @ 28 psi. Like i said that was pretty much the most aggressive timing map i ever made.

[King Scumbag]

Originally Posted by Snyeed @King Scumbag; have you contacted fj about this problem before now? Has it caused any false knock issues?

Yes to both of those questions.

[2eatV8everyday]

Beautiful kit and nice numbers, the SC guys over on the Club Lexus forums love the S360/366 for the quicker spool characteristic (3.0L) and price of these turbochargers. A few guys have made 650-700 on 100% E85 with these

[shaneski]

Whats this turbo like when belting it through the gears is it pretty much instant boost like a 5858PTE or 30 frame garret etc?

[2.0t03speed]

Originally Posted by shaneski Whats this turbo like when belting it through the gears is it pretty much instant boost like a 5858PTE or 30 frame garret etc?

this turbo is much larger than those 2 turbos and it's journal bearing. So there is some lag associated with it. For reference this turbo flows 71lb/min and a gt4088r flows 72lb/min

[Matt@FJPerformance]

But it makes the power!!!


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[Ray Danger 2020]

@King Scumbag; That is what mine does as well. When I install my built motor, I think I'm going to change the routing of the dump tube so it's more like Ryan's. And I agree, there's about no way to avoid it either rattling or rubbing on the axle. On the bright side, our axles are stronger than the cast piping...lol.
@levon.mark; The biggest issue with the speed 6 is the intercooler piping. Because of the transfer case (mostly the sheer size of it), the intercooler piping can't be run down around the motor like this. The dump tube will also need something creative done, probably routed back with the downpipe, just to have clearance.
@shaneski; Initial spool is a little laggy, but there's not a whole lot you can really do about that on a turbo frame this size. This turbo maintains wheel speed really well between gears though, for a journal bearing turbo at least, so when banging gears, the lag is nearly negligible.

[levon.mark]

I don't care about the intercooler piping being routed underneath my block lol. I just want more bolt on options to pick from. At this rate, I am better off buying a DC TIG welder and doing everything myself! The only kit that I see that is truly bolt on, is kosmic's kit, which is pretty expensive for what you get.

[Jackis]

Wow, some nice numbers. I remember bout the cams, I am still waiting for detailed response from local. But the very first answer was: all the bolts locations are the same, width is the same, timing should be manually set with the clock timing tool, thats true. I am waiting for part #, ref data and more info.

We are considering now for local russian builds some S200SXE turbos with new style compressor wheel.
From reading the maps and understanding the wheels geometry, they should be lil bigger than 5858, but the price really matters, we can get them for 800bucks!
BorgWarner S200SX-E

Has someone here gone this way?

[Matt@FJPerformance]

No one has yet but it will be something we will be offering soon with our kits. We love our BWs around here! We like the way you think


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[Mazdazilla6]

Not too many people run BW on our cars so it's kind of tough to find info for them. What size oil feed does your kit use and are you using a restrictor at all?